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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
    #27474090 - 09/19/21 10:35 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Perfect, thank you QM. Got a few plates of your white rabbit on the go, eagerly waiting.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla] * 1
    #27474094 - 09/19/21 10:36 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

That's the feeling of you should probably start over and you got top much bacteria in your jars worth spawning.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
    #27474134 - 09/19/21 10:56 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Yea, dry grains have lower thermal conductivity and will not heat up properly, acting as insulation. This could lead to bacterial endospores surviving.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420] * 1
    #27474155 - 09/19/21 11:09 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Plus the mycelium needs a drink


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27474161 - 09/19/21 11:14 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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Perfect, thank you QM. Got a few plates of your white rabbit on the go, eagerly waiting.




Sweet u hope they germ okay, they do appreciate patience it seems.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27474475 - 09/19/21 03:30 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

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Has anybody ever paid attention to agar nutrition affecting jump off speed? A few weeks ago I knocked up a bunch of jars that just sat around, with one eventually jumping off after two weeks and then growing normally. I figured it was because I had been keeping my plates in a room that never got below 90 and regularly went above 110.

So I took wedges and grew them all out at normal temps. I knocked up a new batch three days ago and nothing. They look like it was three minutes ago. The only thing I can think of is I’ve been using slightly harder and more nutritious plates lately.




If the strain has never been on grain it has to first turn on enzymes to use it as food, and that can take a while, possibly a really long while, depending on the strain. :shrug:

Proof is if you go from grain to agar and then back again there's no lag at all.  Some strains may like agar better, that's why I sometimes think germinating on grain is a better bet even if less controlled.  See https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26369976 for an experiment with that there... :cookiemonster:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27474676 - 09/19/21 05:58 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

Interesting.

Yet another thing for the list of experiments :lol:



It’s just so weird because I’ve run a ton of cultures and never seen it before. I thought it was a problem with the grain at first but then the one eventually went.


It can only be the higher nute plates or heat to affect 8 different cultures like that. Using grain water in agar always seemed to be logical too.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27474775 - 09/19/21 07:52 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

does enigma only pop up from albino tubs? i remember the guy semi recently that was growing a RW tub and then an enigma popped up. my maz shoeboxes that had all these offwhite/yellowish boogers are fruiting like crazy off the sides and bottoms, but the top now seems like those boogers grew a bit and theres some wavy/fin looking things that are bruising blue. ill snap a pic in a day or two when i harvest the rest of the fruits cause right now the sub is standing on its side because the bottom/side fruits so its hard to take a good pic.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27474813 - 09/19/21 08:32 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

Enigma is a specific clone only culture, but that type of mutation can show up in anything. I had one in an ESS tub recently.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27474815 - 09/19/21 08:35 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

huh, so if you clone the mutant will it give fruits like that?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27474916 - 09/19/21 10:25 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

Shroomery noob question.

First off thank you big much, this forum saved me from buying a kit from a place in the middle of America. Thank goodness I googled "_____ grow kit review" and found this site. I've spent hours in here reading over the past week or so.

I'm on my way with cube cakes and I want to create a log of my first grow but I don't have permission to post in the grow log forum so perhaps that's not the right place for it? Should I use my journal instead?

Thanks!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hairy Beary] * 1
    #27474957 - 09/19/21 11:16 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

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Shroomery noob question.

First off thank you big much, this forum saved me from buying a kit from a place in the middle of America. Thank goodness I googled "_____ grow kit review" and found this site. I've spent hours in here reading over the past week or so.

I'm on my way with cube cakes and I want to create a log of my first grow but I don't have permission to post in the grow log forum so perhaps that's not the right place for it? Should I use my journal instead?

Thanks!




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
    #27475095 - 09/20/21 03:06 AM (2 months, 11 days ago)

I’m wondering what everyone’s cleaning procedures are. In general and when you have jars contaminate. I’ve just been using dish soap to clean everything and when I have contamination issues I soak in a tub of water with some bleach first. I’m just wondering if there’s anything special that I should be doing. Also, do you PC your agar tools often? I did a couple times but then I’m flame sterilizing before I use anyways so I’m not sure there’s any point.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feedyourhead33]
    #27475265 - 09/20/21 09:21 AM (2 months, 11 days ago)

Could someone with experience in tents and humidifiers check my thread out please?

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27475155

I'm getting a small tent and want to know if the mist maker 3 (1200ml per hour) is too much for my size tent.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27475288 - 09/20/21 09:45 AM (2 months, 11 days ago)

If you get a moldy jar you can fill a bucket with soapy water and open the jar under water so the spore cloud doesn’t blow all over.


If it’s really bad you can pc the jar to kill the mold first. Honestly I just throw bad jars out now. It’s so gross cleaning them I just can’t do it to save a 70 cent jar even though I feel bad tossing it.



If you’re flame sterilizing you don’t need to pc them. I wipe down my scalpel handle with iso and then flame the entire blade really well before I start, then I just flame the blade above where it snaps on between transfers.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27475347 - 09/20/21 10:32 AM (2 months, 11 days ago)

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If you get a moldy jar you can fill a bucket with soapy water and open the jar under water so the spore cloud doesn’t blow all over.


If it’s really bad you can pc the jar to kill the mold first. Honestly I just throw bad jars out now. It’s so gross cleaning them I just can’t do it to save a 70 cent jar even though I feel bad tossing it.



If you’re flame sterilizing you don’t need to pc them. I wipe down my scalpel handle with iso and then flame the entire blade really well before I start, then I just flame the blade above where it snaps on between transfers.




Wouldn't opening the jar under water cause the water to rush in and a spore explosion in your face?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rockyfungus]
    #27475404 - 09/20/21 11:16 AM (2 months, 11 days ago)

Thinking about throwing a bunch of lc into millet jars that are very slow because of possibly drynes. It should be ok right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27475421 - 09/20/21 11:36 AM (2 months, 11 days ago)

I clean grain jar in the dishwasher, works normally. Usually sit outside on a chair scooping out the grains beforehand. Agar jars dont even get dishwashed, just scooped out n refill, no problem.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27475588 - 09/20/21 01:49 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

I've only ever used gas burners for large pots or drum pasteurizing but I don't have my burner at the moment and have this solid plate stove.
You reckon a 20L canner would be ok on this stove?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27475625 - 09/20/21 02:15 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

If it can get it up to pressure, it can hold it.

Test today my friend, ive had oven plates so weak it took 1h to get a 6L pc up to steam

With oven guards turning it off every 10 minutes or so

Pure hell


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