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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27808409 - 06/06/22 01:28 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Is it possible to wash it really well and then boil it like oats without the soak?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27808473 - 06/06/22 02:43 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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wild_aussie said:
How much agar should I put in gw lc 200 ml someone said 4 grams I made a 3 inch agar plate please help



Lol, you are trying to make SSLC? For SSLC I use .2% so for 200ml that would be .4grams of agar. I think Doctor Mario and a few others go a little lower on the % but I could be mistaken. I use telephone brand agar and .2% does me just fine. Heres a good read SSLC by natedawgnow


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SnakeEyes212] * 1
    #27808480 - 06/06/22 02:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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SnakeEyes212 said:
Hi,

Do I really need a SAB if I inoculate Pf jars with the dry Verm layer + micropore tape and putting them in a sealed incubator, in a clean room that is already of still air?
Thanks!




I promise your room is neither clean nor still of air.  It might feel like it, but it is not when it comes down to a mycology level.  You can have a serviceable still air box for the price of a clear sterilite tub ($4.99 last I checked) and isn't that investment worth drastically increasing your odds of success?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #27808495 - 06/06/22 03:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Mr Piggy said:
Quote:

SnakeEyes212 said:
Hi,

Do I really need a SAB if I inoculate Pf jars with the dry Verm layer + micropore tape and putting them in a sealed incubator, in a clean room that is already of still air?
Thanks!




I promise your room is neither clean nor still of air.  It might feel like it, but it is not when it comes down to a mycology level.  You can have a serviceable still air box for the price of a clear sterilite tub ($4.99 last I checked) and isn't that investment worth drastically increasing your odds of success?




:whathesaid: solid advice... A SAB or flow hood are essential tools in this hobby  imo... it doesn't make sense to not make that $5-10 investment to give you the best possible chance of success... I've only had 1 project that was a complete failure, and it was the only time I've tried working without a SAB.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27808504 - 06/06/22 03:04 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Rotnpins said:
Is it possible to wash it really well and then boil it like oats without the soak?




Yes... Fooman WBS has many fans. Its really a simmer tho. birdseed goes in boiling water... left to sit off the burner for 20 minutes.... 40 minutes.... hours.... depends on who you talk to.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27808518 - 06/06/22 03:15 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

So since you can boil and fry mushrooms without (noticeable) potency loss I assume itโ€™s fine too to heat up blue juice without risking messing things up?

Have 30gr (wet) extracted and thinking of turning it into agar gummies for microdosing ๐Ÿค”


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27808524 - 06/06/22 03:22 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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tedoro said:
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Rotnpins said:
Is it possible to wash it really well and then boil it like oats without the soak?




Yes... Fooman WBS has many fans. Its really a simmer tho. birdseed goes in boiling water... left to sit off the burner for 20 minutes.... 40 minutes.... hours.... depends on who you talk to.




Very helpful. Thank you.. I think that's the tek I'm going to use, except I'm going to merge the fooman tek and the reverse fooman tek and I'm going to rinse both before and after the simmer.

Sounds like rinsing is an important step. so why not do it twice, right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: milkboy]
    #27808537 - 06/06/22 03:34 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Lol appearently I missed the . So .4 not 4 lol thanks


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ChildOfTheMoon]
    #27808564 - 06/06/22 04:11 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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ChildOfTheMoon said:
So since you can boil and fry mushrooms without (noticeable) potency loss I assume itโ€™s fine too to heat up blue juice without risking messing things up?

Have 30gr (wet) extracted and thinking of turning it into agar gummies for microdosing ๐Ÿค”




Yup, gummies from a tea reduction is great. I am still ironing out a process that I love but here are some of the links I read and some of my notes. Search "gummy tek" to find more.

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ReverendMyc said:Gummys
Just realized a way to use my stones. Gonna work on a good stone gummy recipe. bw86's Next gen look promising though I don't plan to work so hard to make it pretty. Thinking simple cube shapes will do fine for me unless I can find a mushroom shaped mold.

ttching8475 - Apple Cider Magic Gummies
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25517601

bw86 - my gummy bear tek
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26313322

bw86 - Next gen gummies
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27222123
Using this one.
Notes:
* Don't set dehydrator over 125f
* Do refrigerate as often as needed to make it easier to remove from molds. They get insanely sticky as they get closer to room temp before dehydrating. Just pop them back in the fridge as often as necessary to get them all on the trays.
* Always use "Clean-A-Screens" so they don't melt through the trays or stick to the Fruit Roll Sheets.


Gummies by milkboy
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27678260





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins] * 1
    #27808572 - 06/06/22 04:24 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Rotnpins said:
Quote:

Mr Piggy said:
Quote:

SnakeEyes212 said:
Hi,

Do I really need a SAB if I inoculate Pf jars with the dry Verm layer + micropore tape and putting them in a sealed incubator, in a clean room that is already of still air?
Thanks!




I promise your room is neither clean nor still of air.  It might feel like it, but it is not when it comes down to a mycology level.  You can have a serviceable still air box for the price of a clear sterilite tub ($4.99 last I checked) and isn't that investment worth drastically increasing your odds of success?




:whathesaid: solid advice... A SAB or flow hood are essential tools in this hobby  imo... it doesn't make sense to not make that $5-10 investment to give you the best possible chance of success... I've only had 1 project that was a complete failure, and it was the only time I've tried working without a SAB.




Um, yeah but unless I'm missing something the whole point of pftek jars is so you don't need a SAB or hood. That's what the dry verm layer is for.

No?  I dunno I never done pftek.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: milkboy]
    #27808596 - 06/06/22 04:59 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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milkboy said:
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wild_aussie said:
How much agar should I put in gw lc 200 ml someone said 4 grams I made a 3 inch agar plate please help



Lol, you are trying to make SSLC? For SSLC I use .2% so for 200ml that would be .4grams of agar. I think Doctor Mario and a few others go a little lower on the % but I could be mistaken. I use telephone brand agar and .2% does me just fine. Heres a good read SSLC by natedawgnow




I do 1g agar per gallon of LC, about 0.02% and it works great.

Just don't forget to mag stir while still hot after PC or you will get a layer of solid agar on the bottom!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420] * 2
    #27808611 - 06/06/22 05:15 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Boil your mix before pcing and that solid puck at the bottom doesnt happen.

I always recommend boiling your agar whether youre making sslc or pouring plates.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #27808626 - 06/06/22 05:25 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I knock pf jars up in open air.. always have.. even when I lived in a dirty shithole


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #27808660 - 06/06/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

:shrug: I guess I just like over complicating things..

But I do think it's helpful for noobs to learn proper SAB and sterile technique while doing PF Tek. That way if/when they make the switch to grain, they'll already have a solid skillset-foundation built


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27808725 - 06/06/22 06:49 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Definitely canโ€™t hurt :thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27808787 - 06/06/22 07:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
Boil your mix before pcing and that solid puck at the bottom doesnt happen.

I always recommend boiling your agar whether youre making sslc or pouring plates.




I never get a puck at the bottom but the myc will colonize the surface and form a puck. I usually just wait until that happens, shake it up and call it good.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mind.at.large] * 1
    #27808965 - 06/06/22 09:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Who here has removed the vent tube on their all American sterilizers? Iโ€™m doing a whole overhaul thing on mine and trying to decide if I should just remove it finally




I have multiple 75x's, tried both, and both approaches will work.

Also, here's this, you might find it helpful.

It's been quite a while since I read it but if memory serves Bod and LotKid got into a little back and forth about this very thing.

:cheers:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion *DELETED* [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #27809052 - 06/06/22 10:47 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #27809090 - 06/06/22 11:40 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Could it be that maybe you are hiding the thread?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Healing Oakland]
    #27809105 - 06/07/22 12:01 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Healing Oakland said:
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mind.at.large said:
Who here has removed the vent tube on their all American sterilizers? Iโ€™m doing a whole overhaul thing on mine and trying to decide if I should just remove it finally




I have multiple 75x's, tried both, and both approaches will work.

Also, here's this, you might find it helpful.

It's been quite a while since I read it but if memory serves Bod and LotKid got into a little back and forth about this very thing.

:cheers:



Thanks!! I've got 2 so I think I'll take one off and then run a cycle and see if it makes any difference, even though I'm pretty positive it won't. Seems like it's just something to get in the way. I just replaced the plugs and gauges on them and gave them a decent cleaning so it will be interesting to see how they run now


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