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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27456014 - 09/04/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Indeed.  I havent done a comparison but i bet shiitakes taste better when dried without heat


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27456016 - 09/04/21 01:34 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Freshness and how fast they were dried affects taste alot.  Also some strains are much more bitter than others.  Azzies taste the worst IMO



This.
Only have an issue with the taste when I received them from other people. When I eat my own they are easy to get down with just water.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27456127 - 09/04/21 03:10 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Freshness and how fast they were dried affects taste alot.  Also some strains are much more bitter than others.  Azzies taste the worst IMO




How though? What's going on


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27456132 - 09/04/21 03:13 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I have no clue about the exact science behind it. Dry a batch at at 95F and dry a batch at 160F and and see what you think.  Theres a big difference


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27456135 - 09/04/21 03:15 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I can’t stand eating them. Capsules and a coffee grinder were the best thing I ever bought :lol:


Then I have a friend who chews them a little and packs them into his cheek like dip and sucks the juices out of them for half an hour :puke:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27456155 - 09/04/21 03:33 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Hardcore!    I dont mind the taste i just dont like em stuck in my teeth


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27456157 - 09/04/21 03:35 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Freshness and how fast they were dried affects taste alot.  Also some strains are much more bitter than others.  Azzies taste the worst IMO




How though? What's going on




I think a big part if it is drying before bacteria grows, bacteria will produce an aroma, which will translate to flavir with gourmets at least some flavors will be preserved by lower temp drying, terpenoids will cook out at lower temps even 9ver 100, of course were not going for flavor with cubes. Really the longer you dehydrate the cubes the less they will taste/smell unless of course bacteria was growing prior. But of course you wouldn't want to over do it and potentially start oxidizing actives.
I can't remember if it's psilocybin or psilicin that's more susceptible to oxidization. But really I bet you could dehydrate fruits for 48 without a noticeable loss in potency.


Lol I hate the taste. But I kinda love finding a piece in my teeth like 2 or 3 hours in, find it and chew on it a little, I can feel it seepin in
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Or if your shrooms were like 95% dry and you bagger up, come back to smell those, they stink worse.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27456169 - 09/04/21 03:52 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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It was my first experience with shrooms ever, I've only done lsd before. I just chewed the shrooms with honey trying to masticate it as best as I could. I just got this tension in my stomach and the bottom of my throat I usually get when I get nauseous on psychedelics. Or maybe that was some allergy towards shrooms. I heard it's possible to be allergic.

It's interesting people seem to redose shrooms. I've always heard if you don't take doses of psychedelics at one time you instantly get a tolerance so your redose needs to be higher.




Nah it takes most of an hour for tolerance to set in.  If you re-up shortly after the comeup (when you know pretty much how strong the dose you took up was) there's little effect    LOST    due to tolerance. 

Which I see was said already but it bears repeating. :cookiemonster:


edit:  wasn't clear whether reupping worked or not from what I said the first time :laugh2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27456175 - 09/04/21 03:59 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Thats why u wait til comedown to eat more:wink:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27456181 - 09/04/21 04:03 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Ted: you can smell the difference in those heating temps? As in smell the difference between differently dehydrated shrooms?

If taste is affected, it's probable that the smell would be too.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead] * 1
    #27456190 - 09/04/21 04:11 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Thats why u wait til comedown to eat more;)




This guy knows! Last pan trip found some yard cubes at like 2am. Howled at the moon!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27456207 - 09/04/21 04:21 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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I try to use as few spores as possible.


What I usually do is scrape up a little pile of spores, then I put a plug into a syringe and remove the plunger. Then I pick up the print and tap the spores into the back of the open syringe.


After that I use a second syringe full of sterile water and spray it into the new syringe making sure I knock off any spores that got stuck to the sides of the barrel.


Then put the plunger back in and shake it up.




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27456222 - 09/04/21 04:38 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I'll keep the re-up technique in mind when I go at it again on labor day :thumbup:

I've actually been drying my shrooms for like 40hrs lol. I'm still trying to get the dryness at the right level and these APE are really hard to know when it's done. They're so thick that even when dry theyre all foamy/fibery so I tend to let them go extra long just in case. I could slice them down the stem but it's not as aesthetically pleasing  :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27456235 - 09/04/21 04:53 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I think in one thread A.k.a recommend drying x amount of time, weighing them, then drying like 2 more hours and weighing them again to see if they are still losing weight to help see if they are done.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: milkboy]
    #27456237 - 09/04/21 04:54 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

That's a good idea


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27456287 - 09/04/21 05:48 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I would guess the flavor aspect is terpenes breaking down.
I dont know, everyone's biology is different, I personally love re-dosing sometimes halfway into a trip.  I guess you just have to find your own rhythm. But your re-dose deff isn't going to pack the punch of the first drop.

I have a tub (64qt typical 650g CV:5 quarts) that just fully colonized and is pinning in under 8 days.  I've never seen that before.  Is that typical?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wiscoregon]
    #27456434 - 09/04/21 09:21 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

If I'm using a monotub as a humidity chamber for putting open shoeboxes or trays would a taller or shorter one be better? I got a long underbed tub that's a few inches taller than a shoebox and I found some normal height monotubs that I can use too. Planning to go unmoded.

I think good cultures pin around 8 days. Non of mine have done that :lol:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27456436 - 09/04/21 09:24 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

My AA+ run I'm doing right now just pinned today, exactly two weeks from spawning. I'm doing that p9 style really high sub to spawn thiccboi ratio though.

For the humidity chamber you want enough room for the fruit to grow, so however many more inches you need really?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: wahhwahh]
    #27456439 - 09/04/21 09:27 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Both would be good for the height, I don't have tall cultures, but I was wondering if the extra height gives better condensation/humidity/fae or other atmosphere conditions. Like how people say dubtubs provide better conditions than just the lid on for a shoebox.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ora]
    #27456487 - 09/04/21 10:13 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Both would be good for the height, I don't have tall cultures, but I was wondering if the extra height gives better condensation/humidity/fae or other atmosphere conditions. Like how people say dubtubs provide better conditions than just the lid on for a shoebox.



I’ve also wondered this


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