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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27650829 - 02/08/22 12:08 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

It’s new, like less than a year.


I think it was teds project. Pretty sure it’s toc x swpe


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27650835 - 02/08/22 12:11 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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A.k.a said:
It’s new, like less than a year.


I think it was teds project. Pretty sure it’s toc x swpe




Ohhh, is that the one that was initially named for a certain political figure?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27650837 - 02/08/22 12:11 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

It's Ted


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27651118 - 02/08/22 04:01 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Guys, I'll try out the PF-Tek (just until I get spawn jars) and then I'll go with the shoebox tek after that as my first cultivation, which hopefully will be in a few weeks from now. Just a question: which do you think is the easiest way to get spawn jars? And which is the most secure method?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nerex]
    #27651123 - 02/08/22 04:03 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Phrontist said:
Quote:

A.k.a said:
It’s new, like less than a year.


I think it was teds project. Pretty sure it’s toc x swpe




Ohhh, is that the one that was initially named for a certain political figure?




pretty sure it is.


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Nerex said:
Guys, I'll try out the PF-Tek (just until I get spawn jars) and then I'll go with the shoebox tek after that as my first cultivation, which hopefully will be in a few weeks from now. Just a question: which do you think is the easiest way to get spawn jars? And which is the most secure method?




i don't understand your questions


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
    #27651153 - 02/08/22 04:44 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Nerex said:
Guys, I'll try out the PF-Tek (just until I get spawn jars) and then I'll go with the shoebox tek after that as my first cultivation, which hopefully will be in a few weeks from now. Just a question: which do you think is the easiest way to get spawn jars? And which is the most secure method?




i don't understand your questions




I was just asking which is the easiest way to get colonized jars and which way is the one less risky of contamination.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nerex]
    #27651156 - 02/08/22 04:45 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

PF TEK is tried and true and is very user friendly - easily sourced materials, you don't need a PC to sterilize them and you can inject them with a syringe. If you're just getting started, especially if you only want an Oz or two of mushrooms to snack on here and there that is definitely the route I would suggest to get started.

If you move on to grain spawn (or choose to start there) you will need a PC to sterilize your grains in addition to learning agar (which is actually super easy, and I think is my favorite part of the entire hobby). Agar and grain spawn is capable of producing a lot higher yields, and agar allows you to ensure that your culture is clean.

Both methods are prone to contaminations, but IMO agar and grain spawn is less likely to contaminate since you are the one actually cleaning up the culture. With the BRF TEK you're somewhat at the mercy of how clean or dirty the spore syringe is. With that being said, spores are inherently dirty


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27651187 - 02/08/22 05:03 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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bigfootscreepyuncl said:
PF TEK is tried and true and is very user friendly - easily sourced materials, you don't need a PC to sterilize them and you can inject them with a syringe. If you're just getting started, especially if you only want an Oz or two of mushrooms to snack on here and there that is definitely the route I would suggest to get started.

If you move on to grain spawn (or choose to start there) you will need a PC to sterilize your grains in addition to learning agar (which is actually super easy, and I think is my favorite part of the entire hobby). Agar and grain spawn is capable of producing a lot higher yields, and agar allows you to ensure that your culture is clean.

Both methods are prone to contaminations, but IMO agar and grain spawn is less likely to contaminate since you are the one actually cleaning up the culture. With the BRF TEK you're somewhat at the mercy of how clean or dirty the spore syringe is. With that being said, spores are inherently dirty




Great overview bigfoot, thank you!

I was to ask about inoculate the grain jars with the classic syringe, but I guess the last part of you post answer to that doubt. : )
I still have to look into agar in detail, which I'll do soon. I like the "control" part of it, but for the first run I'll go with the BRF spawn and then use them for showboxes, which I guess gives me an idea of the bulk procedure as well.

I have a question: what are those caps on grain jars I see, with 2 things on the top? Here a picture of what I mean:



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist] * 1
    #27651202 - 02/08/22 05:19 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Phrontist said:
Quote:

A.k.a said:
It’s new, like less than a year.


I think it was teds project. Pretty sure it’s toc x swpe




Ohhh, is that the one that was initially named for a certain political figure?




As far as I know it’s still called Trump Dick because I can only imagine TedsDead still loves people sending him DM’s asking him to change it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nerex]
    #27651204 - 02/08/22 05:23 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Nerex said:
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bigfootscreepyuncl said:
PF TEK is tried and true and is very user friendly - easily sourced materials, you don't need a PC to sterilize them and you can inject them with a syringe. If you're just getting started, especially if you only want an Oz or two of mushrooms to snack on here and there that is definitely the route I would suggest to get started.

If you move on to grain spawn (or choose to start there) you will need a PC to sterilize your grains in addition to learning agar (which is actually super easy, and I think is my favorite part of the entire hobby). Agar and grain spawn is capable of producing a lot higher yields, and agar allows you to ensure that your culture is clean.

Both methods are prone to contaminations, but IMO agar and grain spawn is less likely to contaminate since you are the one actually cleaning up the culture. With the BRF TEK you're somewhat at the mercy of how clean or dirty the spore syringe is. With that being said, spores are inherently dirty




Great overview bigfoot, thank you!

I was to ask about inoculate the grain jars with the classic syringe, but I guess the last part of you post answer to that doubt. : )
I still have to look into agar in detail, which I'll do soon. I like the "control" part of it, but for the first run I'll go with the BRF spawn and then use them for showboxes, which I guess gives me an idea of the bulk procedure as well.

I have a question: what are those caps on grain jars I see, with 2 things on the top? Here a picture of what I mean:







One of those 'things' on the cap is a SHIP (self healing injection port) which allows people to inject their grains with LC without opening the lid, and I believe the other thing is an air filter which allows for gas exchange.

I'm still in the stone age of cult work though - I use polyfil on my lids and still manually open the lids to drop an agar wedge in my grains like a fucking neanderthal :lol:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27651232 - 02/08/22 05:48 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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One of those 'things' on the cap is a SHIP (self healing injection port) which allows people to inject their grains with LC without opening the lid, and I believe the other thing is an air filter which allows for gas exchange.

I'm still in the stone age of cult work though - I use polyfil on my lids and still manually open the lids to drop an agar wedge in my grains like a fucking neanderthal :lol:




One is technically a syringe filter - the red one with the "pipe" sticking up. AFAIK they are used for gas exchange in LC injected jars. I don't think they are typically used for "normal" grain jars.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist] * 1
    #27651369 - 02/08/22 07:20 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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SpaceBaby said:
Have you considered natalensis? people’s pics show practically all stem. and i’m told they are stronger buy a long shot, too.




I'm looking into "Texas Orange Cock" which I'd never heard of before, but saw a picture with very thick stems and relatively small caps. Hard to tell if it's just that pheno or the variety itself, but a generous soul was kind enough to shoot a couple spores my way, and I'll enjoy growing something new even if it doesn't end up being exactly what I need.

I'm also checking out sclerotia. The stones are purported to have more alkaloids by weight, so that would mean less material to get the same effect. The stones also don't produce spores, from my understanding. So if I'm on the right track with my theory about the spores containing most/all of the taste and stomach irritants, they might be perfect. For some reason I'd always assumed that stones required more work than basic cubes, but the teks I've read all seem about as simple as you can get, so I'm excited to get spores of Tampanensis that another generous member said they'd shoot my way.

Additionally, I've been chatting with my brother-in-law (who is a PhD research microbiologist) and someone over in the research forum about various filtration options: centrifuge, Buchner filter, filter bags, filter syringes... so many options. Anyway, he's putting together a sample package from his lab so I can try different methods, pore sizes, and materials to see what works best.

Should be an interesting month or two of trying new stuff, at the very least. Appreciate the reply bud, have a good one!





Im sorry for the confusion. what you got is "texas orange cap" texas orange cock (trump dick) is a cross of texas orange cap and PE. I havent given out spores of the variety yet but am spawning tubs of F8 in the next couple days


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead] * 5
    #27652420 - 02/09/22 02:27 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

One final reminder to the good citizens that Alan completed microscopy of my semilanceata project, and have shared the results, a positive identification of semilanceata:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27517472

Feeling pretty good today


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27652436 - 02/09/22 02:43 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

hell yeah, thats super awesome!  youre killing it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27652440 - 02/09/22 02:45 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hi, I have 10cc's of spore liquid, can I inoculate 20 jars with 0.5cc spore liquid per jar? (2, 1/4cc injections).

Normally 1cc is spread between 4 inniculation holes, each hole getting 1/4th cc spore liquid.

Can I use half? 2, 1/4 cc spore liquid per jar?

Will the mycelium stall or simply grow to fill the entire jar?

Why does stalling occur, shouldn't the mycelium spread and grow until the entire substrate is consumed, as long as proper nutrients are aviable?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ApexIntelligence20]
    #27652443 - 02/09/22 02:48 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hey guys, I waited a bit too long to order vermiculite, have a couple good online options but shipping seems to be 5 days min. Anywhere you guys go specifically to get your vermiculite in person? Gotta go pick up some coir and a few other things today, might just go to ace hardware as they seem to have a bag.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ApexIntelligence20]
    #27652444 - 02/09/22 02:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Half a CC will work fine for 1/2 pint BRF jars in my experience. Just make sure you shake the syringe really good, and make sure your substrate is nice a loose and not compact or too wet. They will colonize just fine.

I have colonized them with just a squirt from a “Josex Poke.”

Stalling happens from poor gas exchange, overly wet or compact substrate, bacteria, cold temps, etc.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27652448 - 02/09/22 02:52 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Whats the minimum Spore liquid I can use per 8oz jar? probably 1/4th cc spore liquid in 1 hole could/would work, but 0.5cc in two holes is probably the best minimum amount.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ApexIntelligence20]
    #27652452 - 02/09/22 02:54 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Theoretically, just two spores. Check out serial dilution. :wink:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: iceNock]
    #27652457 - 02/09/22 02:58 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Hey guys, I waited a bit too long to order vermiculite, have a couple good online options but shipping seems to be 5 days min. Anywhere you guys go specifically to get your vermiculite in person? Gotta go pick up some coir and a few other things today, might just go to ace hardware as they seem to have a bag.



Lowes/Home Depot. Probably similar in price to Ace though


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