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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27581654 - 12/14/21 09:12 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Right I totally neglected these bags, life n shit,



The top of the grain didn’t colonise if you can see, I’m gonna rekon probably bacterial. Now the things have started fruiting a fair bit and I’m wondering what my options could be at this point.

I’m thinking either mix the top layer in to see if it will colonise and spawn, or just open them, case and fruit…I’m thinking spawning might be a waste of time

What’s the general consensus ?

Been busy so these just got put in cupboard and forgotten about.




Filthy made a thread on this awhile back.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26517163

I say spawn it. I've done it many times with no issues.





yep.  just did a bunch like that today.  you can always sheke em  again just to be sure but assuming that youve shaken them already shouldnt be necessary


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27581868 - 12/15/21 03:06 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Has anyone bought a big (e.g. 22+ quart) cheap priced no brand name Pressure Cooker from ebay?

I'm just worried about the safety side of things. It's like 1/4 of the price than what i would pay if i went with a recommended brand name

Its obviously a chinese made - but they probably all are.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley]
    #27581877 - 12/15/21 03:20 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

There is a company in China making a Mirro clone. I have a Mirro, they've been out of business for a few years, but their 22qt works for me. How does the model look?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley]
    #27581890 - 12/15/21 03:36 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

What brand and how much?

I bought all mine second hand and never paid more than $40 for a presto.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 897]
    #27581897 - 12/15/21 03:43 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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There is a company in China making a Mirro clone. I have a Mirro, they've been out of business for a few years, but their 22qt works for me. How does the model look?




it looks like a standard simple pressure cooker.

i found a good brand name one online for 3x the price. might be a better idea to invest in a 5star reviewed one in case the cheap one is bad quality e.g. it could explode, etc.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #27581911 - 12/15/21 04:00 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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This was presented to me as cbk albino and I had a convo with him years ago that he was going to cross ksss and ape then I went to federal prison and when I got out someone shot me that culture ..

But yes muda made the ess .. (rip) but I’m sure someone will know about cbk albino I saw a post last night and it looked just like this one here are some more pics






Just cased this little guy today. Hoping all goes well the lines iffy I didn't like the way the myc looked.

Mudas bottle Tek has been a big inspiration to the way I've been doing things.


16 muda bottles or 24 half pint bottles fit in a 75x.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley] * 1
    #27582286 - 12/15/21 10:22 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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897 said:
There is a company in China making a Mirro clone. I have a Mirro, they've been out of business for a few years, but their 22qt works for me. How does the model look?




it looks like a standard simple pressure cooker.

i found a good brand name one online for 3x the price. might be a better idea to invest in a 5star reviewed one in case the cheap one is bad quality e.g. it could explode, etc.





That's the piece of equipment I wouldn't fuck around with.  It is absolutely worth throwing a hundred bones at a presto 23 just to make sure it's going to work and hold a seal/ not kersplode.  If you're not in Murica™ I can see how sourcing one for a reasonable price would be difficult, but if you're domestic absolutely get the presto instead.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #27582515 - 12/15/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Can one use a presto PC on an electric hotplate? Or does it need to be a gas stovetop?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley] * 2
    #27582538 - 12/15/21 01:22 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Can one use a presto PC on an electric hotplate? Or does it need to be a gas stovetop?




depends on the hotplate

I use this one for my 23qt Cadco PCR-1S Professional Cast Iron Range, Stainless


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley]
    #27582544 - 12/15/21 01:24 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

The only electric burners that work well enough from my experience are cadco brand, just like Camera93 posted


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb]
    #27582561 - 12/15/21 01:40 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I have a cuisinart hot plate that maintains pressure just fine, but it takes awhile to get there


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E] * 1
    #27582581 - 12/15/21 01:51 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Absolutely love my Cadco burner. No problems running my Presto 23qt.

Once you get used to it, it’s also super easy to find a setting that will keep it rocking right at 15psi so you don’t have to sit there and babysit it as much.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27582762 - 12/15/21 04:51 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I've got a Cadco CSR-3t + PID controller for my Presto's but i've yet to get them to work together well. The Cadco works extremely well at heating it up, but cannot get my oats to sterilize properly. Been trying for 6 months to diagnose it with very little luck, my last test batch is looking promising though.

Are youse guys running them for 2 hours at 15 psi as per normal? Normal heating/venting procedure?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #27582785 - 12/15/21 05:14 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

3-3.5hr per load of bags
1.5-2hr per load of jars
Normal venting and everything else

That's interesting you say it isn't getting your oats to sterilize.it shouldn't really matter what the source of heat is as long as it maintains that 15psi or higher, right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb]
    #27582798 - 12/15/21 05:32 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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shouldn't really matter what the source of heat is as long as it maintains that 15psi or higher, right?




That’s what I would think too. I have the exact same model cadco, CSR-3T. On high, it probably takes me 30-45min to get to venting stage, 10 min to vent, another 20-30min to get to 15psi. Then I drop the control to a couple ticks below warm and it maintains for the full 90 min.

I use millet now, but when I was using oats I would do 2 hours. I’m thinking of going up to 2 hours on the millet just to be safe, but as long as the PC is rocking away at 15psi+ I’ve never questioned whether the burner is to blame for a contam.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27582807 - 12/15/21 05:40 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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3-3.5hr per load of bags
1.5-2hr per load of jars
Normal venting and everything else

That's interesting you say it isn't getting your oats to sterilize.it shouldn't really matter what the source of heat is as long as it maintains that 15psi or higher, right?




You would think so! I have ran it at 15psi and had 100% failure by 2 weeks, realized it wasn't steaming properly, i now run it at 17-18psi and this last batch has been 10% failure at 3 weeks so it's promising. When i ran it on the stove, it was consistent at 17psi and i had 0% failure by 6 weeks. I've tried different batches AND brands of oats.

The ONLY possibility i could possibly see is that running it on gas could help hold heat in the sides of the PC versus the hotplate being almost induction-like. But that doesn't make much sense since i've seen a good handful of people running prestos on the hotplate.

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That’s what I would think too. I have the exact same model cadco, CSR-3T. On high, it probably takes me 30-45min to get to venting stage, 10 min to vent, another 20-30min to get to 15psi. Then I drop the control to a couple ticks below warm and it maintains for the full 90 min.




That basically lines up with my times as well. I see steam starting around 38-40 minutes, i've actually recently been letting it vent for 20 minutes just to be hella overkill, rocker on, takes about 15 minutes to get to 15psi, another 2-3 to get to 18psi then it's rock solid at 18 for 2 full hours. Ran another test batch at 3 hours today just for shits.


I prep my oats by doing the boiling water soak ala Eat's method. Boil water, dump in oats, wait 30 minutes, strain for 30, load 'n go.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #27582909 - 12/15/21 07:09 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I would probably question the grain at that point.

In the last 6 months are you saying you had success with oats and that presto but ran on gas?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #27582927 - 12/15/21 07:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

That was my initial thought, because i was using Producer's Pride and this year they've been dirtier than ever before. I've been buying them for three years now. Tried both Country Road and Nutrena Race Horse Oats, which were both MUCH cleaner, and had equally terrible results.

No, i meant that before i built the PID in Nov 2020, i used the stove/gas and had 0% contam. Might have been more like 1% but still, Jan 2019 through Nov 2020, PC on the stove and everything was perfect. Switch to the hotplate and everything is garbage. I did run a test batch on the stove a few days ago, for funsies. 18psi/2 hours/10 minutes venting, as standard.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #27583001 - 12/15/21 08:44 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

i struggle with oats. started withTractor Supply garbage, presto, electric stove, 20 min vent, 2h15m run, cool overnight.
gsrbage all
changed to TS Premium. still crap and major fail.
changed to Premium Racehorse Oats. 75x. bring to hiss, vent 5, close, bring to 18 psi, vent 22, bring to 18 psi , FIVE HOUR RUN. still not getting acceptable results.

:facepalm3::shrug:

Mille. .same run i. 75x expect only 4 hours. probably 90% success rate there.
prepping oats over the weekend for bags. probably run sterilzation section for 5 hours again.

might be hydration issues.

drives me nuts! fogging the lab tomorrow night with 500ppm hydrochlorous acid.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby] * 2
    #27583023 - 12/15/21 09:04 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I always had a very bacterial problem with oats. It was so minor that I didn't really notice it until I switched to wheat. Haven't had a contam issue ever since. I don't think I can ever go back to oats.


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