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hazyhorse
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: shinear]
#27775675 - 05/13/22 02:03 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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you can definitely mist to keep up surface conditions if it gets too dry, which you should be doing anyways. i think some people will bottom water their subs if the flush looks like it’s coming in really heavy but i don’t bottom water much so i can’t really give direct advice. it’s probably best to just make sure your coir is at a good field capacity from the get go. i wouldn’t spawn them on the dry side
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: shinear]
#27775676 - 05/13/22 02:03 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yup, or reduce air exchange if tubs dries out too fast
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: shinear]
#27775680 - 05/13/22 02:06 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Important, non spammy message:
About to start the work on writing up and publishing the Miraculix thread
where I will be doing a miraculix test on: P fimetaria and P natalensis
with both mycelium and fruits being possible
Post is planned to in general explain how I did a miraculix test for the first time and how it works, pictures for sure, maybe video.
For those of you who havent heard of miraculix
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bobbins]
#27775684 - 05/13/22 02:10 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Bobbins said:
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tedoro said: 1) Varying the thickness of my coir top layer significantly effected the pinset. Not just delaying it. I had to find a thickness that worked with my strain and spawn ratio.
This is very interesting, care to share your findings with regards to the relationship?
I feel like this is genetics dependent. But with my golden teacher, I kept moving my spawn ratio weaker and weaker... settling on 2.75 actual quarts of birdseed to 700g of coir. When I went weaker than that... I struggled to get a strong pinset from my isolate. Then I ran tubs with no top layer, a 1/4" (just covered) 3/4" and 1.5" - I found the 1/4" top layer applied at spawn to consistently trigger a strong even pinset compared to the others. I also like the "just covered" because I can get an even layer by using the birdseed as an indicator. Slow sprinkle until I can't see it.
I actually am thinking of running less spawn, because my pinsets are almost too tight. Making smaller fruit.
The real test would be running three spawn ratios... then three top layer variations on each of those.
My main shock was how much these tweaks affected the yield. Lots.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27775722 - 05/13/22 02:59 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
tedoro said:
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Bobbins said:
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tedoro said: 1) Varying the thickness of my coir top layer significantly effected the pinset. Not just delaying it. I had to find a thickness that worked with my strain and spawn ratio.
This is very interesting, care to share your findings with regards to the relationship?
I feel like this is genetics dependent. But with my golden teacher, I kept moving my spawn ratio weaker and weaker... settling on 2.75 actual quarts of birdseed to 700g of coir. When I went weaker than that... I struggled to get a strong pinset from my isolate. Then I ran tubs with no top layer, a 1/4" (just covered) 3/4" and 1.5" - I found the 1/4" top layer applied at spawn to consistently trigger a strong even pinset compared to the others. I also like the "just covered" because I can get an even layer by using the birdseed as an indicator. Slow sprinkle until I can't see it.
I actually am thinking of running less spawn, because my pinsets are almost too tight. Making smaller fruit.
The real test would be running three spawn ratios... then three top layer variations on each of those.
My main shock was how much these tweaks affected the yield. Lots.
This is interesting, I think the amount of sub used may be limiting the fruit size potential due to an insufficient water reserve?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bobbins]
#27775727 - 05/13/22 03:04 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I thought that too.... but this is the first flush... the sub is heavy with 4.5q's of water, not counting the water in the spawn. I've had large second flushes on quite light subs... so go figure.
Honestly, I'm battling heat. I'll not pay attention for a day and come back to a sub that registers 79f with my laser thermometer. That makes some flushes wonky right there.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27775732 - 05/13/22 03:06 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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My previous post contained mycogone.
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I need some advice on my Pinset coming in on this tub of Hillbilly. This is my 3rd grow and I have been studying the posts on these forums nonstop to try and get it right, but I’m nervous about these caps on my pins looking a little white.
Info: The spawn to coir/verm is approx 1:5 with 2 of the quarts of sub used as pseudo-casing p9 style. Spawned in a 15qt sterilite inside a 64qt ez-dial/Pasty mono.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#27775931 - 05/13/22 05:50 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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It appears I found my own answer, but that was a tough one to find. FB group had the answer and I confirmed on a post where Pasty called it “remnants of the universal veil”. Phew. Panic over.
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PE with 1/2 inch of casing. Should I let it ride or add more casing?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Atomsplit]
#27776037 - 05/13/22 07:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I add casing a 1/2” at a time so I’d say go for it.. you using peat casing?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Atomsplit]
#27776038 - 05/13/22 07:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I’d hit it again. Looks like it’s not ready to knot up yet.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] 1
#27776044 - 05/13/22 07:44 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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fahtster said: I add casing a 1/2” at a time so I’d say go for it.. you using peat casing?
Yes peat casing.
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A.k.a said: I’d hit it again. Looks like it’s not ready to knot up yet.
Sounds like a plan!
Thanks a lot Faht and Aka! I really want to get some decent PE grows before moving on to other cultures.
(I know I should use a liner) making some Faht locks today or tomorrow!
Appreciate the help!!!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Atomsplit] 1
#27776055 - 05/13/22 07:53 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I love that fahtlock is a household name 🤣😘
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CatsLoveHouseMusic
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: D3_Myc]
#27776157 - 05/13/22 09:40 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Which of these jars would you use as master G2G jar?
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@catslovehousemusic: honestly idk if any of them would make good g2g candidates, i see a lot of subtle signs of bacteria. give ‘em a shake & see how they recover again. if i used any of them, i’d personally say the jar on the right in the first pic
@wildcat: def not myc lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#27776226 - 05/13/22 10:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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As of right now I’m just using them for shoeboxes now. What made you say that? (I have suspicions.)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: D3_Myc]
#27776289 - 05/13/22 11:40 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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D3_Myc said: I love that fahtlock is a household name 🤣😘
Live, Love, Fahtlocs
They’re my go to now.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WellDuYaPunk]
#27776360 - 05/14/22 01:07 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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So I have multiple LC recipes in my notebook, but don’t have a step by step guide to make it. Any help there?
Figure i’ll do LC rather than G2G as my agar game has been on point for awhile, and I fudged G2G twice. I just want to nice tek to follow, and read the comments.
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