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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: joze] 2
#27849284 - 07/04/22 03:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Cleaned up the nasty secondary bathroom ive been using for contam substrates capable of fruiting/natalensis/small contams/mild contams.
Dont need it since summer is well started and most actives indoors do well during summer (nats, cubes). Have a AA+ culture that was spent, but now flushed decent amounts 3 times outside. (?)
Drain was clogged from sub felling into.
It was hellish to clean.
Dont get coir in your piping!
Real real pain
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smalltalk_canceled said: Cleaned up the nasty secondary bathroom ive been using for contam substrates capable of fruiting/natalensis/small contams/mild contams.
Dont need it since summer is well started and most actives indoors do well during summer (nats, cubes). Have a AA+ culture that was spent, but now flushed decent amounts 3 times outside. (?)
Drain was clogged from sub felling into.
It was hellish to clean.
Dont get coir in your piping!
Real real pain
That's a good PSA.. I usually rinse my hands and stuff in the sink when working with coir.. I've kinda wondered if this was a bad idea... I'm definitely going to change my procedures a little but to make sure I don't clog up the pipes
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins] 3
#27849314 - 07/04/22 03:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I stabbed the knife down into the watery hole, and like a coir-anus, or a enraged volcano, dirty bacterial coir water and sub pieces floated up. What I saw when I opened the drain piping, was unfit for children. Party molded, partly colonized pice of shit microorganism super party (pins too) inside.
The coir condensed at one point, the block, wet as fuck, thus the coir not able to expand more, pushing against the piping and itself, making it like concrete. That took almost 1 hour to remove, pulling on strands and only able to get loose super small bits sequentially
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This reminds me, I need to clean out the p-trap on my bathroom sink
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smalltalk_canceled said: I stabbed the knife down into the watery hole, and like a coir-anus, or a enraged volcano, dirty bacterial coir water and sub pieces floated up. What I saw when I opened the drain piping, was unfit for children. Party molded, partly colonized pice of shit microorganism super party (pins too) inside.
The coir condensed at one point, the block, wet as fuck, thus the coir not able to expand more, pushing against the piping and itself, making it like concrete. That took almost 1 hour to remove, pulling on strands and only able to get loose super small bits sequentially
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#27849648 - 07/04/22 08:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said: This reminds me, I need to clean out the p-trap on my bathroom sink
me too!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins]
#27849655 - 07/04/22 08:25 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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What vacuum sealer are yāall using?
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smalltalk_canceled said: Cleaned up the nasty secondary bathroom ive been using for contam substrates capable of fruiting/natalensis/small contams/mild contams.
Dont need it since summer is well started and most actives indoors do well during summer (nats, cubes). Have a AA+ culture that was spent, but now flushed decent amounts 3 times outside. (?)
Drain was clogged from sub felling into.
It was hellish to clean.
Dont get coir in your piping!
Real real pain
I learned the hard way of not pouring extra agar down drain. It was the hardest clog I've ever had in my life. Don't do it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cozmyc]
#27850263 - 07/05/22 10:45 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Canāt seem to decide on jars or a mono tub/bulk
How much more does one generally yield in a monotub vs. 12 jars?
Not sure I want to keep buying and dealing with perlite plus Iām gone for 9.5 hours a day and wonāt be able to mist.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron]
#27850266 - 07/05/22 10:48 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Auron said: Canāt seem to decide on jars or a mono tub/bulk
How much more does one generally yield in a monotub vs. 12 jars?
Not sure I want to keep buying and dealing with perlite plus Iām gone for 9.5 hours a day and wonāt be able to mist.
Click the shoebox link in my sig
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Auron said: Canāt seem to decide on jars or a mono tub/bulk
How much more does one generally yield in a monotub vs. 12 jars?
Not sure I want to keep buying and dealing with perlite plus Iām gone for 9.5 hours a day and wonāt be able to mist.
Click the shoebox link in my sig 
if you're talking about pf tek jars, which I'm assuming you are due to the perlite, you should look in to shoeboxes... it's basically a mini-mono tub.. you can use 4- 1/2 pint jars each.. you'll just need to get some coir.. I've gotten it from the local hydroponic store, a pet store (in the reptile section), and Walmart... and I recommend getting a cheese grader to break up the cakes really well (I use one I got from the dollar store)...
If you get your coir to proper field capacity, you should be able to be "hands off" until you see pins, then just crack the lid for added fae, and you probably won't need to mist until after the first flush (check out the proper surface conditions link in my signature)
Another option is to just put the cakes in the shoebox without shredding them and cover them in coir.
Keep in mind that perlite is reusable.. you can either soak it in 1 parts bleach 9 parts water for 20 minutes, or you can put it in the oven.. just Google "how to reuse perlite"
One other option is to do a water tub... just use the forums search function and I'm sure there are a couple good teks..
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 1
#27850373 - 07/05/22 12:14 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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So rotnpins you said you use a cheese grater have you or anyone else just breakup of cakes by hand in a big freezer big than add coir? If so what have you found to work better grater or by hand
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wild_aussie]
#27850444 - 07/05/22 01:01 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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wild_aussie said: So rotnpins you said you use a cheese grater have you or anyone else just breakup of cakes by hand in a big freezer big than add coir? If so what have you found to work better grater or by hand
It would work, but the cheese grader makes it easy to break it up very consistently and very fast.. when I've done it by hand I end up with more chunks or it takes a bit longer to get it broken up really fine. I try and get it broken up really fine so it can be mixed evenly. Either way works tho.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wild_aussie]
#27850507 - 07/05/22 01:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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wild_aussie said: So rotnpins you said you use a cheese grater have you or anyone else just breakup of cakes by hand in a big freezer big than add coir? If so what have you found to work better grater or by hand
I have never used a cheese grater lol I always break them up into tiny pieces by hand
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I like the cheese grater because like rotn already mentioned, it breaks up the cakes nice and small and evenly, it will help it colonize evenly
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First time trying agar and grain. Did pf twice before this. Iām pretty happy with these results. You guys rock.
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san pedro guy said: I like the cheese grater because like rotn already mentioned, it breaks up the cakes nice and small and evenly, it will help it colonize evenly
Here is a shoebox I did one time that was broken up by hand.....you can still get good results by breaking it up by hand lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#27850798 - 07/05/22 05:29 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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So I'm still a noob but I have a few grows and I have noticed something that used to really bother me. When reading teks I noticed the approx times given weren't close to my actual times ei grain jars should be fully colonized in about 10-14 days my experience has been 28-32 days same thing with colonization times of pf jars, agar plates, even lc (mine is at 3 weeks and can just see trails of light cloudiness I hope is clean mycelium). So should I just accept that is how things work in the conditions I'm in since it's so consistent or is there some key component Im missing? I know this is an opinion question and I'd love to here then. Thanks
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wild_aussie]
#27851298 - 07/05/22 10:15 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Newbie with one semi-successful grow. I have a few questions that I hope could be answered here. I've been reading through the different beginner guides but have not found answers I'm looking for. In my first batch ever I had used syringe spores (LI?) into 4 different substrate jars purchased online.. all four of them produced healthy mycelium . I transferred each jar into its own lasagna tray and mixed with Organic mushroom compost and placed in monotub ( after reading some of the monotub teks I think I might have been way off. A friend of mine said to put a inch of water in the bottom of the tub let the lasagna trays float in the water and mist the sides so that they are constantly wet). 2 trays had some success and grew fruits, but developed trich (green mold) after first flush. As it was all going green there was one final burst and I got two ginormous fruits. The other 2 lasagna trays in the other monotub literally did nothing at all. I did the same misting and the same Fanning that I did every day to the first monotub and yet this one literally did nothing at all and never turned white or formed into a cake or produced fruit. Does this happen to people sometimes where even when the growth in a substrate jar looks healthy it doesn't go well when put into its I guess people would call a fruiting chamber? ( sorry still learning all the lingo).
The other issue I recently ran into was I did the same exact procedure when I tried to start a new batch and I inoculated four substrate jars again with a single syringe. One jar immediately exploded with growth and then turned green. A second jar took maybe 2 weeks longer and then it finally started producing mycelium. It is still going strong and is nearing its time to transfer to the monotub, this time I will be using bodhisattva's Tek. However the remaining two jars have not changed even the slightest indicating no signs of mold or mycelian growth in over a month. Did I do somethingwrong? As a somewhat hasty last ditch effort I took another syringe and decided to inoculate one of these last two remaining jars with the entire contents of the syringe. That might have been a huge waste of money and very stupid on my part, again I am a total newbie.
Going forward I think it's going to be important to rely on Spore prints and agar which leads me to my next question. I just want to clarify that I have the right idea here because this isn't totally clear reading through some of these posts. If I make a Spore print from a fresh cap placed on tin foil do I want to store that tin foil sheet in the fridge sealed to preserve it? Or do I immediately put it on agar and keep the agar in a fridge until I want to start the next batch? I'm not looking to inundate myself with hundreds of jars and agar discs floating around my apartment. As some of you have pictures to prove. I just need clarification on the process of obtaining Spore prints in relation to using agar and how to preserve prints for a long time so I can Pace myself and create new mycelium growth when I feel it's appropriate and needed.
Thank you for reading and I appreciate the communities efforts to help one another out. God bless.
Edited by learningabroad (07/05/22 10:18 PM)
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