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Inthepit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33] 1
#27657570 - 02/13/22 01:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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flour mill and packing the caps individually they're going to be inconsistent also
Not in my experience. Coffee grinder, 20g powder, 100 caps =.2 per A light dose, just right for the wife, and it interrupted getting drunk at night. ( a marriage saver )
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27657588 - 02/13/22 02:16 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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i dry=swallow mulitple 00s. when I do
just recently went back to tea. don't even powder it, i just do mushboy's tek. works great.
but I do have a 100-cap machine for 00s. I shoot for 0.35g per cap since that's my microdose...you've heard enough about my sick tolerance.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby] 1
#27657660 - 02/13/22 03:23 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Just some guerilla growing idea:
Some device like this: https://www.ebay.de/itm/282584298970
Plus Muda bottles (pure manure/straw, no grains to not attract rodents) grown in jars like these (roughly pint sized): https://www.etivera.com/sturzglas-435ml-weissglas-mdg.-to82-karton-64stk.html
Fill backpack with bottles, then make a hole into the ground somewhere, plug Muda sub into ground, cover it with soil, record GPS coordinates, wait 2-3 weeks. Give away coordinates to fellow near shroomers without growing possibilities. Basically a fresh cube dead drop.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BSUUF2]
#27657697 - 02/13/22 04:09 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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rockyfungus said: Casing hasn't been streamlined in 10 years? Casing isn't new. Casing provides a perfect microclimate to trigger pinning on the surface. PE seems to be a thirsty and without the ability to uptake enough water blobs or aborts.
If casing means no blobs and it's reproducible by anyone trying. Seems like we may have it figured out. That's repeatable data or science. Myc growing in all directions? That's what it does to search for best place to absorb nutrients and genetic info. Maybe pass along some too.
I don't case, I run invitro bottle sub in bags (see last line in my signature (or here for future readers, in case I change my sig) for an example of a successful grow). It's Melmak x Avery's Albino F2 MS, so some shroom are albino (and blobbish), some non albino (and Melmakish). Plain Melmak doesn't seem to blob. Avery's Albino, I've never seen a blob. Maybe blobs can be caused by some weird outcrossing effect?
SWPE blobs, PF Albino didn't blob (?), APE doesn't blob. Now it gets strange, what exactly causes blobbing?...
The thing I've noticed with that Mak x Avery's cross is, it tends to blob more with increased nutrients (grains:coir ratio), which is well known for (SW)PE, so it might be not the blobs = degeneration of (SW)PE thing...
I've had a few Mak tubs blob due to a high spawn:sub ratio.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27605461#27605461
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Drboomer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BSUUF2]
#27657744 - 02/13/22 04:51 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds like a ton of work but it might work. Might just be better off running bags of straw and poo.Dump them and cover on a hefty layer of leaves or such. Joe just build a proper bed if they are endemic to your area, if not find an endemic woodlover and grow that.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#27657780 - 02/13/22 05:27 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Hi, I'm planning to multiply the liquid culture syringe I have into a larger amount of LC. I know it's a straightforward process...just a couple of quick questions:
1. How long do I need to sterilize my jars with the water/sugar solution in the PC for?
2. When the solution has been a success and is ready to be used, do I need to export it into syringes for storage, or can it be left in the jars?
3. Store at room temp or in the fridge?
Thanks
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Crackatoa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley] 2
#27657787 - 02/13/22 05:36 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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1. 20 min 2. I pour from the jar 3. I leave room temp, it'll skim but a stir bar is awesome. Have you tested this other LC on agar?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa] 1
#27657827 - 02/13/22 06:04 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Crackatoa said: 1. 20 min 2. I pour from the jar 3. I leave room temp, it'll skim but a stir bar is awesome. Have you tested this other LC on agar?
Thanks.
When you say you pour from the jar, what do you mean? ...you pour from the LC jar into your grain jars?
I haven't tested, but I've used this LC source with great success so it's high quality
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Crackatoa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley] 1
#27657834 - 02/13/22 06:13 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I open up and pour into my receiving jars. It doesn't take much.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa] 1
#27657911 - 02/13/22 07:25 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I'm waiiing on a wheat delivery...getting a bushel. I have a 300 ml bottle of clean reishi LC that is thicker than snot. becomong a hater of the hassle that any OAT tek is. Want to run that LC on wheat bags.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
#27657944 - 02/13/22 08:02 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Crackatoa said: Yeah, I open up and pour into my receiving jars. It doesn't take much.
I see. Interesting. I assume you're doing this is a stillbox or proper area.
I use a hole in the jar lid with sealant covering it to insert the needle through...it saves me having to do it in a stillbox, etc.
One more question... The recipe I saw for the new liquid culture says to use high fructose corn syrup ....will standard glucose syrup be ok instead? Its all about the "sugar" component I assume as I hear some ppl use honey too
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley] 1
#27657980 - 02/13/22 08:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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All you need is lme and water....
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: E_Dubbya] 2
#27658095 - 02/13/22 10:30 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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It's not much, but it's my first mushrooms so I'm stoked!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MetaSophia]
#27658102 - 02/13/22 10:34 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Congrats on the first mushroom. more to come.
Of course it had to be special and grow upside down. Gotta love mushrooms.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27658124 - 02/13/22 10:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Doctor Mario said:
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BSUUF2 said:
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rockyfungus said: Casing hasn't been streamlined in 10 years? Casing isn't new. Casing provides a perfect microclimate to trigger pinning on the surface. PE seems to be a thirsty and without the ability to uptake enough water blobs or aborts.
If casing means no blobs and it's reproducible by anyone trying. Seems like we may have it figured out. That's repeatable data or science. Myc growing in all directions? That's what it does to search for best place to absorb nutrients and genetic info. Maybe pass along some too.
I don't case, I run invitro bottle sub in bags (see last line in my signature (or here for future readers, in case I change my sig) for an example of a successful grow). It's Melmak x Avery's Albino F2 MS, so some shroom are albino (and blobbish), some non albino (and Melmakish). Plain Melmak doesn't seem to blob. Avery's Albino, I've never seen a blob. Maybe blobs can be caused by some weird outcrossing effect?
SWPE blobs, PF Albino didn't blob (?), APE doesn't blob. Now it gets strange, what exactly causes blobbing?...
The thing I've noticed with that Mak x Avery's cross is, it tends to blob more with increased nutrients (grains:coir ratio), which is well known for (SW)PE, so it might be not the blobs = degeneration of (SW)PE thing...
I've had a few Mak tubs blob due to a high spawn:sub ratio.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27605461#27605461
Beautiful mutants. I'm currently pulling more like these things out, if albino:
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley] 2
#27658216 - 02/14/22 02:19 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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ozbuckley said: I use a hole in the jar lid with sealant covering it to insert the needle through...it saves me having to do it in a stillbox, etc.
You should still use an SAB at the very least.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SwabMarley] 2
#27658557 - 02/14/22 11:48 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Myc Hunt said:
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ozbuckley said: I use a hole in the jar lid with sealant covering it to insert the needle through...it saves me having to do it in a stillbox, etc.
You should still use an SAB at the very least.
You should, but I used to grow almost all of my gourmets that way, open air LC syringe to grain inoculation. The tiny amount of bacteria that MIGHT be introduced is usually no match for the speed of an LC colonization.
And if you steam sterilize the ship before injecting like Faht recently wrote up, there's almost no risk.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Forrester] 1
#27658727 - 02/14/22 01:56 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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ozbuckley said: I use a hole in the jar lid with sealant covering it to insert the needle through...it saves me having to do it in a stillbox, etc.
You should still use an SAB at the very least.
You should, but I used to grow almost all of my gourmets that way, open air LC syringe to grain inoculation. The tiny amount of bacteria that MIGHT be introduced is usually no match for the speed of an LC colonization.
And if you steam sterilize the ship before injecting like Faht recently wrote up, there's almost no risk.
Spawn bag, hot glue gun, isopropyl and a flame sterilized needle worked for me in a few experiments.
First sanitize the injection area with isopropyl, then put a little hot glue on there, keep the hot glue gun turned on an on that spot, so the glue stays molten (melting point for that brand of hot glue is about 80ยฐC, killed any trich), flame sterilize needle, then poke through that spot of molten hot glue, inject LC, pull syringe out, remove hot glue gun. I don't do that anymore, since I consider the step of sucking up LC into syringes another contam vector. If I do LC, it's pouring in front of the flow hood straight into cut open bag and using the LC media bottle in one go.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BSUUF2]
#27658894 - 02/14/22 04:57 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah that's why I really like Faht's new method of steam sterilizing the SHIPs. I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like a great idea.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Forrester]
#27658960 - 02/14/22 05:59 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Do big fat in vitro pins make good clone candidates, or is that just a myth? I recall people theorizing that it meant good genetics, since it seems to be thriving with extremely limited water and FAE, but I'm wondering if people have had good results.
EDIT: I'm referring to a pin that's formed in a quart jar on oats, after the mycelium has fully colonized the spawn material.
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