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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27607226 - 01/04/22 08:16 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

I don’t really see any pooling water. That discoloration on the other hand does not look good.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27607281 - 01/04/22 09:01 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

The discoloration wicked away on the paper t with the water.  I don't know what to think at this point.  I'm going to let it be and check in on it tomorrow to see how it looks.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27607543 - 01/05/22 03:34 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

I harvested a tub of PE blobs today, my first. I selected some proper PE fruits to clone, and two were white. The softball fruits, were straight up chodes, dense as can be. I hope I can get some canopies that aren't blobby from this work.

I also have some KSSS plates which produced stemless caps. Might me tough to clone considering the spores.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27607668 - 01/05/22 07:01 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

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The discoloration wicked away on the paper t with the water.  I don't know what to think at this point.  I'm going to let it be and check in on it tomorrow to see how it looks.







let it ride. yellowish liquid could be metabolites which mean bacterial. but that doesn't mean FUBAT.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
    #27607678 - 01/05/22 07:18 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

I'm dealing with 35°c temps atm and it's causing all my tubs to dry out and and heavy pin sets are aborting.

Am I pushing shit uphill? Can I cult successfully in these temps? I've tried wetting my coco up more but it dries out. Any tips?

Temps >95f


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Markamello]
    #27607684 - 01/05/22 07:22 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

That is extremely warm and outside the range of optimal growth, let alone comfortable for yourself to be in. Your tubs are probably pushing 100 degrees+ if they are colonizing.

Can you cool your room or move them somewhere? I personally wouldn’t try to cultivate in 95 degree+ temps.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27607686 - 01/05/22 07:27 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

I'd have to run ac 24h/7 to combat it. It's 1am atm and temps are over 80f. Is it futile to cult at these temps? Is dropping the temp my only solution?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Markamello]
    #27607713 - 01/05/22 07:56 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

I wouldn't say futile as I have never tried it but it really will be a struggle at those temps.  You might want to consider waiting until autumn or winter if cooling your grow space isn't an option. I have found that it is much easier to raise the temperature in cold weather as opposed to cooling things in hot weather

Maybe you could build a kind of "Coolgardie Safe" type setup to get temps down in a small grow area and fruit cakes or shoeboxes inside? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolgardie_safe#:~:text=The%20Coolgardie%20safe%20is%20a,heat%20and%20heat%20of%20evaporation).


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mistamonsta]
    #27607762 - 01/05/22 08:40 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

I have had A/C failures three times during our summers since I started. Each time healthy tubs have gone to crap pretty quickly when temps reached 33c/91f for more than a few hours per day day. It may not be impossible, but it will definitely require some kind of adjustments from the usual processes.

If you are in a dry environment, some type of evap cooling might help, with the added benefit of raising rh and fae. Just saw that this is similar to what mistamonsta suggested i n the link.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Markamello]
    #27607883 - 01/05/22 10:51 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

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I'd have to run ac 24h/7 to combat it. It's 1am atm and temps are over 80f. Is it futile to cult at these temps? Is dropping the temp my only solution?



Run the AC.:smoker:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27607888 - 01/05/22 10:55 AM (2 years, 24 days ago)

So I use 75% water by weight when I load up my jars of oats. No prep style. Would the same percentage work for millet or crimped oats?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Markamello]
    #27608245 - 01/05/22 04:44 PM (2 years, 24 days ago)

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I'd have to run ac 24h/7 to combat it. It's 1am atm and temps are over 80f. Is it futile to cult at these temps? Is dropping the temp my only solution?





I quit for a couple months over summer because of this. July-august the low is usually around 90 and it can push 120 daytime.

When it cools off to normal temps at night they can take some very high temperature during the day, but when it never cools down is when I had too much trouble to go on.

The low 80s 24/7 is the limit from what I saw. A few types particularly TOC thrived though.


If you can get the temp down with the ac going constantly the best thing to do is put a shoe box inside a mono. The tub in a tub thing shields it from the constant air movement enough to grow normally.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27608280 - 01/05/22 05:26 PM (2 years, 24 days ago)

I grow monos in a tightly packed closet. The lights and mono's themselves build heat quickly. If the house was 70f.... they would build up to 90f easily with lighting and mycelia heat.

At first blowing the hot air out was a nightmare... scorched substrate surfaces...

Then I realized unmodified tubs don't work in that environment. The new air had to come in somewhere... so it chose some corner of the lid and roared in.

So I carefully looked at the lids (28q underbed sterilite) and blocked the gaping gaps in the corners with strategic hot glue lines. Then made a row of tiny holes at the substrate level to let air in evenly.

Then I used thicker and wetter top layers of coir that resisted scorching.

Only then, could I blast my 800watt AC into the closet. If no lights or biological heat were in there, I bet that closet would be 60f. With my grow I can keep it at 69f. Lots of air moving in there now. I had no idea the effort it takes to cool things down.

Worth it!!! They looooooooove 69f.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27608480 - 01/05/22 10:26 PM (2 years, 23 days ago)

Don't grow mushrooms in a closet.:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat] * 2
    #27608486 - 01/05/22 10:31 PM (2 years, 23 days ago)

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Don't grow mushrooms in a closet.:shrug:




Its not even a closet... its a false wall. super stealth. I had a fire marshal walk by and look at my wall for a good minute. Commercial building. Its this or I can't grow.

And... I'm killing it. Just had to work out the kinks.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27608538 - 01/06/22 12:47 AM (2 years, 23 days ago)

Fair enough. I grew in a closet with a space heater once :rofl:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27608557 - 01/06/22 01:21 AM (2 years, 23 days ago)

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Pasteur’s swan neck flask experiment.

Very cool.




This is the principal behind unmodified lids right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
    #27608578 - 01/06/22 02:29 AM (2 years, 23 days ago)

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So I use 75% water by weight when I load up my jars of oats. No prep style. Would the same percentage work for millet or crimped oats?





I run my no prep millet at 300g millet to 125ml of water. Seems to work perfect for me and I get very quick colonisation.

Edit: So that works out at 41% water to grain. Does oats really take 75%? So for instance 300g oats and 225ml water? Does that sound right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27608698 - 01/06/22 06:07 AM (2 years, 23 days ago)

This is my first time culting through a summer. Do consistent temps over 80f cause the setbacks that I'm facing? It feels like I've got no idea that I'm doing again.

I cook my bags for 5hrs in a 75x and do all work in front of a flow hood. Only 4 weeks ago I was seeing less than 5% contamination and bacteria affect my work.

Im now throwing away more than half my work. The most obvious difference I can see between my contam and bacteria percentage is temp.

To combat it, I've become more meticulous in technique, been more scrutinising of my master jars and increased my pc times but still farming green.

If I'm fighting a losing battle for the next two months, I think packing it up until autumn is the fix.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27608704 - 01/06/22 06:17 AM (2 years, 23 days ago)

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Quote:

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Don't grow mushrooms in a closet.:shrug:




Its not even a closet... its a false wall. super stealth. I had a fire marshal walk by and look at my wall for a good minute. Commercial building. Its this or I can't grow.

And... I'm killing it. Just had to work out the kinks.




Quote:

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Fair enough. I grew in a closet with a space heater once :rofl:




I started off with a small shelf at the top of the closet.



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