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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #27606586 - 01/04/22 10:37 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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A solid mass is a not the best choice for riser I would imagine. That's just more turbulence.

All of my comments on bag were just tips if what you are doing isn't working. I hope I didn't come across as that's the only way because clearly it isn't. Do what works for ya.

Smalltalk: Why did you make cuts into the bag instead of putting in the open top? I've found tape doesn't stick well to wrinkly pc'd bags.




Presealed. Was told I could roll like this by fh seller.

Read all the replies now.
Gonna try 1 and 1 bag, might attempt raising

Is everyone and their mother on shroomery sealing post inoculation? I don't understand how you manage to keep sterility without sealing

I know you tie knots or bend the bags, but I'm still in disbelief.

My presealed bags kept on shelf for 5 days and contamed only after inoculation.

Flow ran for 30 mins beforehand
Sprayed bags, hand, handle, flamed knife, wore mask

Slow boy Smalltalk, thanks for all the answers.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27606598 - 01/04/22 10:48 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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How do I remedy excess water pooling on the substrate?  Is there a quick fix?



Tip that sucker over!

The thing is you need real 100% unicorn bags. I ain't shilling. They are the only thing on the market I believe work. They are going to vacuum seal in the PC so it's sterile.

Here I go shilling again.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27606607 - 01/04/22 10:53 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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Bag gets folded put in PC. Left on shelf forever. Bag gets removed from shelf wiped with iso. Opened in front of hood I dump grain in. Then seal bag.

The bag is sealed and sterile till you open it. No need to seal till inoculated IMHO.



I'll post this till I get sponsored...




How is it sealed without actually sealing it? Even with a tight fold, there's a pathway through air to the grain?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27606611 - 01/04/22 10:54 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Check the next video. Really watch and listen. Vaccum pulls out all the air. It's sealed. They pneumatic press their bags unsealed. Shit's bananas and unicorn poop.

"0.2 micron only opening in proper sealed bag. Smallest observed organism is 0.3.
If it doesn't seal it's still sterile. Just be extra careful unloading and sealing. Alcohol wipe all surfaces. Faulty seals are from faulty gaskets on vessels."

ADHD paraphrasing I think


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rockyfungus] * 2
    #27606653 - 01/04/22 11:27 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Particles in the air can’t really navigate bends.


Idk if it was Pasteur or somebody else who made the flask where it’s open but the neck goes in a loop, and the liquid inside stayed clean.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #27606658 - 01/04/22 11:31 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MysticMycologist]
    #27606665 - 01/04/22 11:35 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

:shocking:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27606702 - 01/04/22 12:16 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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How do I remedy excess water pooling on the substrate?  Is there a quick fix?




Pics would help to get the best answer.

That said, blot with paper towels. Is it from  growing conditions [and metabolites] or did you fuck the field capacity? If the latter, next time add verm to reduce over-hydration of the sub. That's for cubes. For reishi I just leave the pools there.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
    #27606767 - 01/04/22 01:24 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

I'm gunning for a big single harvest of golden teachers in a normal sized mono. Can anyone tell me how they implement bottom watering as the flush comes up?

1) how long can you leave the water in?
2) what amount of water?
3) when is a good time to start/end

I know its very strain dependent... I'd just like to hear some parameters.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27606784 - 01/04/22 01:40 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Ive only heard of people bottom watering varieties that get super chody like melmak or pe, those that dont put up a bunch of pins but more like 10 giants per tub. (but i havent researched a ton) Im guessing it cant hurt to try and boost a normal cube grow test it and let us know!

Id suggest getting a nice pinset topside with good surface conditions up top, then bottom watering once the pins are developing so you dont encourage pinning on the bottom until your initial pinset it up. Just my speculation im sure there are teks


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ababyphoenix]
    #27606794 - 01/04/22 01:56 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

I'd be interested in seeing what you find out from that experiment as well.

On an unrelated note. I created some shoeboxes from shredded up pf tek cakes as I normally do with grains. Mixed up the shredded spawn with CVG leveled it and tamped down the edges then topped with a 1/4-1/2 inch layer of just CVG. Put into fruiting conditions right away.. Normally with my grain spawns this top layer gets colonized before it throws pins but with these two shoeboxes from pf tek cakes the top layer didn't colonize and looks like a true casing layer with pins popping up through it. Is this normal I guess the pf-cakes were in there jars for a while and had already started pinning invitro before I spawned em. These were also in the dark for 8 or 9 days when I left for the holidays and I didn't want to run my lights while I was out. They actually threw out some crazy looking stringy fruits in the total darkness but now the fruits look normal again.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27606797 - 01/04/22 01:57 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

I bottom water all kinds of tubs

1) a few hours 2-4 seems to work pretty well
2)fill until the substrate floats
3)Im not sure what you are asking. I will bottom water right after a flush if the sub shrinks alot.

EDIT. Didnt read your post very well you are trying to water before first flush.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27606847 - 01/04/22 02:46 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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That's a lot of sack if you know what I mean. You got a mega autoclave to have so many bags ready at once for inoc or do you store up?

It's not that much slower to work one at a time since you only are one person. On occasion I will have a stack of 9 bags in the corner of my hood  but I still just pull one off the stack at a time to inoc and seal and then remove from hood before going to next.




:hereyougo:

I get your drift. :wink:

Three 75x's and one 1941. If I feel like a maniac I can have 200-250 bags ready every week.

But yes I sterilize them over a period of days and inoc them over time.

You're correct though, not much slower. I wish I was two people sometimes.



I got like 80 to nocc. One session could easily slam half that then come back for the rest in one long day. The carch is that they will litter the room without planning.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27606952 - 01/04/22 04:13 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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I'm gunning for a big single harvest of golden teachers in a normal sized mono. Can anyone tell me how they implement bottom watering as the flush comes up?

1) how long can you leave the water in?
2) what amount of water?
3) when is a good time to start/end

I know its very strain dependent... I'd just like to hear some parameters.




I don't use liners. So when the substrate pulls away and I can get a syringe down the side I'll give it maybe 10-30cc's water (shoeboxes). I don't really care how soggy it gets down there if it's not touching pins. Haven't worked monos (they shouldn't be watered I thought),but maybe aim for a cm of water at base of sub. Or just some covering surface of sub.

Dump the excess water out maybe 15-20 minutes later. Increase FAE for a bit if needed.

I'll also use a syringe to water right at the base of clusters. Let it pool on surface for 15 or so and then pour off a corner.

The only reason I bottom water is because I'm in a fruiting chamber and it dries out with how arid I am. A mono should not need any watering


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rockyfungus]
    #27606967 - 01/04/22 04:35 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Lots of people bottom water monos, but usually for a few hours.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27607007 - 01/04/22 05:03 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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sandman420 said:
That's a lot of sack if you know what I mean. You got a mega autoclave to have so many bags ready at once for inoc or do you store up?

It's not that much slower to work one at a time since you only are one person. On occasion I will have a stack of 9 bags in the corner of my hood  but I still just pull one off the stack at a time to inoc and seal and then remove from hood before going to next.




:hereyougo:

I get your drift. :wink:

Three 75x's and one 1941. If I feel like a maniac I can have 200-250 bags ready every week.

But yes I sterilize them over a period of days and inoc them over time.

You're correct though, not much slower. I wish I was two people sometimes.



I got like 80 to nocc. One session could easily slam half that then come back for the rest in one long day. The carch is that they will litter the room without planning.




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ababyphoenix]
    #27607117 - 01/04/22 06:54 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

What's your opinion on foggers for controlling RH?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Salty Dog]
    #27607183 - 01/04/22 07:44 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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What's your opinion on foggers for controlling RH?




Non-necessary if you are growing cubes unless you have extremely cold temps.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27607200 - 01/04/22 07:56 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Foggers can be useful if you’re running gourmets in a Martha type setup, but people like macmerdin pasty and baba are proving that you don’t even need a fogger for pans.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
    #27607209 - 01/04/22 08:06 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Here's a pic of the water puddling on the surface.  I was able to wick with the paper t.  Is the discolor normal?



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