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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #27417423 - 08/06/21 08:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah and that's great and its reality that not everyone is a scientist but I kinda admire those who aspire to be more. Especially those who don't put on airs and are just truly curious people who respect science enough to want to be a part of the community. I've met plenty of very educated scientists who know all the big words and who aren't half as passionate as p9. With the amount of information available if one wants an education they can absolutely get it. If that's not you then yeah, do the scientists a favor and don't steal valor. In my eye that's humble but celebrating getting the job done without any of that fancy shmancy science just hits me as disappointing or at least is not my cup of tea.

But yeah, fuck education, learning, accuracy, curiosity, analysis, and gleaning knowledge from the reports of others. Who needs it as long as you can pump out like totally sick canopies dude. #growmoarmush indeed. God bless the shroomery. 





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Hey, I get it.  Person just wants other people to see the beauty in science that they do.

Person is also a tad unskillful in expressing that and ends up coming off pretentious as fuck.

But hey, we all do drugs, we can't expect to have social skills too.




Thats totally fair.
My social skills are in the negative lol.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27417424 - 08/06/21 08:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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lol so we’re supposed to be scientists instead of criminals? Rofl, okay man.




You can be whatever you want, your goals are dictated by your intentions, level of curiosity, and temperment. Some people are here to grow drugs to make money, other's are not.

My goal is to engage in mycology, I'm curious and cultivate simply for the love of cultivating and learning. I could cultivate without growing actives, but I love them as well. I post here because that's what I like to do, and I do that for free as well.

Look at what Alan Rockefeller does on this site and in his professional life, fueled by curiosity and competence. He's not a cultivator, but still.

We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”

I spend most of my time reading about cultivation, about various species and their lifecycles. By the time I'm done with this life I'll be as much a mycologist as any who've ever attained a formal degree, but that's not for everybody and it would be insufferably boring if it was. We all bring something to the table here, and that's why this place is famous.

Places like this are responsible for bringing cultivation to the masses,if you know anything about the history of cultivation this is quite the achievement.

Every time that one of you crafty fuckers authors a novel technique for the propagation of mushrooms, you've contributed to the discipline of mycology, as evidenced here:



There's nothing wrong with what multifractal is saying.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ashtray161]
    #27417425 - 08/06/21 08:20 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It took going to prison to get mine halfway decent.

Social skills become real important when you're a scared little hippie living with with murderers and rapists and shit.

I just choose not to use those skills most of the time :lmafo:

Also by person I meant fractal.  I edited it to make it clearer.  Was being high and lazy, my bad for confusion Ashtray.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27417427 - 08/06/21 08:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You must’ve not seen my second post lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #27417429 - 08/06/21 08:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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paperbackwriter said:
It took going to prison to get mine halfway decent.

Social skills become real important when you're a scared little hippie living with with murderers and rapists and shit.

I just choose not to use those skills most of the time :lmafo:




Thats relatable. I use to have some, when I used to spange (or beg/panhandle, whatever you wanna call it) I was actually a pretty funny and charming person. Totally lost those skills when I got off the road lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #27417430 - 08/06/21 08:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I think I expressed what I was feeling pretty accurately. Not everything one feels is palatable to another so I accept all judgement or I wouldn't have said it. If that rubs you the wrong way so be it. For the record, I really like this board and was not trying to insult it in general as much as a certain aspect.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #27417431 - 08/06/21 08:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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paperbackwriter said:
Hey, I get it.  Person just wants other people to see the beauty in science that they do.

Person is also a tad unskillful in expressing that and ends up coming off pretentious as fuck.

But hey, we all do drugs, we can't expect to have social skills too.



I think you nailed it. No one's shitting on him for his question. If people really thought he was being a complete dick his rating would be dropping, and it aint. No one's butt hurt here.

Everyone here cares, that's why we aren't like the trash reddit boards. But we don't all have the college level understanding of mycology. We're just answering to the best of our knowledge from our experience.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27417432 - 08/06/21 08:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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There's nothing wrong with what multifractal is saying




Thank you dude, I appreciate you saying that here in man, it means a lot given how unpopular that sentence is. I should be less gauche to be worthy of this sentiment.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: multifractal] * 1
    #27417434 - 08/06/21 08:27 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I think I expressed what I was feeling pretty accurately. Not everything one feels is palatable to another so I accept all judgement or I wouldn't have said it. If that rubs you the wrong way so be it. For the record, I really like this board and was not trying to insult it in general as much as a certain aspect.




Look man, we all appreciate the world in different ways is the thing.  I like your point of view. I really enjoyed something you wrote earlier, maybe in this thread, maybe someplace else about mathematics and fractals. I like other people in this threads point of view too.

I don't think you meant to come off pretentious or insulting.  But judging by the reaction of 75% of this thread, you obviously did come off that way.

Which is why I say you lack social skills.  It's cool.  Really.  We're on the internet on a drug forum.  It's really not that odd to lack social skills here.  Really.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: multifractal] * 2
    #27417437 - 08/06/21 08:29 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I don’t do drugs. I’ll have a year sober from everything including weed on Tuesday!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: multifractal]
    #27417438 - 08/06/21 08:29 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I think people are probably jumping on your dick because that last paragraph certainly implied that we’re all here just to grow mushrooms and that’s it.

Nah, we grow mushrooms, post them and give info on what we did, and then fuckin nerds say “oh, that’s interesting” and do their own experiments with their fancy words and foresight to actually remember to label their jars.

I get ridiculously high, do cult and put the information here, where smarter better organized people can probably make more use of it than I could considering I just grow for myself and to replace cubes with nats as the most consumed psychedelic mushroom. I can’t figure em out, that’s why I’ve sent prints to people way better at cult than me.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: B H O]
    #27417439 - 08/06/21 08:29 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

But you just said you're pregnant so that's a hack imo


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #27417445 - 08/06/21 08:37 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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But you just said you're pregnant so that's a hack imo




Lmao. I meant that my wife is pregnant 😂
I was just super stuck reading this fire with Multi, p9, and all the other TC talking about this mono-di and di-di shit and couldn’t notice my prego princess was calling for my help 😂


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: B H O]
    #27417458 - 08/06/21 08:51 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #27417483 - 08/06/21 09:15 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Haha you're probably not wrong, I bring up the holocaust way too much in conversations and sometimes force people I've just met to read my speculative erotic fan-fiction for the hit drama series Mad Men. Why hide what you feel if it's a little pretentious, a little stupid, a little hokey, a tad offputting. Certain lines are best to leave uncrossed for personal moral reasons but I honestly feel a little pretentiousness isn't so much a bad thing. If it pushes one to explore niche subjects, some expected eye rolling is a fair trade. I think it crosses a line when it picks on certain traits like social/economic class, intelligence levels, and college degrees but taste in media? Curiosity or lack thereof? Love of science and literature? Idk, I guess my having a lack of problem with that could mean I'm quite autistic but like you said, it's a good place for that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: multifractal] * 4
    #27417491 - 08/06/21 09:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

can yall take this to a journal and get back to mush cult here please


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27417511 - 08/06/21 09:41 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I am just realizing, as someone who grows strictly for personal use, that getting into agar and grain means I can very easily grow entirely too many mushrooms way too fast.

At least with pf tek you had to do do quite a bit of work to get a decent supply, and with MS whole rice you had to deal with high failure rates.
Just my test run of grain prep is going to be a couple years supply if it turns out.

Maybe I shouldn't have gotten into agar and grain if I want to actually do mycology for more than two months every couple years.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Abyssinian]
    #27417522 - 08/06/21 09:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You could always produce food for yourself and your family by growing edibles, or you could grow medicinal species like reishi or turkey tails.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Abyssinian]
    #27417524 - 08/06/21 09:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

If only you could use mushrooms to grow mushrooms (other than through cloning). I too struggle with this issue so I've been trying to find uses for my surplus fruit. I've tried using them as an additive to agar with no exceptional results and have toyed around with the idea of pasteurizing substrate material containing mushroom flour but that might be a recipe for contamination. I've also made slurries of wet cubensis to spill everywhere in cow pastures but haven't noticed much from that yet haha.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 3
    #27417533 - 08/06/21 09:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I now have:
Cubes, Pans, Tamps, Azzie, and Cyans
Rieshi, Lions Mane
Oyster, Kings, Wild Oyster, Pioppino, and Maitake
Keeps me busy year-round.
I am an amateur mycologist, full time farmer.
I don't take traditional notes in a journal, but I do share my work here. It's science, just amateur.

If you were preparing for doomsday, do you really think you have enough stockpiled? Who's to say when shit hits the fan and we have to live fallout style or something. Gourmets can be dried if need be should you really not wanna do any commerce for some reason.

A vac-pack of mush reminds me of a bag of freeze-dried soup mix. Can never have too much.


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