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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro] 2
#27700050 - 03/18/22 11:11 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I think the squeeze test is part of the reason my current shoeboxes kept drying out and went to shit. I forget that I have the grip strength of a roid-raging gorilla so I just kept adding more verm to 'get it right' which lead to a substrate that was too dry.
Mistakes were made, lessons were learned. If there's a next time I'll be more careful when preparing the substrate
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bigfootscreepyuncl said: I think the squeeze test is part of the reason my current shoeboxes kept drying out and went to shit. I forget that I have the grip strength of a roid-raging gorilla so I just kept adding more verm to 'get it right' which lead to a substrate that was too dry.
Mistakes were made, lessons were learned. If there's a next time I'll be more careful when preparing the substrate 
Not teaching anyone to suck eggs but if you use the same brand consistently, you’ll get to know how much water you need just by weighing the dry block of coir.
Obviously the gold standard is 5X dry weight, use that as a baseline and adapt from there. I’ve been using the same shit for 18 months, I don’t even do a field test squeeze now because I’m a massive expert and similar sentiments.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SwabMarley]
#27700122 - 03/18/22 12:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I find that soaking coir in excess very hot water and letting it freely drain any excess, a la SmartAttack's Phucket Bucket tek, works every time, all of the time. No measure, no fuss, no matter how little or much I need.
And to add to the sketchy advice, if I hydrate too much coir, I dump the excess in a gasket sterilite tub. I have used pre-hydrated coir up to six months later as good as new. Also, you can add some verm before the water for more thirsty mush like PE and Tamps.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27700140 - 03/18/22 12:39 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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ReverendMyc said: I find that soaking coir in excess very hot water and letting it freely drain any excess, a la SmartAttack's Phucket Bucket tek, works every time, all of the time. No measure, no fuss, no matter how little or much I need.
And to add to the sketchy advice, if I hydrate too much coir, I dump the excess in a gasket sterilite tub. I have used pre-hydrated coir up to six months later as good as new. Also, you can add some verm before the water for more thirsty mush like PE and Tamps.
Edit: speling
Great addition, especially with the gasketed tub. Why would sub go ‘bad’ if it was stored in an hermetically sealed environment? Answer is, it wouldn’t!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SwabMarley] 1
#27700385 - 03/18/22 03:56 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Does this jar look a bit bacterial?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Prakriti] 1
#27700398 - 03/18/22 04:01 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It doesn’t look that bad. Does it recover well from shakes? I have sent way worse to coir before. Spawn that shit in a shoebox if you think it’s sketchy.
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Awesome, thank you. Yeah it recovers well.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Prakriti]
#27700611 - 03/18/22 07:29 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Stupid, somewhat unrelated question, but I figured I’d ask before I go spending money.
I’ve always fan/air dried my fruits, and it’s always kind of tedious and annoying. Sometimes waiting a week for these to dry. If I have bulk it sucks.
Looking for a solution but I’m dirt fucking broke, one of these food dehydrators popped up on Craigslist for $10. Wondering if this is what I’m looking for, and how I’d use it without destroying psilocybin
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You wont be destroying psilocybin unless you're drying them in a furnace. It's good. Get the hottest one you can. The faster it dries, the better. I use 70°C.
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That's what you want, right there. If it works that's an excellent deal! Don't worry about potency loss or anything like that. I run my dehydrator at 145F for 24-36 hours and a lot of people on here run theirs at 160 for just as long. Oxygen exposure is more harmful than the low drying temps - dry them as fast as possible and store in airtight containers
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Gee, I wonder if some of the Psilocin would be preserved if shrooms were freeze dried, anyone has theory/speculation?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#27700908 - 03/19/22 12:31 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Someone on here has freeze dried fruits before but there was no scientific study done at all to determine whether or not it helped preserve Psilocin. They sure did look pretty AF though I think the general consensus is that the cost of the freeze dryer is vastly greater than the minute amount of psilocin degradation. That's certainly my opinion at least
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#27701022 - 03/19/22 04:48 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ya a buddy of mine has a freeze dryer for making hash and his was like 4k usd and could maybe fit like 4oz dry in it. I threw a few grams in when he did a hash run just to see what was up. They came out looking pristine as all hell but no noticeable difference when I ate em. There cool but heat drying is the way to go imo. You could make a way bigger dehydrator capable of drying way more mush for way less then freeze dryers. Would be cool to get some tests done for the hell of it though.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja] 1
#27701174 - 03/19/22 09:33 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Mateja said: Gee, I wonder if some of the Psilocin would be preserved if shrooms were freeze dried, anyone has theory/speculation? 
As others have said, I'm guessing that freeze drying preserves slightly more psilocin/psilocybin than dehydrating. But if you're harvesting and throwing them right into a dehydrator and then storing in an air-tight container, your potency loss will be minimal. I think the biggest concern you should have with potency loss is not drying them enough. If they're not completely dry, they will degrade in storage.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: joze]
#27701385 - 03/19/22 12:58 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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My second attempt at PE after failing my first run.
This time I went for a jiffy casing about 4 days after 100% colonization.
Any red flags on what I'm doing? Looks different than my healthy cube shoeboxes.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Atomsplit] 1
#27701475 - 03/19/22 02:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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How thick is the casing layer.. hard to tell from the pics. Do your plan on adding anymore casing? I usually patch with more casing (thin) as it breaks through the top (until knotting)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#27701502 - 03/19/22 03:15 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Hi Faht & shroomery
Sorry for being unclear. I just applied about a quart of jiffy casing to each shoebox and it measured about a .25- .75 of an inch of casing.
I may have to remove some casing on one shoebox if I'm supposed to only apply a really thin layer.
It's highlighted on the updated the photos.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Atomsplit] 1
#27701534 - 03/19/22 03:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It’s the opposite actually.. PE does really well with a thick 1-1.5” casing layer.. that’s what I meant by patching the already colonized casing layer and putting more on.. keep doing that until knotting starts
It’stedsdead’s casing strategy
Blobbing tends to happen with thin casing layers with standard pe
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster] 1
#27701542 - 03/19/22 03:56 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah that’s looking good so far though.
Prob one more layer and it’ll be knotting.
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