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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dendrocopos] * 1
    #27757902 - 04/30/22 05:13 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Currently making an inventory of swabs to begin trading for the first time. How do y’all like to mail and label swabs as well as prints?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WellDuYaPunk]
    #27757914 - 04/30/22 05:22 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I just use a super fine tipped marker and write on the bottom of the swab sleeve what the variety is and the month/year I made the swabs. I'm not sure that it makes any bit of difference but I always try to write on the part of the sleeve where if my ink bled through it wouldn't touch the swabs :shrug: IDK, I also have pretty tiny hand writing so it's easy for me to squeeze it in somewhere. A lot of people tape the sleeve shut and write on the tape. Some people make fancy little sticker labels and stick it on the sleeve. As long as it's labeled I don't think you'll get any complaints...unlabeled spores are a pain in the dick though lol.


Prints I fold up neatly and put into a little 3"x3" (maybe 3"x4"..idk, big enough to hold the print) bag and label on the bag (not the print) what the variety is and date collected.


I have noticed that if you tape the swabs to the top side of the letter the swabs get broken in transit less frequently


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27757946 - 04/30/22 05:49 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I started writing “non machinable” on the front too. They were putting the letters in the sorting machine and it was crushing the swabs and then sometimes they make you pay extra postage because if it doesn’t run through the machine it gets counted as a package.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 3
    #27757947 - 04/30/22 05:50 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

You reminded me that I need to get a package sent out to someone so I snapped a couple pics incase you're a visual learner...and because I usually do a horrible job explaining shit and I'm supposed to be studying so I'm looking for anything to keep me out of the books :lol:


<- package with all it's contents. You can also see how I label/package swabs/prints.

<- how I tape everything to the top of the letter before putting into the envelope


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27757958 - 04/30/22 06:01 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC98996/#!po=13.2877

FRUITING-BODY DEVELOPMENT
Developmental Course of Fruiting
Fruiting-body formation is the most complex developmental process in the life cycle of C. cinereus. Fruiting-body development involves a dramatic change of the growth pattern from a relatively regular three-dimensional loose mesh of free, undifferentiated hyphae to a compact multihyphal structure composed of many different cell types that associate with each other in distinct hypha-hypha interactions (335, 337, 338). Fruiting-body formation in Coprinus is a rapid process. From the first sign of fruiting (formation of initials from hyphal knots) to maturation (autolysis of the cap of the mature fruiting body), it takes about 4 to 5 days (263, 277, 344, 353, 450) (Fig. (Fig.7).7). To initiate and continue fruiting-body development, several environmental signals are called for, of which dark and light periods are the most important (see below). Indeed, fruiting-body development is perfectly synchronized to the light-dark rhythm fixed by the normal day-night cycle (21, 40, 184, 203, 277, 350, 351, 353, 476) (Fig. (Fig.7).7). Hyphal knots are formed in the dark (261, 330), and light then induces the formation of globose fruiting-body initials. Within the initials, cellular differentiation begins, but a further light signal is needed to develop primordia with distinctive cellular tissues (21, 184, 203, 277, 350, 351), otherwise the initials will grow into elongated structures with underdeveloped caps (see below), variously called pseudorhizas (32, 56, 60) dark stipes (353, 476) or etiolated stipes (40, 120). Following another dark period, light is needed to complete meiosis within the basidia, while stipe elongation and cap maturation take place in parallel. Meiosis will be finished by midnight, and basidiospore formation and cap opening occur in the early-morning hours. Within a few more hours, the cap will autolyze and the black basidiospores will be released within a brown liquid (283, 286, 353) (for further details of light regulation, see below).




Light” arrows indicate time points where light positively influences a developmental process: the first signal causes the induction of initial formation, the following two induce gill development in the cap and suppress the formation of etiolated stipes, which will appear when, instead, cultures are transferred in constant dark. Further on, light will induce premeiotic DNA replication and another signal influences meiosis. For details on karyogamy and meiosis, see the text. Note that changing the light intensities and/or the length of light incubation time might change the length of the intervals for the different developmental steps, especially the course of initial and primordium formation and the length of meiosis

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I think this is the most important aspect of lighting, and ensuring that your room is lit enough I suppose.
Ide love to see some research on lumens and stuff like that, but I don't think it's necessary, but to know how little you could get away with would be nice fore efficiency reasons.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27757978 - 04/30/22 06:21 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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I started writing “non machinable” on the front too. They were putting the letters in the sorting machine and it was crushing the swabs and then sometimes they make you pay extra postage because if it doesn’t run through the machine it gets counted as a package.





I recently received some swabs with one of them fancy 'non-machinable' stamps on it and they were probably the most broken swabs I've ever received :lol:

I mean no disrespect to the person who sent them to me (incase they read this) - they were professionally packaged and are still very much usable, I just received a lot more pieces than were sent lol.

Faht might have the right idea though (big surprise) using the plastic swabs


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27758020 - 04/30/22 07:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I had a recent swab mail come to me as postage due 30 cents. Just one set with a small sticker.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #27758028 - 04/30/22 07:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

That doesn't seem right. Do you remember if it was a forever stamp or not? If it was from me let me know and I'll mail you a few dimes :lol:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27758030 - 04/30/22 07:32 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Nah not from you playboy. Funny thing is that I had some with multiple swabs come through just fine dunno...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #27758076 - 04/30/22 08:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

thanks for clearing it up yea i dont think it'll matter. yield and performance are not as important as just seeing something grow right now.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dendrocopos] * 3
    #27758274 - 05/01/22 12:41 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Benefit Is a serious understatement. They will fruit, but will be seriously wonky.  They "benefit" at earlier stages before fruiting.





Most people seriously underestimate the benefits of light on cubes. Sure they grow without lots of light but not optimally.  Just remember they grow in fields not caves. Fruiting is when I notice the most benefits


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27758623 - 05/01/22 11:35 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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You reminded me that I need to get a package sent out to someone so I snapped a couple pics incase you're a visual learner...and because I usually do a horrible job explaining shit and I'm supposed to be studying so I'm looking for anything to keep me out of the books :lol:


<- package with all it's contents. You can also see how I label/package swabs/prints.

<- how I tape everything to the top of the letter before putting into the envelope




Great! Thank you for the graphics. Is swab breakage a common problem when sending them in envelopes? And do you write a return address ever?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: WellDuYaPunk]
    #27758653 - 05/01/22 12:09 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

If they run through the rollers with one stamp and are wood yes they can break. And the recipient can get postage due charged...



You can always write a fake return address to make things look more legit.  Like that one above. :lol:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #27758688 - 05/01/22 12:36 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Yeah I usually use the Simpsons address as the return. Sometimes Heisenberg from Breaking Bad. I always at least put a fake one on so it looks less suspect


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27758747 - 05/01/22 01:36 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Do you have any liner hacks for me ? That shit is always super awkward for me to do to the point I'd rather harvest side pins and scrub tubs. How do you do it?

This is the best liner job of my life and still a bit shitty :lol:



The shitty holes were done a long time ago dont judge me i dare you.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dendrocopos]
    #27758761 - 05/01/22 01:50 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Do you have any liner hacks for me ? That shit is always super awkward for me to do to the point I'd rather harvest side pins and scrub tubs. How do you do it?

This is the best liner job of my life and still a bit shitty :lol:



The shitty holes were done a long time ago dont judge me i dare you.


i torch a pair of curved-tip hemostats and drag it about 1/2" above the sub, cuts like a hot knife through butter.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27758763 - 05/01/22 01:52 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Good idea with the heat, but might as well use a knife then no?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dendrocopos]
    #27758765 - 05/01/22 01:56 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Good idea with the heat, but might as well use a knife then no?


a knife cuts into the tub, i didn't like that but ymmv.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27758768 - 05/01/22 01:57 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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If they run through the rollers with one stamp and are wood yes they can break. And the recipient can get postage due charged...



You can always write a fake return address to make things look more legit.  Like that one above. :lol:





Yeah, they made me pay 5 bucks to send an envelope with a swab for that very reason.  Just sterilize some qtips like the old days


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead] * 7
    #27758835 - 05/01/22 02:51 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Sorry if this is too mansplainy, but you can keep swabs off the bottom of the letter with some strategic folding of the paper.  This will help keep wooden swabs off the bottom of the envelope, away from sorting machine rollers


Seems to be working out well unless ppl just aren’t telling me they are having to pay extra.

Also, if you want to avoid the broken swab all together, the brand Dukal makes a plastic shafted cotton tipped sterile swab.. reference number 9026.  They’re a little bit more expensive ~$16/100 last time I checked.  I like em.. they’re easy to cut too.

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