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Lobi
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#24167312 - 03/16/17 03:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Unless you have a wild print I think you can pretty much expect uniformity from any MS variety.
Lobi I find my BE is all over the place with MS. I've had 1 dry oz 2 dry oz and everything in between per quart of spawn. What I have found is that mini monos will produce consistantly higher BE than standard tubs. (Thankyou pasty and muda for driving that point home)
Yeah i definitely can attest to the same experiences. I have been doing a lot of smaller sub sizes at higher volume so thats what was preconceived in my mind when i posted. I should have specified. Yeah they are the mvps no doubt.
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Kenetic
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24167354 - 03/16/17 03:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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van hatton said: Okay I don't know what's up anymore.. lol
I'm about to post my step by step sterile work 
I'm doing something wrong. But I cannot figure out what it is.
Agar to agar
Spray soapy water on all sides of sab and towel. Then unwrap petris outside of sab making sure they stay closed. Put gloves on while I'm wearing a long sleeve work shirt. Torch the blade of my xacto all metal #11. Put inside sab lay on rack (blade out) ISO hands this also allows the blade to cool slightly then slowly come back in. Grab the blade cool in agar then take the transfer. Recently I have had my receiving dishes upside no problems yet.
Agar to grain.
Soapy water sab. Etc. Torch the entire blade and while still hot cut the Petri in half (the media) Then scoop under and lift the entire puck up. Take the lid off the recieveing jar that's been wiped with ISO and drop the puck in.
G2g
Soapy water sab etc. Wipe all jars master and recieveing with ISO. Take the master lid off and put it to the side. Then while twisting the master pour into the recieveing jar then recap.
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PC water with my agar . Soapy water sab etc. Wipe entire jar down. Soak hands in ISO and break the seal on the jar. Replace lid. Torch entire blade and cut the Petri in half. Scoop and lift while taking the lid off the recieveing jar and dropping it in. Then the rest is like the g2g minus the twist I do.
What gives? My hands never go over open media/jars/water. I'll probably make a dam video later just so you can visually see what I'm doing. I don't know if it's my grain prep or what my plates seem clean.
I normally don't make long posts because English was my worst subject. If any clarification is needed let me know.
(these are in the order of your post, not necessarily the order of operation.)
1: Just wrap the dishes in the sab. It's easy and pointless to remove the dish first.
2: Lose the long sleeve work shirt. You're only pushing air through the sleeves and potentially into the petris every time you move.
3: Try torching the blade and then some. You don't need to get the handle part red hot, just flame it for a second or two and make sure you get all sides. I don't know what you use but I use a propane torch with a push-button starter (important imo) and have the flame directed away from me and the sab. The flame is on very low. I keep the torch a foot and a half away from my sab as well.
4: I always iso my hands before I flame the scalpel (seems contradictory, keep reading). I just pour some in my hands and rub it around then I wait for about 30 seconds to let it dry for the most part before I flame and when I flame the scalpel I make sure the scalpel is tilted upward, higher than my hand. I also hold the scalpel at the very edge of the handle while flaming. I should mention that before I turn the torch on I already have an iso soaked paper towel in my sab. After I turn the torch on I rub my hands with iso but then after that I just wipe my hands with the paper towel instead for the rest of the session. I wipe my hand down every two or three dishes.
When you g2g what do you do with the lid? you say you set it aside, but where and how? I always carefully put the lid upside down on top of a jar that's in the corner.
I don't know why I said you have too many steps. Poor choice of words maybe? Just ignore it. I'm actually trying to help, not be a future tc or some shit, and I use a sab a lot and rarely ever get contams, so I feel that maybe I have the right to offer some advice.
Maybe I should make some videos, you might be pretty impressed at my technique. The problem is just uploading it lol. Anyway, good luck, hopefully you got something out of it. At least try to flame a little bit of the handle too. You'd be surprised how this matters.
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Edited by Kenetic (03/16/17 03:28 PM)
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kenetic]
#24167643 - 03/16/17 04:33 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wasn't trying to be a dick about bout the steps thing was just confused and would of liked you to elaborate more and you did. 
Anyways imma try a few of those today I have alot of transfers to take.
I never thought about my sleeves doing that and now that I think about it it's pretty dam pointless.
I probably have the same torch you have sounds about right 3 tips in one.
I have been having a bacterial problem and was flipping my recieveing dishes upside down (kinda like pasty plates) my thoughts is that it was the end of the scalpel that had not been torched. I tried the other day to torch a little more of the handle but I did it too long and burned myself. I suppose you just need to heat the outside and not the inside of the metal.
Ive been having the blade point straight up in the flame because if I remember right isopropyl alcohol is much denser then air sometimes my hands are still coated in ISO but not too much.
I wear gloves because I get alot of papers cuts at my job nuff said.
When you mean the lid I assume u mean the master lid. I just put it down in the sab because I plan on using the entire jar. The recieveing lids stay in my hand.
The more videos the better tbh. I got the idea of recording my sessions from you. Thanks for that.
Any advice is greatly appreciated by anyone especially people I look for in the threads that's generally give good advice.
Thanks for giving me the rundown man. 
Crispykoot edited lmao ma bad
I'm gunna try evil mushrooms drying method and try subbing it out for some newspaper.. I have a insane amount that burning it all would take weeks.
For reference..

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Edited by van hatton (03/16/17 10:10 PM)
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Crispykoot
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24168501 - 03/16/17 09:57 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Another tip with grain prep is to use a thermometer and when your pot of grain and water hits 90 Centigrade drain it, then dry it.
I soak my grain so you may need to simmer a bit longer, but when you get above 90C it seems like you pop a lot of grains.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crispykoot]
#24168536 - 03/16/17 10:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I keep mine around 200°f~ (94~°c) I find the burst grains are what tells me when they are hydrated.. I also don't soak. Also loss of the white core to rye will tell me. I don't start counting until I see like 5 burst because of causalities while stirring 
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-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
Edited by van hatton (03/16/17 10:12 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24168560 - 03/16/17 10:17 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I pop a few in my and chew em as I'm cooking them until I get the right consistency
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TheMadHatter420
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PinPornProducer said: I pop a few in my and chew em as I'm cooking them until I get the right consistency
I am so glad I am not the only one who does this. For me it is like cooking and I keep a constant watch on them. Honestly I don't look at a clock, I go by looking at and eating some of the oats. Thumb nail can split an oat nicely to inspect the inside.
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Tiamo
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Of course you aren't the only one. Grains are literally food.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tiamo]
#24169109 - 03/17/17 06:13 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ewww. Gypsum grains...I seriously go by the thermometer and clock and soak so things are very consistant..Popped grains not so much...
So easy..Set and forget on the small burner... Lid on. I stir maybe once. (3/4 to full) 23 qt presto is done in 1 hour.. Everybody has a different approach for sure.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crispykoot]
#24169180 - 03/17/17 07:29 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've broken 3-4 thermometers from doing that I just need to silicone this one section between the wire and the probe itself turns out that's the only part that's not water proof
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24169859 - 03/17/17 12:44 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I've finished filling my BRF jars 2 days ago but there was some leftover mixture of moist BRF/Verm in my kitchen that I forgot to toss away and now it seems like it has grown contaminants (feels sticky and smells like feet). I've tossed it away now but am just afraid this may have ruined my future grows. Should I be worried?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ariel026] 1
#24169867 - 03/17/17 12:46 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're fine
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mushboy
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think of all the spores in nature that blow around, land on you.. inside your house.
just have a good inoculation tek and you will be solid.(sab and clean inoculate)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ariel026] 2
#24169907 - 03/17/17 12:58 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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ariel026 said: Not sure if this is the right place to ask but I've finished filling my BRF jars 2 days ago but there was some leftover mixture of moist BRF/Verm in my kitchen that I forgot to toss away and now it seems like it has grown contaminants (feels sticky and smells like feet). I've tossed it away now but am just afraid this may have ruined my future grows. Should I be worried?
i do all my still air box work inside my dirty and dusty garage. You'll be fine.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mattisfat] 1
#24170776 - 03/17/17 07:03 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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A basic question here. I'm planning to have some monotubs in the same room as my SGFCs, so I'm concerned about running a fan for the monotubs. Should I skip using a fan and do manual fanning of the monotubs?
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Kenetic
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: zajcob]
#24170794 - 03/17/17 07:11 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can safely skip both. You don't need to fan at all.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kenetic]
#24170869 - 03/17/17 07:46 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool, txs. And one other thing is that I've been using natural sunlight for fruiting, and I'm not sure how far fruiting chambers can be from the window with out any significant detriment. Like having a tub all the way across the room from the window. Would the sunlight still provide enough ambient light in that situation, assuming the window isn't tiny and generally lets in a fair amount of light.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: zajcob]
#24170886 - 03/17/17 07:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kenetic
Tried that advice you gave me yesterday and so far all plates are 100℅ clean of bacteria.
Thank so much
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Kenetic
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#24170897 - 03/17/17 07:59 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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give it another day or two and then thank me
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kenetic] 1
#24170932 - 03/17/17 08:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah right I was having a problem with bacteria on transfers and those have been showing in 15~ hours and I have none so you at least solved one problem
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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