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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
#27567825 - 12/03/21 03:18 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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You'd want a chocolate melanger probably.
Pics of my chocolate experiment. Bound for a write up, got a bunch going on RN.
The final ones I ended up with this round were 1:9 mush to choc by weight and had to be hand packed, came out surprisingly smooth in the icecube trays. 40 gram chocolates average, 4grams per piece. Topped with cacao.

Got more pics, just need time to do the write up, was really interested to see the consistency in different rations. Been trying to condense the shot as much as possible.
The first pic is 1:1, 1:2, 1:3. Second might be 1:4 the third might be 1:7, ide have to look harder through all my pics, but the fourth pic is the 1:9, I was mushing it up like a dough at that point, and tri d to temper as usually but the heat wasn't transferring through the chocolate right so I just said fuck it at one point.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy] 1
#27567829 - 12/03/21 03:19 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you make tea, aqueous solution if you will, and then rotary evap the solution under a vacuum would the remaining exteact material be stable enough to tabletize?
For chocolate I think I'll get my simple syrup method attempted soon. Starting with concentrated extract, in theory, seems far easier to fighting the chocolate. Smarter not harder.
I'm excited for my current tubs, got 10 melmac hybrids knotting up
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat] 1
#27567987 - 12/03/21 06:06 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I saw an operation where these guys were cutting fent and pressing it into pills. They had this thing that was like a rock tumbler which I’m assuming is an agitator. They’d put the cut in there with a little bit of fent and it would run for a long time. Like 30 hours or something before it was considered mixed enough to be consistent.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27567991 - 12/03/21 06:08 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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tedoro said: Say, has anyone noticed that mycelia prefers grains that haven't been PC'd for 4+ hours? I'm seeming to notice that some jars(2 hour) are having better leapoff than some grain bags(4+ hours)... all other things constant.
But I could be trippin.
yes. not sure of the science behind it but if I accidentally pc grains for way too long they dont colonize as quickly or at all
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27567998 - 12/03/21 06:13 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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there's some powder mixers on amazon and ali express around $1-2k 5kg size.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27568026 - 12/03/21 06:35 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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tedoro said: Say, has anyone noticed that mycelia prefers grains that haven't been PC'd for 4+ hours? I'm seeming to notice that some jars(2 hour) are having better leapoff than some grain bags(4+ hours)... all other things constant.
But I could be trippin.
yes. not sure of the science behind it but if I accidentally pc grains for way too long they dont colonize as quickly or at all
Thanks! That might be happening with me and birdseed. I think I can overcome it by switching from agar wedges to G2G.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27568050 - 12/03/21 06:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I remember RR saying this about over PCd grains. I've done it over 4 a few time with no problems as far as colonization we're concerned.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27568128 - 12/03/21 07:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Questions.. I've been thinking about.. (1) rust on jar lids is it a problem as far as contamination.. Can I use rusty lids with no issues?? (2) with the prices of coco coir these days it's almost doubled in price in the last few months.. was 15$ a bag and now is 25$ what is the other option.. straw, sawdust, horse shit...any other options...anyone ever recycle coco.. I know coco is the best option.. I'd guess with inflation prices are not gonna be going back down...I have talked to people who have not been able to get verm and have discontinued using it.. as a result.. it was always expensive anyway..but now it's gone..along with peat moss supply chain issues.. idea
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Blackrainbow2 said: Questions.. I've been thinking about.. (1) rust on jar lids is it a problem as far as contamination.. Can I use rusty lids with no issues?? (2) with the prices of coco coir these days it's almost doubled in price in the last few months.. was 15$ a bag and now is 25$ what is the other option.. straw, sawdust, horse shit...any other options...anyone ever recycle coco.. I know coco is the best option.. I'd guess with inflation prices are not gonna be going back down...I have talked to people who have not been able to get verm and have discontinued using it.. as a result.. it was always expensive anyway..but now it's gone..along with peat moss supply chain issues.. idea
I've thought of this. From the little I've read I think it can be reused if sterilized. I suppose it's been out of the question because it's so cheap. But if prices keep going up, this may be the next thing. I'm interested in an answer from more experienced cults.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27568184 - 12/03/21 08:29 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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A.k.a said: I saw an operation where these guys were cutting fent and pressing it into pills. They had this thing that was like a rock tumbler which I’m assuming is an agitator. They’d put the cut in there with a little bit of fent and it would run for a long time. Like 30 hours or something before it was considered mixed enough to be consistent.
Yes, exactly, it feels like overkill using something like that but I just wanna do it 100% right. Thx for the bits of info, I'm very unfamiliar with agitators
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb] 1
#27568278 - 12/03/21 09:42 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I made these today using milk chocolate candy wafers (not real chocolate). There's around 1.5g powdered cubes in each one. I havent tried one yet but I made some without mushrooms and they taste comparable to Hersheys Chocolate. I'm gonna try my hand at tempering some higher quality chocolate this weekend.
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Blackrainbow2 said: Questions.. I've been thinking about.. (1) rust on jar lids is it a problem as far as contamination.. Can I use rusty lids with no issues?? (2) with the prices of coco coir these days it's almost doubled in price in the last few months.. was 15$ a bag and now is 25$ what is the other option.. straw, sawdust, horse shit...any other options...anyone ever recycle coco.. I know coco is the best option.. I'd guess with inflation prices are not gonna be going back down...I have talked to people who have not been able to get verm and have discontinued using it.. as a result.. it was always expensive anyway..but now it's gone..along with peat moss supply chain issues.. idea
I'm currently working on just how much coir can be reused. I've grown oysters, lions mane, king oysters, and chestnuts using sterilized spent cube substrate. I've also inoculated the same with cubensis, which are currently colonizing. My plan is to resterilize the same substrate and reinoculate over and over again and see how many generations I can go. I'll be keeping track of yields throughout the whole process, using the same culture, so I can see if the yields do diminish.
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Blackrainbow2 said: Questions.. I've been thinking about.. (1) rust on jar lids is it a problem as far as contamination.. Can I use rusty lids with no issues?? (2) with the prices of coco coir these days it's almost doubled in price in the last few months.. was 15$ a bag and now is 25$ what is the other option.. straw, sawdust, horse shit...any other options...anyone ever recycle coco.. I know coco is the best option.. I'd guess with inflation prices are not gonna be going back down...I have talked to people who have not been able to get verm and have discontinued using it.. as a result.. it was always expensive anyway..but now it's gone..along with peat moss supply chain issues.. idea
I'm currently working on just how much coir can be reused. I've grown oysters, lions mane, king oysters, and chestnuts using sterilized spent cube substrate. I've also inoculated the same with cubensis, which are currently colonizing. My plan is to resterilize the same substrate and reinoculate over and over again and see how many generations I can go. I'll be keeping track of yields throughout the whole process, using the same culture, so I can see if the yields do diminish.
Please document this. I'm very interested
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeatster]
#27568343 - 12/03/21 10:45 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Blackrainbow2 said: Questions.. I've been thinking about.. (1) rust on jar lids is it a problem as far as contamination.. Can I use rusty lids with no issues?? (2) with the prices of coco coir these days it's almost doubled in price in the last few months.. was 15$ a bag and now is 25$ what is the other option.. straw, sawdust, horse shit...any other options...anyone ever recycle coco.. I know coco is the best option.. I'd guess with inflation prices are not gonna be going back down...I have talked to people who have not been able to get verm and have discontinued using it.. as a result.. it was always expensive anyway..but now it's gone..along with peat moss supply chain issues.. idea
I'm currently working on just how much coir can be reused. I've grown oysters, lions mane, king oysters, and chestnuts using sterilized spent cube substrate. I've also inoculated the same with cubensis, which are currently colonizing. My plan is to resterilize the same substrate and reinoculate over and over again and see how many generations I can go. I'll be keeping track of yields throughout the whole process, using the same culture, so I can see if the yields do diminish.
Please document this. I'm very interested
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Blackrainbow2 said: Questions.. I've been thinking about.. (1) rust on jar lids is it a problem as far as contamination.. Can I use rusty lids with no issues?? (2) with the prices of coco coir these days it's almost doubled in price in the last few months.. was 15$ a bag and now is 25$ what is the other option.. straw, sawdust, horse shit...any other options...anyone ever recycle coco.. I know coco is the best option.. I'd guess with inflation prices are not gonna be going back down...I have talked to people who have not been able to get verm and have discontinued using it.. as a result.. it was always expensive anyway..but now it's gone..along with peat moss supply chain issues.. idea
I'm currently working on just how much coir can be reused. I've grown oysters, lions mane, king oysters, and chestnuts using sterilized spent cube substrate. I've also inoculated the same with cubensis, which are currently colonizing. My plan is to resterilize the same substrate and reinoculate over and over again and see how many generations I can go. I'll be keeping track of yields throughout the whole process, using the same culture, so I can see if the yields do diminish.
You have motivated me to try this with PP5 Ziplock quarts.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27568680 - 12/04/21 07:08 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why use positive pressure? "I grow in filth so why bother"
Why use axenic spawn? "Bacteria is fine, it pays the bills"
So to go along with this....
Gary from fresh farm made a video about positive pressure just yesterday.
But I'm with bod on its not necessary and maybe a negative,. Your just adding dirty air to be cleaned, and I think RR said something similar along the lines at one point. What do you all think.? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24649482
And drake89 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24453469
Also p9 how do you know your spawn is axenic? You just guess and hope right?
Do you even have a positive pressure setup p9 or you just talking out your ass again?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33] 2
#27568715 - 12/04/21 07:48 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Listen man, you keep looking for problems on this site and I really hope that you find some.
I've been a contributing member to this site for years, what have you contributed here other than to post inflammatory garbage that takes up space. Nobody likes reading this shit.
I've posted pictures, I've said enough on this site in enough places over enough time that reveals my level of understanding regarding most aspects of cultivation including the entire mushroom life cycle, both macro and micro.
My contribution has been such that the community trusts me when I say something, nobody trusts what you have to say because you're a combative noob that regurgitates bullshit that you've gleaned from reading the internet, which is a miracle in itself because you appear to be marginally literate at best.
Ted, another trusted member of this community has just called you out on that very point. We've both proven ourselves here and do not require any further verification.
Either contribute to this community or don't.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27568410#27568410
Put up or shut up.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27568719 - 12/04/21 07:53 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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and QM33, its super cool if u work at a gourm farm and don't want to take pics to compromise your position but please don't be giving advice on here unless you have actual experience with the subject matter. that sort of shit busts my balls. I have nothing against you as a person but when your on here giving advice when you've never proved that you're capable of any of the things you claim, that really rubs me the wrong way. please, please don't give advice unless you specifically have experience with the particular subject matter. trying to be cool isn't cool. learning is cool
That you p9. Talking about a steamer you don't have, a positive pressure lab you don't have, and axenic spawn you haven't verified. And you aren't even growing currently now have you had a sizeable gourmet farm.
So if people want to take advice from you, I feel sorry for them. Period. *Not that your a complete idiot, but your the self righteous old dog you can't treat new tricks. Practice will teach you much more than books.
The only thing I think you've done is your half ass endospore experiment which gave me a couple leads I would have eventually found my self. The attention your getting for your casing experiment is what's wrong with this community, people have one little experiment and think they recreated the wheel without controlling all the other variables. You haven't done anything a experienced cultivator would find impressive imo. And it's attitudes like yours and Ted's why we don't have more active well informed members.
Because people like you think you know it all, when really if you did, you would be doing more. And that attitude is distasteful to say the least.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27568726 - 12/04/21 08:05 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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My lab is on YouTube, anyone can look at it. My lab was positive pressure as required by Health Canada, we were in the process of converting the floor of that building into an R&D production lab to produce psilocybin for clinical trials, etc.
There are plenty of us that have things going on behind the scenes that aren't posted here for obvious reason, isn't this what you claim to do?
The difference between you and I is that I actually know what I'm talking about, have posted pictures of these things in the past and have been verified by observation of the mods and staff here on this site...
Who the fuck are you anyway? We don't know who you are but what we do know is that you're a shit talker that doesn't know the first thing about cultivation.
Many of us speak to each other behind the scenes here, believe me when I say that it's not just Ted and I that are tired of your fucking bullshit.
Now grow up and stay on topic.
@mods is this really what the shroomery has come to? Really?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27568733 - 12/04/21 08:19 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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What video can you observe the positive pressure system setup you have?
Doesn't mean it's necessary, I think I'll take bod and drake over you bud.
Ya I'm behind the scenes, but have no problem showing isolated pics if you want . Anything you want, I'll make it for you, how's that, I'll prove myself to the Shroomery for the sake of knowledge spreading, not to the point of incrimination.
I post pics, you've seen my lab, can't show you my grow room. Idk what you want, I can show you fruits? We're talking about facts, not me.
Don't know anything about me? Cause of pics or what? I've made trades all throughout this site, participated in all sorts of forums around here, met members in person, met professional connections through here who are wayyyyy more valuable to me than you, I help other members with their posts, I love to send free spores out. So what do you want? I have a couple write ups myself, and more coming, write ups that aren't the same old shit that everyone's seen before, like everyone of your videos. And at least I have a trade rating. Big dog can't hook up the homies with a print or culture in 10 years?
What I've been able to gather from your videos is you want attention. Make something that someone hasn't why don't ya?
And believe I talk to way more members on here than in the threads, I've actually made friends here in my short time. I didn't come here to learn,I came here to teach and to help. And hopefully you guys appreciate that eventually. And besides Ted's PC tutorial I mean his cubes are cool I guess.
And honestly hopefully who ever is making the TCs gets more aware to the reality of the situation. Because esomeone is a TC doesn't mean they're always right. And there's plenty of nonTCs on here that I would take info from before the two of you.
You were in the process of Rand D. Your a retired vet, with a guaranteed income and all the time in the world. I'm half your age probably and am going broke trying to keep my business afloat, I can barely relate to what you must understand as "farming".
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