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Re: shelf life [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27633763 - 01/26/22 12:19 PM (2 years, 3 days ago)

I have used a LC syringe sitting at room temp for over 1 year with no problem. The answer is that it’s likely longer than that, but I’ve personally never tried.


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Re: shelf life [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27633765 - 01/26/22 12:20 PM (2 years, 3 days ago)

Roger.  Thanks Scrimshaw.


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Re: shelf life [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27633777 - 01/26/22 12:28 PM (2 years, 3 days ago)

I haven't noticed any potency loss from cracker dry, vacuum packed at room temp. My PE is still a 1g face melter from last years harvest :thumbup:


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Re: shelf life [Re: Salty Dog] * 8
    #27633783 - 01/26/22 12:37 PM (2 years, 3 days ago)

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Salty Dog said:
Also is cracker dry and vacuum packed freezer storage best practice for long term after harvest?




I just tried 1.5g of regular cubes that were TEN YEARS old this month.  It was the last of my stash from my first grow ever.  They were stored cracker dry in a mason jar that was not opened much. No vacuum packing, no cold storage, none of that spray can that gets the oxygen out of the jar.

They had absolutely no noticable loss in potency, I got exactly what I expected from a 1.5g dose.

Vacuum packed bags I'm sure are preferable but I don't think you need to fill your freezer with them. Mine sat in a hot garage for several summers.


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Re: shelf life [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #27633794 - 01/26/22 12:47 PM (2 years, 3 days ago)

Fascinating info, Forrester! Thank you for sharing this, I've never heard of anyone eating 10y.o. mushrooms before. Once I gave my friends some Serbica and they ate 1g each and it still blew their brains out after 2.5 years of cracker dry storage. It just works.


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Re: shelf life [Re: Forrester]
    #27633823 - 01/26/22 01:04 PM (2 years, 3 days ago)

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Salty Dog said:
Also is cracker dry and vacuum packed freezer storage best practice for long term after harvest?




I just tried 1.5g of regular cubes that were TEN YEARS old this month.  It was the last of my stash from my first grow ever.  They were stored cracker dry in a mason jar that was not opened much. No vacuum packing, no cold storage, none of that spray can that gets the oxygen out of the jar.

They had absolutely no noticable loss in potency, I got exactly what I expected from a 1.5g dose.

Vacuum packed bags I'm sure are preferable but I don't think you need to fill your freezer with them. Mine sat in a hot garage for several summers.




That's wicked to hear. My cubes from my first grow are still packing the punch they should.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: coversall]
    #27633846 - 01/26/22 01:24 PM (2 years, 3 days ago)

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coversall said:
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Forrester said:
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Salty Dog said:
Also is cracker dry and vacuum packed freezer storage best practice for long term after harvest?




I just tried 1.5g of regular cubes that were TEN YEARS old this month.  It was the last of my stash from my first grow ever.  They were stored cracker dry in a mason jar that was not opened much. No vacuum packing, no cold storage, none of that spray can that gets the oxygen out of the jar.

They had absolutely no noticable loss in potency, I got exactly what I expected from a 1.5g dose.

Vacuum packed bags I'm sure are preferable but I don't think you need to fill your freezer with them. Mine sat in a hot garage for several summers.




That's wicked to hear. My cubes from my first grow are still packing the punch they should.




Thats wicked x2...

Also wanted to change the thread name :grin:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 0ptiquest]
    #27634377 - 01/26/22 08:54 PM (2 years, 2 days ago)

How much LC should I use to spawn a 3lbs. grain bag?  Does using more accelerate the spawn time?


Edited by Salty Dog (01/26/22 08:56 PM)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27634399 - 01/26/22 09:15 PM (2 years, 2 days ago)

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JXAllen said:
Quick question for you guys... I've got my first flush of an APE culture coming in. What am I looking for, for doneness? They've all opened up pretty early, no real veil as far as I can see. I'm planning on waiting for the edges to start curling up. I'm just curious how much I can expect them to grow on this flush? I know larger mushrooms usually show up in later flushes. This is a 6qt shoebox, for scale.




Those look more like Avery's Albino than APE to me, but I'm still working on my first APEs.



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I was thinking the same quirk. Look like either revert apes or mini averys.

The lack of blueing is something to note as well



Hmm... I'm not very familiar with Avery's. Revert, is that because they opened up like regular mushrooms? I was expecting a different shape profile. But, at the same time wasn't sure exactly what to expect. They bruised a nice blue when I harvested, just now. They're small, but heavy for their size!


This is the mushroom the culture was supposed to be taken from.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JXAllen]
    #27634523 - 01/26/22 10:30 PM (2 years, 2 days ago)

Heavy is good, eat some and tell us all aboit it.
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Re: shelf life [Re: Salty Dog] * 1
    #27634529 - 01/26/22 10:34 PM (2 years, 2 days ago)

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Salty Dog said:
Typically how long will a culture syringe last at room temperature?  +- 70F

Also is cracker dry and vacuum packed freezer storage best practice for long term after harvest?




I forgot a full dehydrator that ran for over a week. The fruits were just fine. Didn't seem to loose anything at all. Dry is the key, and the temp doesn't matter so much.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome] * 1
    #27634535 - 01/26/22 10:39 PM (2 years, 2 days ago)

Nice to see you. Hope you are well!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27634639 - 01/27/22 01:57 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

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How much LC should I use to spawn a 3lbs. grain bag?  Does using more accelerate the spawn time?





i try to use as little as possible, 1-2ml for grainbags. trying to aim att the plastic so i disperce the solution.

But when ive used more i have saved a few days.

do you have several bags? try different amounts and see


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: soppos]
    #27634640 - 01/27/22 01:59 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

Imo more lc is always better if your lc is clean.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27634658 - 01/27/22 02:37 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

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This is the mushroom the culture was supposed to be taken from.






It’s fuckin King Kong!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27634722 - 01/27/22 05:26 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

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Imo more lc is always better if your lc is clean.




Agree. I like to use a whole 10ml syringe for 3 jars, my natalensis are fully colonizing in a week when done that way.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Forrester]
    #27634774 - 01/27/22 06:43 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

I just free pour straight from the media bottles into a jar. Probably anywhere from 5-15ml per jar. Never had any issues. Just prep grain on the dryer side if you’re worried.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Forrester]
    #27634946 - 01/27/22 09:16 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

LC is sounding better all the time.

Forrester yer Avatar is lookin good!  :awesomenod:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit] * 1
    #27634986 - 01/27/22 10:01 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

I probably use too much but I've been running 32qt mini monos. 3 quarts of spawn and a top layer gets my subs right up to 3 inches. I make my SSLC jars 100mL. 25mL SSLC gets free poured into each grain jar and I see full colonization in 5-7 days. Shake at 100% colonization and it's fully recovered in another 5-7 days.


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Re: shelf life [Re: Nichrome] * 1
    #27635017 - 01/27/22 10:26 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

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Salty Dog said:
Typically how long will a culture syringe last at room temperature?  +- 70F

Also is cracker dry and vacuum packed freezer storage best practice for long term after harvest?




I forgot a full dehydrator that ran for over a week. The fruits were just fine. Didn't seem to loose anything at all. Dry is the key, and the temp doesn't matter so much.




Nichrome I would add that drying as fast as possible matters. Low temp slow drying is not as good as high temp fast. It really looks like the target is highest temp that doesn’t burn. Or MAX on a dehydrator.


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