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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27915354 - 08/23/22 03:14 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I use
80g COIR
1C VERM
2C Water

I'd guess?

80g/1C water
650g/8.125C water

Might be a touch dry?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27915392 - 08/23/22 03:46 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Hobbit GDF said:
How much water do you guys use for just coir?
650g coir +  ?h20 = perfect

I usually use verm and don't have any.
So I'm not used to just coir.

Plz & thx




Sorry for another non-specific answer, but I always use Smarts Phucket Bucket - Coir prep.
It is a little more work the first time but then no more measuring and always the perfect hydration. Doesn't matter which coir brand I use. It absorbs what it can and drains the rest. Perfect every time.

Now I break off some eyeballed amount of coir, add some amount of verm or none at all, then dump boiling (or really hot) water on it. Come back when it is cool and use as much as I need. Use the rest later if it still looks and smells good. No problems yet.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27915406 - 08/23/22 04:00 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I always just prep my coir on the dry side since even when I use an exact ratio it can come out different due to inconsistency in coir bricks. I try to go dry then I give it a good mist after spawning. Then wait a day or two and if it needs another mist I will hit it again.
It always beats having to squeeze every handful to field capacity if it ends up too wet.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27915409 - 08/23/22 04:02 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I always use verm.
I'm pretty good at Making my mixes. Just not this one specifically. 
Without verm makes a big difference.
I used 2.6qts of h20 w/ 650g coir + calcium carbonate.
If it's to dry I can fix.

Everybody trying to tell me their way with verm.

I have so many perfect proven recipes in my books, but was lacking this one.

I got 5lbs of millet ready to spawn. Already spawned 15lbs into 5 fruiting bags. That's when I ran out of Vermiculite. I'm out of calcium now too.

Going to have to stock up on all my bag fruiting supplies.
Thx everyone for taking time to try and help.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF] * 1
    #27915414 - 08/23/22 04:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Hobbit GDF said:
I always use verm.
I'm pretty good at Making my mixes. Just not this one specifically. 
Without verm makes a big difference.
I used 2.6qts of h20 w/ 650g coir + calcium carbonate.
If it's to dry I can fix.

Everybody trying to tell me their way with verm.

I have so many perfect proven recipes in my books, but was lacking this one.

I got 5lbs of millet ready to spawn. Already spawned 15lbs into 5 fruiting bags. That's when I ran out of Vermiculite. I'm out of calcium now too.

Going to have to stock up on all my bag fruiting supplies.
Thx everyone for taking time to try and help.



Sorry man. I tried lol. At least I didn't mention verm.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Grind365] * 1
    #27915429 - 08/23/22 04:18 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Out of calcium?

"About 95% of the dry eggshell is calcium carbonate weighing 5.5 grams. The average eggshell contains about . 3% phosphorus and . 3% magnesium and traces of sodium, potassium, zinc, manganese, iron and copper."

:smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Adas]
    #27915450 - 08/23/22 04:39 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Adas said:
Quote:

smalltalk_canceled said:
Looks like the "Hispanica' matured.

Really wondering what it is



It came from ultimately 2 years of work with a captainfuture Hispanica marked print.

Any exotics people weigh in?




This is a Panaeolus. Congrats on mislabeling again :rofl:




are you sure? :P its pinning in a passive box, and the mycelium is quite different to pan bunell at least

its also making stones..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer]
    #27915492 - 08/23/22 05:28 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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YoshiTrainer said:
Out of calcium?

"About 95% of the dry eggshell is calcium carbonate weighing 5.5 grams. The average eggshell contains about . 3% phosphorus and . 3% magnesium and traces of sodium, potassium, zinc, manganese, iron and copper."

:smile:



The problem with egg shells is that those minerals are locked in, unless you use an acidic environment to break them down. They're an ok pH buffer in some hydro systems because of that.  If you just chuck them into your compost, they'll be sitting around for years unless you've got critters that will break them down for you. You've got to crush them to get it small enough for the environment to break them down. Milling them down into a power could work in a slightly acidic substrate, I think.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF] * 1
    #27915501 - 08/23/22 05:34 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Glad you worked it out Hobbit, my friend.

The tek I mentioned doesn't use verm. It works with verm if you have it and want to use it for thirsty varieties.

Not arguing, just wanted to clarify that for anyone else who stumbles on the need for an easy coir prep method. I also use it to prep 50/50 casing before pasteurizing and even sand mixes for some exotics.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27915869 - 08/24/22 12:08 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Anyone have a link to a brush that would work well in cleaning media bottles?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Grind365]
    #27916007 - 08/24/22 05:03 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Grind365 said:
Anyone have a link to a brush that would work well in cleaning media bottles?




Search Amazon for a silicone cleaning brush and either find a single one or a set there that looks good to you


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
    #27916063 - 08/24/22 06:26 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I use 5.5 grams of water to a gram of coir


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nimpo]
    #27916088 - 08/24/22 07:01 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Well I used 2.6qts h20 to 650g coir and when I sqeezed during hour after mix, it was dripping more than I prefer. So next time I will try 2.4qts h20


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF] * 1
    #27916226 - 08/24/22 08:53 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

try

coir weight x 3.5 = water weight in liters

if you're doing 650g to 2.4qts next time i think that is ~3.5x anyway


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27916298 - 08/24/22 09:42 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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smalltalk_canceled said:
are you sure? :P its pinning in a passive box, and the mycelium is quite different to pan bunell at least

its also making stones..




Ask in the ID forum but the myc is pretty normal for Pan cinct or bisporus, same for the rhizos, stem and cap texture. Everything about that screams PAN to me. :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Adas]
    #27916856 - 08/24/22 03:31 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I didn't think that look like a cube either. Seemed like a pan to me too.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27916907 - 08/24/22 04:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

My friend grew some sunflowers this summer, and they’re all currently dry and crispy. They made some nice ~4” diameter heads full of seeds. I don’t think she’d let me have them - I think she wants the seeds - big if she did, do you think you could use that whole head as cube food?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27916913 - 08/24/22 04:10 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I'd bet it could work great. Dried and chopped up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27916957 - 08/24/22 04:38 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Smellyhobbit said:
My friend grew some sunflowers this summer, and they’re all currently dry and crispy. They made some nice ~4” diameter heads full of seeds. I don’t think she’d let me have them - I think she wants the seeds - big if she did, do you think you could use that whole head as cube food?




i might be one of the few active posters around that ventured into crazy land. ive used both pinto beans (didnt work well) and sunflax.
Both kinda sucked ass, but sunflax can be used somewhat normally.

I'd rinse them real hard and add PC time

the problem with them is the fat, we dont normally use grains with almost any amount of fat. its the "carbs" the mycelia eats, afaik
maybe the fibers, but from what ive learned cubes dont eat fat and protein?

correct me if im wrong


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27916968 - 08/24/22 04:46 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

So my pf cakes I noc'ed up on 8/4 with lc 1ml peu per cake sprayed on top well they are about 95% colonized but throwing shrooms! So dunk and roll? Wanted to use H2O tub but will SB if needed.  Thanks 21 days after inoculation with lc


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