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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27449027 - 08/30/21 06:40 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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So probably not unless i want to risk a fire...
Well im confused, so you put 4 quarts into a regular 3t 5-7lb bag? Cause your saying large bags but i didnt think you were using the 3tlong, 7-9lb bags.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449028 - 08/30/21 06:44 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea 4 qts in regular 3T bags. Never used the long bags, it's not the length that is a problem with volume but the width/footprint.
I've never looked at a spawn bag and said "man I wish this was longer" lmao
edit: The proper way to control the air with these blower is to block part of the intake. This keeps the start winding from being activated while changing airflow.
Edited by sandman420 (08/30/21 06:44 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27449034 - 08/30/21 06:51 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Word. Its conviently worked out. I run 4 strains for my gourmets. About 600lb of sub hydrated. I figure 5% for spawn is 30lbs. So i need 4 7.5lb grain bags a week. Ive been makinng them closer to 10+lbs the last couple weeks experimenting. And i originally got the bags cause the 3t reg were out, and i was using the 3tlong for sawdust at a point. And if i can fit 2 big boys in 1 23presto i run 2 prestos at once qnd thats my 30lbs of spawn at least. Ive tried to minimize my bag usage not obly for times sake, but also to make it as sustainable as possible, less bags and less filters, as well as less filling and sealing and mixing and inoculating
So your saying i should limit the intake on my centrifugal fan? The resistance shouldnt be hazardous?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449041 - 08/30/21 06:59 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can fully block off the intake side if you want and it will run all day. That is how it's done in the HVAC world.
Say you wanted to use a blower in your garage for a badass fan? Fully/partially block the intake side or it will run the start winding while running and burn up. They are not designed to run without resistance, like I said earlier the start winding is tied to the speed and torque of the motor.
Edited by sandman420 (08/30/21 07:07 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27449052 - 08/30/21 07:06 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fucking genious.
Thankd man! Ypu definetly saved me a few bucks. Going to slow it down to keep my humidity and co2 levels up a bit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449055 - 08/30/21 07:08 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just to be clear I am talking about a squirrel cage type blower not an inline fan.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
#27449064 - 08/30/21 07:15 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
BrownBear said: I buy my bags from shroomsupply and my impulse sealer I bought from uline. I bought the 16" sealer. I like the large 3T bags.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27449065 - 08/30/21 07:16 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit ya im talking about a centrifugal inline....
How do i slow that down?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449082 - 08/30/21 07:29 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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haha see the weed grow world had ambiguated the word, centrifugal should refer to a squirrel cage type and axial refers to the inline type.
But anyway you can totally use a speed controller for those.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27449088 - 08/30/21 07:34 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh shit lol okay. Thx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449472 - 08/30/21 12:43 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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So if you post pictures of some jars and someone says something like "I don't like the look of that, looks a bit bacterial but you'll probably get something" and then you spawn the jars and take them through 3 good flushes without anything ever rearing its head. Does that mean you are just dealing with a paranoid Pete who sees contamination even when it doesn't exist, or does it mean having lightly contaminated jars means jack all for growing mushrooms?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Abyssinian]
#27449475 - 08/30/21 12:45 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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It may mean that you need to readjust your perception of what a good flush is.
In my eyes if you have room for a second flush your first flush sucked.
Dense canopies are the result of immaculate spawn and good genetics; you could have great genetics and less than optimal spawn which will get you "a" flush, maybe even 3, but they won't be dense canopies with a high biological efficiency.
Example:
Here's "a" flush:

Now here's a couple more:
 
One thing I not like the other, definitions of "a good flush" varies from individual to individual.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27449491 - 08/30/21 12:54 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you saying a 'bad' flush is bacteria issue or a genetics and spawning technique issue? Because I'm wondering about the bacterial part of it.
It was MS genetics for my first grow of that variety, sorry I didn't get a one flush hero from that . I could have been done in two, really the third was purely to give them more time for a contaminant to show up for my own edification, and they didn't as far as I could tell. Seems like people can go around calling stuff dirty with impunity: if it contams they were right, and if it doesn't contam then can still claim they were right and you got lucky, its tautological.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Abyssinian] 1
#27449500 - 08/30/21 12:59 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do and think what you want. You asked a question so I answered, sparse flushes are the result of poor genetics, poor conditions, dirty spawn.
If you're happy with having to flush your tub 3 times that's great, but if you want one and done you're going to need to select the correct clones, dial your Conditions, but most importantly you'll have to produce perfectly clean spawn.
This is incontrovertible, argue about it all you like, noobs can't just walk in here and upend decades of knowledge with iso soaked spoons and claiming that bacterial spawn isn't a thing.
If your spawn is shit expect shit results, if you're used to shit results then you're in danger of thinking that shit results are great results.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Abyssinian]
#27449502 - 08/30/21 01:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive gotten dense canopies from bacterial spawn that contaminates right after harvest about. I think its more genetics and the absense of mold. Not necessarily immaculate.
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#27449510 - 08/30/21 01:04 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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QM33 said: Ive gotten dense canopies from bacterial spawn that contaminates right after harvest about. I think its more genetics and the absense of mold. Not necessarily immaculate.
You're a fucking liar, your spawn sucks.
Pics or it didn't happen. This place is turning into a noob circus.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27449515 - 08/30/21 01:07 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is fucking hilarious.
I myself am a noob circus, but since trying to emulate a lot of p9's methods I'm getting way better results. If only I could justify an ffu.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449517 - 08/30/21 01:07 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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From bacterial spawn:
 ApeXpf f1
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White rabbit

Like i said all my spawns veen bacterial lately, can see it, but i can smell it through the filters before i spawn even. Definetly working on it tho
Just setup the pc with 2 9quart what bags, but i put them in there side by side rather than on top one another, un sealed with 4 rings between and 3 beyween tjem and the pc. Also i did 2 layers of rings below the trivet, about .75 gallons watwr. With a trivet on top the bags folded accordian style with a plate atop that. Plan on running it 4 hours. Not easy cleabing big ass grain bags.
Anyone ever try making 9quart grain bags or is that just me?
I measured them more accuratly then ever today, and the ones in the past must have been like 11 i shit you not, ha im so lazy sometimes..
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449518 - 08/30/21 01:08 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol and you called me a liar. As i was posting pics. There you are... sir...
Pics or it didnt happen would have been enough... asshole
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
#27449522 - 08/30/21 01:11 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, you got me...bacterial spawn is great, my bad.
Sorry guy's clearly bad spawn wins the day. I need a break from. Posting to this fucking place.
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