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QM33
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#27561594 - 11/29/21 06:21 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Drboomer said: Hey man I know shits going down but did you do a write up on your steamer? I'd like to see more barrel builds.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25700858
Or
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27440759
I used a combination of the two
And maybe I'll try steaming my grains again Ted, thanks..
Edited by QM33 (11/29/21 06:25 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33] 1
#27561623 - 11/29/21 07:08 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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This cluster fat enough for you pervertz
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It makes my peepee go badoyng.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27561737 - 11/29/21 09:03 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm fixin to build a steamer utilizing like 3/5x55gal barrels. One boiler, and 2/4 receiving. For now I'm just gonna run the 150L for supp blocks in between grain runs. I figure a nice quick hr or so oughta do the trick.
Still got 2 prestos and the 75X for liquids n misc.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27561745 - 11/29/21 09:09 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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So you steam grains to quirk?? What you mean an hour what?
I'm planning on doing some bull experiments with cubes. Trying supped coir and even straw pellets with soy and wheat bran. That way I can make a bag of grain do like 5-10 tubs maybe. And I'm thinking about using the XLS .5ug bags and colonizing them on their side with the filter up. Hopefully they will pin in the bag and I can transfer the whole bag on its side into a mono, but the face off and who knows.. Looking at gourmet production, grains to coir can't be the future of commercial cubensis production. What do you guys think about that?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27561752 - 11/29/21 09:15 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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TedsDead said: just a nicely fruiting tub is all. my bags are clean bro and yes, I steamed them
yes I saw your hoods and u also not knowing how to get them working. my FFU is wired for 3phase as well.
Ya and I got it working with a VFD. What did you do? You didn't care to offer any help, only make me seem stupid for not knowing. Like WTF, I come here for help and I'm stupid?
Same shit with p9, oh I got bacteria, oh I was trying to understand the difference between hyphae and mycelium, which apperantly isnt as clear as everyone thought, I'm a dumbass noob.. I mean shit if that's all I'm behind some of you guys, I think I'm doing better than I thought.
And you never told me how long you steam your grains, what do you mean it depends on what your going for?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27561758 - 11/29/21 09:24 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 1
#27561773 - 11/29/21 09:34 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomery has a style. Its not very cowboy, shoot from the hip in its communication style. Its more academic, considered, and lets only talk about what we have proven to be true. And are willing to show that proof.
Lots of room on reddit for cowboys.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27561777 - 11/29/21 09:41 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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What you got against cowboys?
But I haz nothing to proof ?
Merely a product of this environment...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27561789 - 11/29/21 09:51 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm actually a cowboy myself. But when in Rome...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27561794 - 11/29/21 09:55 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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You guys are hilarious!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27561795 - 11/29/21 09:55 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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tedoro said: Shroomery has a style. Its not very cowboy, shoot from the hip in its communication style. Its more academic, considered, and lets only talk about what we have proven to be true. And are willing to show that proof.
Lots of room on reddit for cowboys.
Used to be a bit more contentious up in here. Fun to read but not very helpful.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lemgrub] 1
#27561855 - 11/29/21 11:12 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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The fights,
the gnarly beginner threads,
with their delicious, predictable, responses,
are the second best content after the cultivation info imo.
Reading the reviews (ratings) post battle. With a smile.
One aspect of comedy is always exaggeration, and the indignation and pettiness people will unleash..
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150L autoclave, I have. This is for sterilizing grain. It's currently my largest unit for processing and so I will also use it to prepare supplemented blocks until I build a steamer. I still learning to us3 it and I presume an hour for blocks will be sufficient. I run grain longer however I don't know how long is actually necessary for either.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27561970 - 11/29/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm low on money like the rest of us. Not enough money for tubs and cult equipment.
I hope this works. 3 shoe boxes crammed into a unmodded 66q tub lol!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Atomsplit] 1
#27561973 - 11/29/21 01:32 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Should work just fine.
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Quirkmeister92 said: I still learning to us3 it and I presume an hour for blocks will be sufficient. I run grain longer however I don't know how long is actually necessary for either.
Run your blocks the same as you run spawn bags, 3.5-4 hours @min 15psi.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27561982 - 11/29/21 01:39 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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QM33 said:
And you never told me how long you steam your grains, what do you mean it depends on what your going for?
you never asked. I steam mine for 12 hours once a core temp of 212F is reached. as for what your going for, that was explained in the post. if the steamer isnt going to be filled to the max Ill use the pc.
you never asked how long to steam grains. you posted about bacterial grains and said you never check your core temp and don't see a point in doing so which I pointed out as a possible reason for the contamination.
by they way, no one is obligated to help you but when they do it might be worth listening instead of being combative
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead] 2
#27561993 - 11/29/21 01:52 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Without a probe you're running blind. Probes ensure that the last bag to achieve core temp, has in fact reached that temperature. That bag is what starts your timer.
There's nothing controversial about that practice, the use of probes are common among professional growers, there seems to be a trend that has cultivators scoffing at tried and tested measures, methods, and equipment that streamline the cultivation process in favor of some misguided notion that less is more.
Why use positive pressure? "I grow in filth so why bother"
Why use axenic spawn? "Bacteria is fine, it pays the bills"
Why take pride in your trade and maintain a minimum standard of quality when you can run everything and get something, instead of taking pride in your work and doing it correctly, thereby producing the best possible quality end product possible.
Just because pigpen can grow bacterial mushrooms, doesn't mean that he should.
Nice grow Ted, thanks for the sound advice.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead] 1
#27561999 - 11/29/21 02:01 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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It smells like Collin Robinson in here....

Arguing theory with a dude who actually does this regularly with great success and has built these things just tastes bad and sets a shitty tone. It's classic abusive narcissism. Getting off on shitty feelings.
None of this is rocket science. Less pressure = more time in regards to sterilization. It's all steam and heat. The time it takes to reach sterilization will depend on the substance, individually packed substance quantities, amount of BTU's going in to the system, elevation above sea level, etc etc. Bigger bags take more time. Wood chips take longer than sawdust. Personally I'd do any grain with a husk longer than any grain without (oats/barley vs rye/wheat). You can buy sterilization strips that will help you time your cycles and find any cool spots in your rig. This is just regular shit that goes along with any steam/pressure system regardless of if it is a drum or old propane tank or welded dumpster or small brick building for that matter. You can literally steam sterilize a room full of racks if you want to.
It all depends on what you are going for.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
#27562005 - 11/29/21 02:09 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Could we please incorporate some rocket science? Jet fueled sterilization practices por favor.

Thanks p9 I'll run em the same. Gotta be sure to leave the center unpacked this time. Popped bags the first two runs even though there was no goofy steaming round 2.
Edited by Failboat (11/29/21 02:11 PM)
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