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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27383994 - 07/12/21 07:18 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't tell anyone to do anything.

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So you told a member of 9+ years with over 3k posts how to do his experiments, of which *your* no prep wasn't included?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icpurple]
    #27384004 - 07/12/21 07:35 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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I didn't tell anyone to do anything.

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So you told a member of 9+ years with over 3k posts how to do his experiments, of which *your* no prep wasn't included?






fighting a losing battle brah, cut you  losses and go read the sticky thread :thumbup: you could use it. coffee in grains? cmon


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icpurple]
    #27384011 - 07/12/21 07:40 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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I didn't tell anyone to do anything.

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So you told a member of 9+ years with over 3k posts how to do his experiments, of which *your* no prep wasn't included?







Shit, you're right again!

Silly me...

My apologies to the rest of you, I know this bullshit isn't what you come here for... off to a rough start on Monday morning!

Here's hoping the rest of the week shapes up!

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27384014 - 07/12/21 07:41 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

:goodmorning::rolleyes:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27384017 - 07/12/21 07:44 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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:goodmorning::rolleyes:




I need to up my emoticon game... lol :cool:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27384020 - 07/12/21 07:46 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Now that's funny!

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coffee in grains? cmon





Now where's the beer for breakfast, before going to bed emoticon


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icpurple]
    #27384025 - 07/12/21 07:52 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Now that's funny!

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coffee in grains? cmon





Now where's the beer for breakfast, before going to bed emoticon



tell me one reason why you think coffee should be anywhere near a grain jar, the last time i saw someone talking about that shit was on reddit. maybe youd fit in better over there :aweohyou:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LeafyClark]
    #27384029 - 07/12/21 07:54 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

you could probably be their leader with all these no FAE experiments you got going on  :laugh2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LeafyClark]
    #27384032 - 07/12/21 07:56 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Huh?  I think you have me confused with someone else...  Coffee is for drinking, same with alcohol, doesn't belong anywhere near cult.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icpurple]
    #27384033 - 07/12/21 07:59 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

So icpurple wrote something a bit hostile in one of his posts. Can we please stop jumping on him now?

(And props for admitting a mistake, roarkell.)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icpurple]
    #27384040 - 07/12/21 08:04 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Huh?  I think you have me confused with someone else...  Coffee is for drinking, same with alcohol, doesn't belong anywhere near cult.

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tell me one reason why you think coffee should be anywhere near a grain jar






i went back and now see that it was coir you added to your jar, still, no reason for that to be in there IMO. but yeah its monday no need for all this nonsense


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LeafyClark]
    #27384047 - 07/12/21 08:11 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I can not give you one good reason for it but I can give you three.

1. Makes it easier to break up the grains after PC.
2. Gets the mycelium accustomed to the source so it goes after it when spawned.
3. (I knew there was a third) Because they're easier to break up you can get more grain into each jar.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icpurple]
    #27384053 - 07/12/21 08:15 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Well, I can not give you one good reason for it but I can give you two.

1. Makes it easier to break up the grains after PC.
2. Gets the mycelium accustomed to the source so it goes after it when spawned.




I bet if I put rocks in my jar they'd break up easier too...

Mycelium doesn't "eat" coir... the grains are your source of nutrition...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27384059 - 07/12/21 08:17 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Why are you quoting "eat"?

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Well, I can not give you one good reason for it but I can give you two.

1. Makes it easier to break up the grains after PC.
2. Gets the mycelium accustomed to the source so it goes after it when spawned.




I bet if I put rocks in my jar they'd break up easier too...

Mycelium doesn't "eat" coir... the grains are your source of nutrition...




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27384065 - 07/12/21 08:20 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

if you prep your grain right they should shake freely right out the PC :thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LeafyClark]
    #27384071 - 07/12/21 08:22 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

idk, just kinda seems like an unneeded step to me, if you do the other simple things right


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LeafyClark]
    #27384080 - 07/12/21 08:30 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Just something I tried, I've gone all the way now, doing 4:1 JARS compost:grain.  2 PC rounds and possibly a third.  first round nocked 16 jars with LC from the fridge.  This current round will be LC that has been on a shelf for a couple months.  and still debating whether I want to use my 6 month old multispore plates to nock up some grain jars just for the hell of it.

These 4:1 compost:grain jars I've never heard of being done before.  I'm doing it now, because I want to.  The result I get is the result I get, just because I said I'm doing it doesn't mean I'm going to share the results, good or bad, because it is something I want to do to try and better my situation.


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I've got a goddam doctorate in gaslighting so there's not a fucking snowball's chance in hell you'll pull that shit off on me.


Edited by icpurple (07/12/21 11:10 AM)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LeafyClark]
    #27384088 - 07/12/21 08:34 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

People get stuck in the dogma around here.
There is no "right" way to do this. If it grows him mushrooms it's the right way.
I've been adding verm to my grain for a year or two.
People have said "it's a crutch. Properly prepped grain doesn't need verm."
But it makes beautiful spawn with a ton of inoculation points, eliminates the drying step of grain prep, and lets me pour lc with a heavy hand.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icpurple]
    #27384090 - 07/12/21 08:36 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Just something I tried, I've gone all the way now, doing 4:1 compost:grain.  2 PC rounds and possibly a third.  first round nocked 16 jars with LC from the fridge.  This current round will be LC that has been on a shelf for a couple months.  and still debating whether I want to use my 6 month old multispore plates to nock up some grain jars just for the hell of it.


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I've got a goddam doctorate in gaslighting so there's not a fucking snowball's chance in hell you'll pull that shit off on me.




Not sure what I'm pulling off on you dude...

my biggest pet peeve is people with bad info... I come on here to help new people get started, if you want to re-hash every experiment this collective community has done (and documented), then by all means... so when you come to the general discussion thread with bad info and antiquated practices, you're gonna have a bad time.


Edited by roarkell (07/12/21 08:36 AM)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27384104 - 07/12/21 08:45 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't ever think of coir to reduce clumping. That does sound useful if I do millet again.

Speaking of dogma: cubes have enzymes to eat wood: both cellulose and lignin. It's not their favorite food, but they manage. I'd be very surprised if they don't eat coir. (Yes, almost everyone says that, but it's one of those things I've never read evidence for.) (discussion link about wood)

All we know is that coir doesn't contain significant fats/carbs. But it is organic and flammable, right? So it's certainly nutritive to an organism that can handle it.

IMO since mycelia colonize it and we know it is organic, our base assumption should be that it is nutritive until someone gives us strong evidence otherwise.


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