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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27858142 - 07/11/22 12:54 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

yup, I was just waiting for all my cakes to finish, then I was going to grind the lot up and put into capsules.
That said I was doing some reading around here (on aborts) and read something about grinding "helping" to reduce potency quicker. Is that true? Is it best to store dried whole (if you're not going to drop the whole lot ASAP :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wildcat1883] * 1
    #27858212 - 07/11/22 05:15 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Wtf dis?






Looks a lot like oyster.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: new2u] * 1
    #27858224 - 07/11/22 05:39 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Yes. You should grind right before use, or as close to as possible. Oxygen is one of the enemies of psilocybin. The more surface area you create, the more your actives can oxidize.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27858297 - 07/11/22 07:26 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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nektar61

tbh dunno, I'm just (mostly) following directions from "The Psilocybin Mushroom Bible" Haze & Mandrake. They advise doing pftek in (mason/jam) jars w/o lids, covering with foil and topping off with autoclave tape, in a cross. Inoculation is a syringe (spore/broth) to the four tape corners.

Regarding the shroom I isolated, from the pix would you say it's a cube?

thnx




If'n you mean this:

 

Looks like it from here, are you ready to try some and find out?




Are these nats? Very cool! I've got some of classics in the water tub now:mushroom2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27858590 - 07/11/22 11:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

It’s blue oyster. First time for me. 
So it supposed to look like that?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: cozmyc]
    #27858651 - 07/11/22 12:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Are these nats? Very cool! I've got some of classics in the water tub now:mushroom2:




The only thing I know about these is I grew them up from a dried cap I got out of a bag my sprog got off of the interwebs. They can't remember how they were described.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27858669 - 07/11/22 12:52 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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What's the point supposed to be of foil on top of jars in the PC? I don't do it and have no issue that I could see it fixing.

I'm wondering if it's one of those things like gypsum...things that Stamits added 20 years ago because it just sounded good but that most TCs don't do now. 




Yes the lids will hold pooling water without a cover.

Some filters may be hygrophobic but if you don't cover polyfil you're gonna have a bad time.




Is this from your experience?

I don't use foil and haven't for some time now, poly or mp tape.
No difference in the resulting jars but I also used foil for many years.




I like to use foil when im not gonna use the jars immediately, so they stay dust free.
I use unmod lids so i think foil helps a bit.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27858678 - 07/11/22 12:58 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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What's the point supposed to be of foil on top of jars in the PC? I don't do it and have no issue that I could see it fixing.

I'm wondering if it's one of those things like gypsum...things that Stamits added 20 years ago because it just sounded good but that most TCs don't do now. 




Yes the lids will hold pooling water without a cover.

Some filters may be hygrophobic but if you don't cover polyfil you're gonna have a bad time.




Is this from your experience?

I don't use foil and haven't for some time now, poly or mp tape.
No difference in the resulting jars but I also used foil for many years.




If you use 2 piece metal lids then they pool any water because the ring on the rim is the tallest part.

Some parts of the cooker or clave may have water dripping down where the steam is condensing during cool down and heat up and this could cause pooling obviously if it falls right on the jars.

Just depends on how the cookie crumbles for ya. I've definitely had soggy poly though and like to use a foil cover.


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contam [Re: sandman420]
    #27858720 - 07/11/22 01:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Is there any hope for this or should I just toss the jar?



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Re: contam [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #27858731 - 07/11/22 01:26 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Oh that’s a goner.


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Re: contam [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #27858759 - 07/11/22 01:42 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Oh that’s a goner.




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Re: contam [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27858921 - 07/11/22 04:16 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Is there any hope for this or should I just toss the jar?






Bacterial contam? I'm new and trying to learn to ID contams. It resembles pics of bacterial contam I've seen.


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Re: contam [Re: Cob]
    #27858933 - 07/11/22 04:29 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

That is 100% not ok lol


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Re: contam [Re: Cob]
    #27858938 - 07/11/22 04:32 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Is there any hope for this or should I just toss the jar?






Bacterial contam? I'm new and trying to learn to ID contams. It resembles pics of bacterial contam I've seen.




Yup. Looks like a good one for the garden. Youll have luck there. Sorry mate


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Re: contam [Re: Cob]
    #27859227 - 07/11/22 08:28 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Is there any hope for this or should I just toss the jar?






Bacterial contam? I'm new and trying to learn to ID contams. It resembles pics of bacterial contam I've seen.




The grain looks moldy


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Re: contam [Re: Rotnpins] * 1
    #27859329 - 07/11/22 09:14 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Yeah aside from the moldy grain it looks like a layer of mold on the entire top as well.


If it were only bacteria I would say you could top fruit the jar no problem, but anything with mold is done.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wildcat1883]
    #27859396 - 07/11/22 10:29 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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It’s blue oyster. First time for me. 
So it supposed to look like that?



Yes, it looks perfectly normal.  Oyster mycellium is very aggressive and grows right up the jar walls and onto the lid.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: sandman420] * 1
    #27859444 - 07/12/22 12:14 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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sandman420 said:
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What's the point supposed to be of foil on top of jars in the PC? I don't do it and have no issue that I could see it fixing.

I'm wondering if it's one of those things like gypsum...things that Stamits added 20 years ago because it just sounded good but that most TCs don't do now. 




Yes the lids will hold pooling water without a cover.

Some filters may be hygrophobic but if you don't cover polyfil you're gonna have a bad time.




Is this from your experience?

I don't use foil and haven't for some time now, poly or mp tape.
No difference in the resulting jars but I also used foil for many years.




If you use 2 piece metal lids then they pool any water because the ring on the rim is the tallest part.

Some parts of the cooker or clave may have water dripping down where the steam is condensing during cool down and heat up and this could cause pooling obviously if it falls right on the jars.

Just depends on how the cookie crumbles for ya. I've definitely had soggy poly though and like to use a foil cover.




Interesting observation,  I have totally stopped using foil because I see no difference in the resulting grain but that doesn't mean it's a one size fit all solution.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: Inocuole]
    #27859714 - 07/12/22 08:55 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

So just put nats to agar I've read they grow in conditions similar to cubes anyone have any suggestions of what to be aware of besides the usuAl sterile work and casing? I need to use a casing even if they don't lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion: Bulk Tub: How to progress? [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27859727 - 07/12/22 09:16 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I grow them exactly the same as cubes,  absolutely no difference.


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