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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Changa Alchemist]
    #24191619 - 03/25/17 11:46 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey guys, up until recently I've never had any bacterial problems while working with agar.. none I couldn't fix on my own.

I've recieved quite a few prints I've been trying to germinate and I just can't seem to get them to germinate without ugly bacteria beating them to the punch at the innoc point. I've read that bacterial problems are normally user error, however I only have problems with some of the prints I have.

Any pointers? Tips? I'm fighting to have these cultures and I feel I'm at a dead end. 3 separate agar batches have been a dud. Thanks mushcult.

Oh and %.




If it is loaded with bacteria, it is possible to mix up a batch of agar with some peroxide in the agar. Not sure on mixing ratios, its like antibiotics, a last resort and only used to germinate the spore and get a clean transfer.

I have a couple syringes from NON sponsors that grew cakes, but are loaded with bacteria. Like bacteria blooms 1st and I get small little blotches of mycelium surrounded by bacteria. Luckily I ordered some antibiotics which I am going to use to clean some up soon.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24191654 - 03/25/17 12:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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The best way to germinate spores from syringe is to prep some 1/4 pint grain jars about 1/4 full of grain and inoculate. Then wait for some good growth and snag a colonized grain from the top and drop it on agar 




The "grain petri" works great.





Can I do this with a print if I'm having germination issues? Bacterial print issues?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24191663 - 03/25/17 12:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Peroxide won't do a thing in the agar. You may as well be adding water.
Sandwiching the bacteria has worked for me in the past
You could also try a warm pour

Josex was doing pf plates to germinate stubborn spores. He added spent cofree grounds to the mix which I think is a nice touch.
Honestly tho moab I think you just need a little more patients. That syringe should germ on agar no problems


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24191667 - 03/25/17 12:04 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I'm hopeful I can get some of these PE spores to germinate, been trying on and off for over a year from a swab. I also snagged a small ropey strand to transfer from an over grown plate, a clone from a thick and dense mushroom from a cluster and  put some a wild Texan spores to agar..
  Can't wait to have some nice assortment of cultures :smile:
I also just received a wedge in the mail.. atl#7  let the fun begin.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24191681 - 03/25/17 12:10 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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PinPornProducer said:
The best way to germinate spores from syringe is to prep some 1/4 pint grain jars about 1/4 full of grain and inoculate. Then wait for some good growth and snag a colonized grain from the top and drop it on agar 




The "grain petri" works great.




guess ill give it a whirl.:thumbup:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #24191784 - 03/25/17 12:41 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

where the fuck is inocuole? im beginning to miss his crabby ass :rofl:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24191841 - 03/25/17 01:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Where's Azur?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #24191860 - 03/25/17 01:04 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I have been wondering that as well.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #24191863 - 03/25/17 01:06 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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where the fuck is inocuole? im beginning to miss his crabby ass :rofl:



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Where's Azur?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24191881 - 03/25/17 01:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

SO I just got my CD containing 120 mushroom books in the mail, time to see what is on it LOL.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24191965 - 03/25/17 01:35 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

im guessing thats the same 120 books that floating around on the public trackers right? if not you should upload it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24192013 - 03/25/17 01:49 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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where the fuck is inocuole? im beginning to miss his crabby ass :rofl:



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Where's Azur?




:adventuretime: :elmo:




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #24192257 - 03/25/17 03:10 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

i have found some really cool textbooks on various myc topics over the years, mainly tracking down stuff people are looking for. i found some really great stuff this week, id love to share it most are DRM protected from databases and archives and shit

i removed the drm (duh) but dont want to break any rules by posting them.. id post em on public trackers but i doubt theyd get much interest

there has been some really great stuff published in recent years, very dense reading, but fascinating stuff


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24192438 - 03/25/17 04:21 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Is it normal for spores from a B+ print to have a rusty color instead of black? Regular cubes should have black spores, right? I have it on agar right now, but I can't be sure it's B+ till I fruit it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #24192484 - 03/25/17 04:36 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Hey so I feel like I'm over thinking this :lol:

If I take a jar I believe to be contamed and throw a grain on a petri the bacteria should show correct.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24192486 - 03/25/17 04:36 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

If the petri dish supports the growth of that bacteria yes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24192493 - 03/25/17 04:39 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I know nothing in the field of bacteria. Should I make up multiple dishes to see if something shows?

I feel like putting grain to petri would give endospores a good environment to live idk

Or should I just get that microscope you recommend.


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Tmethyl said:
Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24192496 - 03/25/17 04:40 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

A scope is better.

Not every petri dish media will support or grow every bacteria.

Plate count agar grows a lot of bacteria well but still no where near all bacteria


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24192498 - 03/25/17 04:41 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:rockon: thanks bodhi


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Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy.

Caps McGee said:
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24192576 - 03/25/17 05:19 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I forgot to put foil on my WBS jars in the PC and it got up to 8 psi before I removed it from heat.  Should I let cool, put foil on and start PC cycle up again, or should I just put it back on the heat right now without foil?


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