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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27510681 - 10/19/21 09:21 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, "meme hood" I doubt anyone actually ever uses those boxfan "hoods" in areas that have a high spore load in the air or much bacteria around. maybe it works in a hospital room with 25 hepas in the ceiling?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27510877 - 10/20/21 03:49 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is in some peoples best interest to cause others to fail.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27510880 - 10/20/21 03:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cream of the crop right there
Must be good to get 100% success in open air.
I think one went on to say that contamination doesn’t even matter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420] 1
#27510882 - 10/20/21 03:55 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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definitely. I would never lie to anyone to set them back tho thats bs and super lame! but I may not be 100% forthcoming about all my methods and tactics I never will give advice about anything that I dont have experience with tho on this site. lying and trolling to try to further your success is lame AF. be true to your game.
the funny thing about that post is that the author literally contradicted themselves. are hospital rooms not filtered with ffu's? I personally have a moldy rat infested lab with bugs in it but my hoods give me a damn good success rate which could never be achieved with a merv-whatever rated filter in the same environment
Im not saying that "open air" stuff cant work but if your really doing open air then your doing "sterile" work outside, which is not going to give success and if its inside think of all the work that goes into cleaning a room vs cleaning a SAB. which is easier?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27510890 - 10/20/21 04:05 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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+1 Big difference in not sharing trade secrets and not being a twat haha.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420] 4
#27510897 - 10/20/21 04:12 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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no trade secrets. just my way of doing things. fuck all these liars tho! I hate people like that. if you aren't going to give good advice then shut the hell up. obviously they're too insecure to tell the truth because they wont be "special" if everyone knows what they do. I want all people to know as much as they can possibly handle. the world might be a better place
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27510992 - 10/20/21 06:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes here it's best not to share your ways of doing things, if it isn't what's considered absolute best practice there can be some dogpiling. I shared the way I like to hydrate oats, you would have thought I urinated in someone's mother's mouth.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#27511021 - 10/20/21 07:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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People are stuck in there ways. Or can't think beyond what they know.
I get lucky and can pull off things I would have never done in the South. I know my ways are flawed and I have dry conditions and elevation to kill most things.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rockyfungus] 1
#27511070 - 10/20/21 08:03 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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The truth of the matter is that growing cubes is super fucking easy, most of what we do can be achieved with pretty humble equipment and less than dazzling techniques...success doesn't look like much when you do things correctly, it's not a fish story by any means so I think that it has people wanting to over complicate things so that they can look special, as stated above, because there are those of us that have had very simple yet very genius insights that have changed the game for us all and that's where they want to reside.....
But...
We also employ techniques and technology employed by other fields, laminar flow benches are one of these tools, the "old heads" did not invent this shit to fuck with noobs.
Flowhoods NEED to produce laminar flow at a specific efficiency and velocity, still air boxes NEED to be still for them to work, autoclaves must be vented and operated properly, these equipment have been designed by engineers in their field and not by RR or any other mushroom science shill.
Challenging these facts to appear intelligent and cutting edge is the mycological equivalent of flat earth and fucking qanon, you're not special, you're fucking illiterate.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27511082 - 10/20/21 08:11 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would you put RR next to "any other shill"?
I think more appropriatly it could be viewed as Evolution of understanding.
I think we can all agree techniques are changed frequently enougj for misinformation to be spread. Like pastuerizing coir, or even coir quality as a factor relating to that.
I cant think of one reason you would say RR or any other mushroom sxience shill.... i think hes great actually. People hate on paul like that too. I dont see it. Maybe a little outdated. But in their time, some of the best.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27511091 - 10/20/21 08:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was being sarcastic, this is how they are referring to the old heads".
You are one of the more vocal/combative people on this site bro, I don't have much patience for you either.
For someone who didn't know what mycelium was only a month ago, you sure have a lot to say on the finer details of cultivation, so just relax.
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QM33 said: And if I understand correctly there is a difference between hyphae and mycelium and hyphae is the first step towards a fruitbody.
Now clarify me here cause if anything this may be my fault, the edges of mycelium on a petri dish are not hyphae, mycelium itself is not hyphae, hyphae turns into primordia./quote]
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27511104 - 10/20/21 08:27 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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For only $500 you can grow mushrooms just like most people do with grocery bags and a spray bottle!
https://newatlas.com/around-the-home/mella-mushroom-fruiting-chamber/
I’m sure it’ll make money like everything else though. 
Just like that dudes $150 collapsible SAB got plenty of action on Reddit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27511119 - 10/20/21 08:38 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wierd, i couldnt feel the sarcasm...
And thanks for bringing something up unrelated, that has to do with my mycogone experiment...
I was just trying to understand some of my research regarding how mucogone attacks fruitbodies.
And still h9nestly im unclear.
And i think rereading that now i may have mistyped it.
The edges of a petri ARE hyphae, the center of it is tho?
And is this true with all species that dont present aireal myc?
Like if you had a cube plate that was all rhizo and didnt see any visual hyphae other than what was im the edges, are there still hyphae in the center?
Maybe i should have asked, is hyohae still present in the mycelial mass yhat is not leading growth or bound to be primordia?
And your going to shit on me for asking that?
And combative is your view, i try not to come of hostile in my hunt for understanding.
Trying to understand the difference between hyphae and mycelium, man my bad.
Calling me vical/combative when you if anything need to work on your sarcasm brotha
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27511127 - 10/20/21 09:05 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hyphae is plural, hypha is singular.
Mycelium is singular while mycelia is plural.
Mycelium is a network of hypae, so Mycelium is a network of branching interconnected hypha.
Spores germinate to produce haploid monokaryotic hypha which is primary Mycelium, these will quickly find a sexually compatible hyphal mate, when they fuse together this is called anastomosis wherby they are now dikaryotic which is secondary mycelium; these now mated pairs may produce a basidiocarp (fruitbody) which is a woven mass of hyphae which is tertiary mycelium which will produce basidium and basidiospore.
Hypha and mycelium are basically synonymous.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27511129 - 10/20/21 09:07 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: The truth of the matter is that growing cubes is super fucking easy
Hit the nail on the head, as a newer member who still learning alot I see this issue as the cause for alot of frustration and arguments.
It seems like everyone has a different definition of success, to some its growing anything, others its having impeccable spawn. Its frustrating im sure for those interested in pushing the science forward in a fairly new field to deal with peoples pseudoscience and bs. Its also frustrating for people like me who are interested in learning to have to sift through the piles of bullshit. But Im most certainly not complaining i appreciate the bs being called out and debated (we all learn something), even if it hurts peoples feelings, let the shit fall through the cracks. If people want to get upset and take things personally thats their own issue.
Fix bad speech with better speech.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27511134 - 10/20/21 09:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well i really appreciate that. And it does help alot. And honestly i need to do more reading on that. I have both of pauls books and i must have just skipped those section to focused on growing conditions and prep and shit. Do you have any reccomended readings on that? Ive felt it would be hard to find info on that just because i dont really kbow where to start. I mean i know mono and dikaryotic. But thats about it. These terms anastomosis, tertiary myceloum and basidium... i should really go back and do some reading probably. Sometimes its hard to pick up a book tho ha, so bad. And ya any reccomended readings would be appreciated. Or ill just look into those terms.
I mean i guess its basic mushroom lifecycle stuff, but i do like to really dig into stuff i want to understand, look at multiple sources. And also like i said some stuff could be ourdated or even just incomplete.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: milkboy]
#27511135 - 10/20/21 09:16 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is why the TC tag was developed, so that noobs didn't have to wade through a never ending list of positive airbox and automated mono threads.
People believe that by challenging these basic principles they've become mycological pioneers that are advancing the frontier of science when in fact they are the equivalent of flat earth noobs that suffer from confirmation bias as though it was intellectual aids.
Edited by Stipe-n Cap (10/20/21 09:27 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27511138 - 10/20/21 09:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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QM33 said: Well i really appreciate that. And it does help alot. And honestly i need to do more reading on that. I have both of pauls books and i must have just skipped those section to focused on growing conditions and prep and shit. Do you have any reccomended readings on that? Ive felt it would be hard to find info on that just because i dont really kbow where to start. I mean i know mono and dikaryotic. But thats about it. These terms anastomosis, tertiary myceloum and basidium... i should really go back and do some reading probably. Sometimes its hard to pick up a book tho ha, so bad. And ya any reccomended readings would be appreciated. Or ill just look into those terms.
I mean i guess its basic mushroom lifecycle stuff, but i do like to really dig into stuff i want to understand, look at multiple sources. And also like i said some stuff could be ourdated or even just incomplete.
https://www.mushroomexpert.com/glossary.html#asci
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-ascomycetes-and-vs-basidiomycetes/
https://www.mushroomexpert.com/microscope.html
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27511139 - 10/20/21 09:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the only difference between hyphae and mycelium is that mycelium is the mass of the whole hyphae?
And then there can be mono and di hyphae?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27511140 - 10/20/21 09:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is a great resource as well:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27400202#27400202
A glossary of terms, this entire site is an excellent resource:
https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/fungi/mycoglossary.htm#mwords
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QM33 said: So the only difference between hyphae and mycelium is that mycelium is the mass of the whole hyphae?
And then there can be mono and di hyphae?
This is all discussed in the life cycle thread
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27395480#27395480
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