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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #27458543 - 09/06/21 06:18 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Cud be as simple as something used in the manufacturing process. Looks like they mate though. Maybe securing feature.

Every time ive ever cut through rhyzo it fluffs up on recovery.

BB wud have more experience with this than i, but you may see a difference in growth by cutting your lme back by about 65% and throwing in a pinch of nutrient yeast.

In the 3 or 4 yrs i been fucking with this shit ive been privy to many rhyzo vs tomentose discussions and they pretty much all end in "it's jst that way." Ropey shit looks cool but im not convinced it makes any difference what so ever. Besides, the nutrient source will change when it's put to grain. So it may look different at that point.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27458564 - 09/06/21 06:35 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Taking a culture to an extra transfer on the same agar recipe ought to show consistent growth patterns including the recovery. If it behaves the same then the culture is consistent, and if it grows clean then that's all you need. Anything strange and you know something is amiss.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat] * 1
    #27458597 - 09/06/21 07:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

ok guys we gotta talk about this, theres another thread on it but some of the shit from the video is really interesting to me

inside alan rockefellers lab


HOLY SHIT that one culture of cubensis (TW2) was almost 4% alkaloids, making it the strongest known psilocybin mushroom...

wtf cubes are the most potent after all! pans and azures BTFO'd

TW2 being a tidalwave variant. im seeing some claims that tw2 is enigma, can anyone confirm that? any pics of the ones that won the cup?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #27458601 - 09/06/21 07:03 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Alan is insanely smart. You can catch him in mush hunt and id often. His sequencing has resolved a few controversial species like the tamps/galindoi/mexicana confusion and stamets walaei whatevers.

/e and yes. enigma is a tidal wave mutation/clone, mudbutt was the guy that stabilized and spread it around


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #27458631 - 09/06/21 07:54 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Dude 4% is insane.

And a cube of all things. Talk about the genetic jackpot.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27458644 - 09/06/21 07:58 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

So that’s tidal wave 2?  Is that what tw2 stands for?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
    #27458648 - 09/06/21 08:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

:begger:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27458653 - 09/06/21 08:06 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it was a tidal wave culture somebody submitted.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
    #27458655 - 09/06/21 08:06 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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So that’s tidal wave 2?  Is that what tw2 stands for?



probably. I remember brainiac was what he called it for a bit. probably went through a few names.

strange, i tried to search it up and i'm finding no results. No clue why. I remember himn doing the cross and cloning it and all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #27458657 - 09/06/21 08:09 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Tidalwave 2 is what the plunger says from [fill in the blank]


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet] * 1
    #27458668 - 09/06/21 08:21 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

so tw2 is actually the enigma/coral clone. makes sense.

here are the full test results from the cup if anyone is interested. kinda surprised they allowed a galindoi in the mix, and that it placed dead last lol

definitely a trend in the genetics that placed best




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27458766 - 09/06/21 11:08 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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I think you’re combining Texas white cap and teds trump dick :lol:






Theyll both be available soon😘


Got 50+ spare twc prints still


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27458769 - 09/06/21 11:13 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I love my TWC :thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27458781 - 09/07/21 12:20 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Glad to hear!  I havent grown it in a little bit but have heard great reports from friends


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27458811 - 09/07/21 03:01 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

What they didn't test or account for in the cup was degradation of actives. A liberty cap was submitted and there's speculation of it being super old material or just not a lib cap to begin with.

On the mushroom hour podcast there is an episode out that takes place after the testing but before the final results where the host of the cup goes into a some detail

Episode 78.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #27458844 - 09/07/21 05:02 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

What do you guys think about this?

I live in a pretty small studio flat but I want to put a mini (tall) tent full of gourmets on the opposite side of the room to where I work with my flow hood.

There’s about 4+ metres between where the tent would be and my desk with flow hood.

There shouldn’t be an issue with spores should there? Especially with the distance and the tent being closed up while I’m working.

Probably sounds dumb especially with all the mould spores flying around nearby, just wanted to double check.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27458850 - 09/07/21 05:13 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

You run a risk of cross contamination of spores if you don't consider filtering the air from the tent or vent it externally, even then you have the spores in the tent when opening.

It's a risk unfortunately but you would most likely find if you run the hepa for a short while prior it could blow off any built up spores from the tent itself that may have settled on the pleats.

The problem won't show itself now but once you have had a decent oyster grow you will find spores will be everywhere in your room unless you focus on harvesting early.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27458877 - 09/07/21 06:25 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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You run a risk of cross contamination of spores if you don't consider filtering the air from the tent or vent it externally, even then you have the spores in the tent when opening.

It's a risk unfortunately but you would most likely find if you run the hepa for a short while prior it could blow off any built up spores from the tent itself that may have settled on the pleats.

The problem won't show itself now but once you have had a decent oyster grow you will find spores will be everywhere in your room unless you focus on harvesting early.




Cool man, thank you. I always run for 1-2hr anyway.

Yeah them oyster spores are bastards. Seen full oysters growing out of people’s trainers hahaha


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27458921 - 09/07/21 07:28 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I’m curious how much was affected by drying method and storage/age.


Cuz there’s another enigma further down the list which you’d think they’d all be close since it’s a clone culture.


Then again I also have no idea how it hasn’t run into senescence.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27458970 - 09/07/21 08:21 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

You can find tw2 spores at magicmyco.
Shame I was supposed to get a swab from an apperantly well know long time member for a trade, they they arrived and i mentioned it and they said they would make it right, never heard from them, never bothered whatever.

Also in terms of producing tryptamines I'm pretty sure you could do like 4 standard runs compared to 1 enigma. Sure it may be the most concentrated, but if it takes 4 times longer to grow.... idk it's neat.


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