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mushpunx
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PinPornProducer said: That's how I used to do it but I'd get mold growing on top of the sfds between it and the lid because of the micro climate it created
Really? I'll check underneath a couple of mine, but I've never had that problem before.
Using the SFDs with a metal band/lid makes a tighter seal but I prefer the one piece lid
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Thedillestpickle
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushpunx]
#24127168 - 02/28/17 09:07 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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931 is theQuote:
mushpunx said:
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PinPornProducer said: That's how I used to do it but I'd get mold growing on top of the sfds between it and the lid because of the micro climate it created
Really? I'll check underneath a couple of mine, but I've never had that problem before.
Using the SFDs with a metal band/lid makes a tighter seal but I prefer the one piece lid
Yea I had a similar problem. maybe not mold, but it looked pretty nasty on some of them. I melt a hole in the plastic lids and squish a small circle of SFD onto the melted plastic rather than gluing it down with silicone.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#24127181 - 02/28/17 09:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: I know people dont modify plastic lids they just leave them a bit loose after inoculation
Muda says he closes them up after inoculation, only leaving the lid loose for PC run to not crush containers. Necessary to note that he does that with LI/LC because it colonizes fast enough to not require GE.
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ComebackKid
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Cron mentioned he has been experimenting with no GE with grain lately as well. Speaking of Cron.... haven't seen him on the boards in a while
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Munchauzen


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#24127273 - 02/28/17 09:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Cron mentioned he has been experimenting with no GE with grain lately as well. Speaking of Cron.... haven't seen him on the boards in a while
i know this started with talk of plastic lids...
but ive used unmodded metal lids for a long time and have accidentally left many of them fulled sealed. they definitely need GE. without it, they stop growing a couple days later when the gas levels are out of balance. grains def need ge...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#24127316 - 02/28/17 10:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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True, do you think its possible that plastic lids may allow a small amount of GE even fully closed? Or maybe I just misinterpreted an old post of his
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Munchauzen


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#24127325 - 02/28/17 10:11 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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they might. i have some plastic lids and about 40 quarts of grain jars, so i'll try it out and let you know.
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PinPornProducer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
#24127326 - 02/28/17 10:12 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mp Tape ftw
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Pastywhyte
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Plastic lids are often not even watertight. They might provide a tiny bit of GE when on tight. Some species need less GE during colonization.
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stareatclouds
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Yeah, I still never understood why we can use surgical tape for petri dishes but not grain jars. I think it was because of the fear of grains sticking to the underside, but another layer beneath could fix it. Probably wears out way easier and isn't worth doing when SFDs are so cheap then.
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Plastic lids are often not even watertight. They might provide a tiny bit of GE when on tight. Some species need less GE during colonization.
This is my main issue with plastic lids. Water leaks from them. Should it worry me when doing G2G into a receiving jar with a plastic lid that the shake may yank contaminants in through the lid?
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Munchauzen


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stareatclouds said: Yeah, I still never understood why we can use surgical tape for petri dishes but not grain jars.
actually, its pretty simple. grains put off a lot more gasses, so the load on your filters is much higher. the extra stress on the filter from the increased load will cause performance issues.
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PinPornProducer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds] 1
#24127454 - 02/28/17 10:58 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like the mp tape because I'm using new filter material every time. I buy cases of it pretty cheap on amazon. I've broken down the price of materials per tub and it's way under $5 per tub. Under $5 to produce 12-16 zips of mush is a pretty good deal. Excluding the 1 time price of tubs, jars, pc etc...
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#24127464 - 02/28/17 11:03 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: actually, its pretty simple. grains put off a lot more gasses, so the load on your filters is much higher. the extra stress on the filter from the increased load will cause performance issues.
Word, makes sense.
Speaking of agar: how bad of plates do you guys try and save? My old APE plate I just made transfers from exploded with white growth like 5x faster than all my other plates. I'm 100% sure it's bacteria. I think I'm seeing green in one. Is it even worth trying to transfer with something sporulating?
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Fyreflye
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Hey guys. I am new to posting on the forum, but I have been lurking, researching, studying, searching, reading and watching videos about mushroom cultivation here and elsewhere for over a year now. Someone is getting ready to start their first grow. It is B+. I was wondering if anyone used the PF tek with good experiences using coir. Not the block coir but the gardening coir that isn't compressed and still a bit moist and separated. If so, what are some good search queries to find a good recipe using this kind? I have been searching everywhere trying to find my answer, but maybe looking in the wrong places? So now I have just resulted in making my first post here to ask this question.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fyreflye] 1
#24127503 - 02/28/17 11:20 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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gardening coir is no bueno. i really can't stress enough how much you should avoid it. absolutely do not use it. it is treated with molds because plants love molds. fungis hate molds. DO NOT USE horticultural coir. only reptile bedding.
if you want to do pf-tek with coir, you must use the bricked stuff. suck it up and goto Petco or Petsmart and buy the 3pack. its $10.
as for the recipe
1 brick coir 2 quarts verm 1 cup gypsum 1 gallon boiling water
this makes a shitload. but it will keep for weeks, even months, at room temp. if i had to guess, it would probably make over 100 pf-cakes. anywho
NEXT
measure out 5 jars worth of the coir, verm, and gypsum mixure you just created after it has cooled down. add 1 cup of brown rice flower to that and mix it thoroughly. pour that back into your 5 pf-tek jars and continue on with the tek.
good luck! just ask if you have any more questions. this is a pretty non-standard approach but I have personally done it and it will work with a high rate of success, so long as you follow good sterile technique.
Edited by Munchauzen (02/28/17 11:29 PM)
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Moabfighter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#24127540 - 02/28/17 11:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's tax season, and I have a tiny bit of money to spend on bullshit. I have the big PC coming, got new jars and lids. My SAB currently is a 50qt monotub duct taped up with arm holes added. Once I get half way to the end of a quart jar, it's hard to dump the rest. I'm gonna get a new larger SAB.
Could someone make me lids 10 for $30?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter] 1
#24127548 - 02/28/17 11:50 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll make you 100 lids for $300 if you send me a box with the materials and a return box and return shipping.
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Kenetic
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#24127741 - 03/01/17 05:02 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushpunx
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#24127847 - 03/01/17 07:00 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: It's tax season, and I have a tiny bit of money to spend on bullshit. I have the big PC coming, got new jars and lids. My SAB currently is a 50qt monotub duct taped up with arm holes added. Once I get half way to the end of a quart jar, it's hard to dump the rest. I'm gonna get a new larger SAB.
Could someone make me lids 10 for $30?
Just order 30$ worth of SFD and autoclavable plastic lids or use them between the metal lid and band with a half inch (or 4 1/8th inch holes) hole . Just order the discs that fit your jar mouths.
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Moabfighter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushpunx]
#24127852 - 03/01/17 07:05 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Set of 10 110mm lids, set of 10 1100 synthetic filter discs?
It's in the cart, that's what I need right?
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