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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
#27541850 - 11/13/21 01:29 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sankhara said: Hi fellas!
I am starting to venture into grain water agar, but with a lot of doubts. (I'd use MEA or PDA but they aren' readily available in Argentina and BRF brings me trouble...)
Yes, lots of you TC's use it consistently with success but without following any widely recognized standard(some use it undiluted, some dilute it using their own judgement).
So...Given that I have zero experience with it...
Is undiluted grain water agar sufficiently nutritious to germinate spores?
You can find out (I don't know) or you can add some dextrose (corn sugar) to simulate PDA. Or you could just simmer a sliced potato for half an hour and use that (the "P" in "PDA").
Not a TC obviously.
Grain water needs to be diluted in my experience. Just like LC and agar should be clear and low on nutrients. Just need some essence of grain...Grain is pure nutrition.
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The .25 came out nice. The .5 came out nice. The .75 was wonky and was like squeezing a semi opiate induced butt muffin out with the assistance of laxative. The 1.0 was an absolute shit show.
what are these numbers? 1 to x? 1 being chocolate?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rockyfungus]
#27541891 - 11/13/21 01:58 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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rockyfungus said: Grain water needs to be diluted in my experience.
Nutrient content depends on what you want to do with it and "grain water" is not well defined either. Just saying.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro] 1
#27541892 - 11/13/21 01:58 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'm pretty sure that is grams to each 6 grams chocolate.
What kind of ratio do you use when you make it again tedoro? I didn't see you specify.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27541901 - 11/13/21 02:05 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was just looking that up. I'm currently doing microdosing chocolates at 1 to 18grams of chocolate. I've done higher ratios, but I guess I didn't document it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27541913 - 11/13/21 02:16 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, sandman nailed it. I figured you remembered because I clarified earlier. Saul Goodman. The bars I use take 6 grams chocolate per square and are four wide by six long. So the bars are 24 squares of 6 gram chocolates. The .25, .5, .75 and 1.0 were the grams of mush powder to 6 gram chocolate squares.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro] 1
#27541926 - 11/13/21 02:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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As an amateur jack all trades I have come to find emulsified infused MCT oil is the most efficient delivery method for oral canna ingestion. The cocoa butter gives us the crystalline structure for firm bars. Cocoa powder can be swapped with mush powder entirely should you choose. Sugar or sweetened condensed milk are optional and should be homogenized before adding the solids.
If you wish to use tea then make infused simple syrup which can then be incorporated directly into your chocolate. This allows you to make it very potent but obviously requires an extra step.
I have made no mush chocolates personally, but I know how to cook and bake pretty well. Lots of oil treats though. Gotta go decarb a years supply real quick actually. I'll make some simple syrup infused chocolates and report back...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27541946 - 11/13/21 02:42 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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QM33 said: I'm just going to use Hershey kisses. I was thinking they might not even need a temper because Hershey probably adds something so they can just skip the tempering process, I would guess. But I'm still going to try.
When I make some bomb shits I'm going to use organic fair trade cocoa and cocoa butter, organic coconut milk and organic powdered honey.
if you go that route you should add some coconut oil or your chocolates are gonna be dry and crumbly
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27541951 - 11/13/21 02:46 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tell me where you get your organic cocoa from, last time I was standing under cocoa, bananas, and coffee I was standing on plastic litter. Hurricanes dump trash all over, nothing organic about that garbage, but the food is still fine enough. Sometimes organic isn't very well regulated ya kno.
MCT oil is extracted from coconut oil it's liquid.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27541953 - 11/13/21 02:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can buy it from a local chocolate shop. It says organic, I don't know for sure but their chocolate is damn good
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27541956 - 11/13/21 02:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice, that's what counts taste, let the product sell itself right
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27541963 - 11/13/21 03:02 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I believe different recipes will have different melting points. I opt for mainstream chocolate chips because the seem to set well with no tempering... and hold a high melting point for fun summer travel. I'd use caution adding too much oil to the mix. Can turn into a mess in your festie fannypac.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27541982 - 11/13/21 03:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mainstream chocolate chips? I got 25kg Ghirardelli wafers, the like quarter size pieces, from webstraunt. If you're really about the chocolatier life then get as close to raw as possible. Sometimes you just need something good enough, but never go for chips.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27541986 - 11/13/21 03:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: I drank a few weeks ago at a show and regretted it like immediately. Nasty canned IPAs and I shut down some single mom who smelled my vape like stranger danger! I'm gonna stay away from alcohol for the most part although I buy hundreds of dollars on specialty bourbon semi-regularly
Enjoil that is terrible advice with the water, straight ran off a cliff right there. Gonna fuck up the chocolate and the mush bad. Adding some sweetened condensed milk would be safe. Otherwise I dig the tray method, but silicone molds would be better. Got fun shapes n stuff at micheals plus deals and rewards.
The IPAs are pretty good round here. We have some delicious fruity ones by Brew York. Though like you I do need to stay away from alcohol. Way too easily tempted and end up in bad situations, more so when I go out. Staying at home with the mrs can drink absolutely fine but other people get the better of my stress levels and I flip out.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27541989 - 11/13/21 03:28 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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wait, do you know something I don't? Ghiradelli wafers are made of a different chocolate than their chips?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
#27542081 - 11/13/21 05:04 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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rockyfungus said: Grain water needs to be diluted in my experience.
Nutrient content depends on what you want to do with it and "grain water" is not well defined either. Just saying. 
Very true. Germinating is kinda vague. For agar though I go as light as possible. Same with LC. Tricky spores I thought you want low nutrient too? Curious where higher nutrient is useful?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#27542088 - 11/13/21 05:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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What many people do is freeze there grain water in ice cube trays. Make them all level before freezing. Then add 1 icecube to 100ml of agar. If the growth is too fast add a second cube on the next batch too slow add 1 cube to 150ml agar. The reason it's not popular is because it takes some dailing in and experimenting.
I have used brf agar many times and have never had issues with translucent myc. If having trouble seeing it maybe try a drop of food coloring. Blue really makes the myc pop.
Really any source of carbs can be used as agar nutrition. In your area masa may be the ticket if instant potatoes flakes aren't available.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27542095 - 11/13/21 05:13 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Left to right. Magic per square..... This might get confusing as I've been snacking on pieces and it got a little stronger than I expected. Fuck it. I'll just throw up some pics now and............ see what happens.



I can prolly manage to think enough to at least splain the last pic. Left four are the baggy boil, 6 grams in the first bar, 12 in the next 18 in the next and 24 in the next. Right four are classic attempt at seeding and tempering but done without a thermometer. Those have 12 grams in each bar... Which equals .5 Grams per square.
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Pretty sure the blender to baggy boil ones are not evenly dosed at all. Pretty though.
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Yeah the last four came out great.
That one with 24….some strong ass squares.
And these don’t taste like shrooms at all?
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