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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27804127 - 06/03/22 12:10 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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You mean like these ones, from da circus?

maybe hire a clown to do it too... fill up the board
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smalltalk_canceled said: Like meat, you have to cut som coir blocks the right way. You have to sort of cut alongside the "sinew", rather than trying to cut it in two. Ill stick a knife inside the block, and tear off thin slides of it as i gradually fill coir into the hot water. If I do it the wrong way, it resists me and its incredibly tough. If I cut correctly, it just comes off with little resistance.
Last batch of coir was from NL and it was very easy to work with.
I'm totes trying the mallet today.
But the 'cutting the right way' is totally true. I take a 5k brick and stick a screwdriver or chefs knife to shave off a third. I find a third (a piece about 1.25" thick by 12x12) easy to then break with my hands. If I get the pieces down to about the size of a mouse, and pour the water on it carefully to get everything wet... I don't need to do a mid-hydration mixup.
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smalltalk_canceled said: You mean like these ones, from da circus?

maybe hire a clown to do it too... fill up the board
Pretty much!
I am the clown.... 
* If you don't dress up and play the grateful dead properly it won't work probably, but you can try.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27804162 - 06/03/22 12:30 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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And actually to be specific it's a hammer like this...
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-lb-neon-orange-dead-blow-hammer-69002.html
But it's actually like 30+ years old from my grandpa, and idk it's not like other mallets I've seen and is all orange like the one in the link. Not sure if that's different then like a wooden handled black rubber mallet or not...
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Well I guess you learn something knew every day sometimes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_blow_hammer
Kinda makes since, this hammer seems to loosen the block compared to denting it like a regular hammer... Hmmmm
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
#27804185 - 06/03/22 12:48 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Wall.E said: This hobby has shown me that you can have strings of bad luck that last for months. Get comfortable with the growing process and move onto exotics if you want sure-fire potency.
Honestly I cant believe I haven't run exotics yet. I have some ATL7 ready for grain now, excited for that.
Couple weeks time I'll be putting pan cyans and subtropicalis to agar. I have a small grow tent and a mist maker, need to see if I can put some use to it.
I have other prints like Bisporus, Alennii, Hispanica, Rancho Agosto and Cambos. Just need to look more into them first.
Do you know if I could run all exotics mentioned in one tent under the same conditions?
Honestly I’ve never had anything perform poorly in a pan type fruiting chamber. I know a few people that have had good luck running a bunch of different exotics in a jcm chamber. I know crack had a mono of tamps that went pretty well. I also fruited semps running them exactly like cubes. 100% coir, no casing and in a shoebox
Good stuff, thanks my dude.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27804201 - 06/03/22 01:02 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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tedoro said: Bandsaws are horrible for coir. Unless you hate your bandsaw. Don't do it. Rocks happen. Huge screwdriver for the win.
Rocks happen as often as inclusions in wood.
nope.
Yep. Quit buying the cheapest coir. As far as inclusions in wood, you should see what gets cut through when milling. If you've ever milled logs using a band you know exactly the kind of abuse they can take.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
#27804210 - 06/03/22 01:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Can you ferment a log, and then put said log to a tub of coir and grainspawn, and then expect the log to be colonized?
I have recently made two attempts to do this, one with shitake grainspawn to multiple logs in a large shoebox, and one with lots of serbica grainspawn surrounding a fermented log, then topped with coir outside.
Im expecting the log to be the contam factor here, but does anyone have some thoughts on why this will work/not work or why we dont do it like this
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy] 1
#27804211 - 06/03/22 01:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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tedoro said: Bandsaws are horrible for coir. Unless you hate your bandsaw. Don't do it. Rocks happen. Huge screwdriver for the win.
Rocks happen as often as inclusions in wood.
nope.
Yep. Quit buying the cheapest coir. As far as inclusions in wood, you should see what gets cut through when milling. If you've ever milled logs using a band you know exactly the kind of abuse they can take.
I'm a woodworker by trade. I run mills, design furniture. Zero blades enjoy rocks. No one here is cutting coir with a woodmizer. I sliced a few coir blocks on a bandsaw and deadened my blade immediately.
When I learned the technique others are describing here of cracking them open along the "grain" everything got easier.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27804216 - 06/03/22 01:12 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I use a kitchen knife.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro] 1
#27804218 - 06/03/22 01:14 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Im sensing we are about to start a fight here cause all the flags of a shroomery dispute is visible but to me it seems gruesome, grotesque and primitive to beat at the coir with a huge hammer only dressed in loincloth and a viking helmet thinking you are some kind of
coir conan,
rather than just through senses-feel and experience-know just softly dislodge the fibers from each other, without having to become a paladin and own a warhammer
but everyone has their taste i guess
oh and of course you dont cut into stones with metal blades, its not a video game
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] 2
#27804224 - 06/03/22 01:18 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Does anybody use a flowhood while there’s a fan or ac running in the room?? That’s gotta be ok right??
It’s getting too hot to work now, I’ve got mine in a bedroom with a window ac unit and the hood is across the room with the back facing the ac unit.
It depends on the angle of the vents. The flowhood doesnt blow that hard as you know so it doesnt take much to overcome the draft.
Personally I stapled a "wall" of plastic sheeting up to frame off the area around my hood after locating it where the window unit wont blow on it.
best way to coir IME 
much mess such wow wear a n95
put it on as deep as it will cut and rip it and then you can break off cubes and the left over sheet is easy to snap.
bandsaw was surprisingly not as effective as a circular saw.
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Yah, I have neighbors behind my walls. No hammering here.
But I bet Coir Conan Gets more ladies than me. So theres that.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27804228 - 06/03/22 01:21 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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So really weird thing that occasionally happens when I dry my mushrooms. I know they’re supposed to be cracker dry, like be hard and snap in two when you try to break them, not bend.
However no matter how long I put them in the food dehydrator, occasionally there’s a mushroom that just doesn’t get to that point. Instead they turn into some weird dusty carton like texture.
At this point the dehydrator has been on for over 24h (14h on high setting, 10h on low). All my mushrooms are hard as rocks and snap in two, but one of them is bendy and dusty and soft. I shuffle them around throughout the cycle so it can’t be from being in a bad spot. Any tips? Is this normal?
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ChildOfTheMoon said: So really weird thing that occasionally happens when I dry my mushrooms. I know they’re supposed to be cracker dry, like be hard and snap in two when you try to break them, not bend.
However no matter how long I put them in the food dehydrator, occasionally there’s a mushroom that just doesn’t get to that point. Instead they turn into some weird dusty carton like texture.
At this point the dehydrator has been on for over 24h (14h on high setting, 10h on low). All my mushrooms are hard as rocks and snap in two, but one of them is bendy and dusty and soft. I shuffle them around throughout the cycle so it can’t be from being in a bad spot. Any tips? Is this normal?
I could see that drying with more time. My dehydrator when stuffed doesn't get as hot, so areas in the load dry slower. Many times it takes well longer than 24 hrs.
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Do you have a picture?
Sounds like it's not dry yet. Fatties or dense fruits can take more than a day in the dehydrator especially if the RH where you live is very high.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 1
#27804238 - 06/03/22 01:34 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome] 2
#27804248 - 06/03/22 01:42 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Does anybody use a flowhood while there’s a fan or ac running in the room?? That’s gotta be ok right??
It’s getting too hot to work now, I’ve got mine in a bedroom with a window ac unit and the hood is across the room with the back facing the ac unit.
I have a "custom" hepa fan hood so this might not be relevant. I use mine with the back facing the AC vent and it doesn't seem to cause problems. I also run mine in the dinig/living room so it is probably a larger space than your bedroom, maybe a difference? Try it with a clean jar and let it sit for a week if needed.
I used to turn my AC off. After a couple hours of that in summer, I had lots of angry people.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27804259 - 06/03/22 01:57 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Does anybody use a flowhood while there’s a fan or ac running in the room?? That’s gotta be ok right??
It’s getting too hot to work now, I’ve got mine in a bedroom with a window ac unit and the hood is across the room with the back facing the ac unit.
Idk about a fan but I had a window ac unit in my old “lab” I just blew it not towards me.
Now I got central air. There’s a floor vent right next to my flowhood where I work. I haven’t had any problems
I don’t think you will either bro
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wild_aussie]
#27804300 - 06/03/22 02:33 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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wild_aussie said: So these are my first grain jars has been 7 days and this is how they look. Sorry about the horrible pics I'm working on that now


Got lost in argument about cutting coir so reposted sorry all.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wild_aussie]
#27804302 - 06/03/22 02:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Looks good from what I can see Myc reaching down towards that food. Give it another week and shake it
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