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SpaceBaby
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27380972 - 07/09/21 06:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: Np man. Don't be afraid to ask these questions in the thread, it could benefit everyone.
That's why I do ask them in the threads. Got schooled by Josex. Didn't have to get to butthurt.
If I think it's something that has a time factor I do PM one of you with the post url. Figure that's a way I can let you know but still benefit the rest of the crew.
So We ate and soon I'll get ready for the PC cycle.
Thanks again p9 [and the rest of you helpful cultists].
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A.k.a
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27380976 - 07/09/21 06:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Generally if the plate is clean after 4-5 days I’m good with it.
But, I hate testing lc. What I eventually settled on was using untested lc to make one or two grain jars and then if those are clean g2g. Plus I know the lc is good for next time.
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cutie
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27380983 - 07/09/21 06:29 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Guess I’ll try the “dont fuck with it” idea… hopefully the water on surface is not an issue
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Crackatoa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27381000 - 07/09/21 06:35 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Generally if the plate is clean after 4-5 days I’m good with it.
But, I hate testing lc. What I eventually settled on was using untested lc to make one or two grain jars and then if those are clean g2g. Plus I know the lc is good for next time.
 Exactly what I do Testing just feels like a contam vector and I'm lazy
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SpaceBaby
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
#27381008 - 07/09/21 06:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crackatoa said:
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A.k.a said: Generally if the plate is clean after 4-5 days I’m good with it.
But, I hate testing lc. What I eventually settled on was using untested lc to make one or two grain jars and then if those are clean g2g. Plus I know the lc is good for next time.
 Exactly what I do Testing just feels like a contam vector and I'm lazy
I just poured all 10 of my first millet jars with untested agar wedge LC because, no good fucking reason. But I haven't yet tried g2g so it would be as big a crapshoot, I mean additional vector , while having the shrooms school me.
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LeafyClark
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cutie]
#27381131 - 07/09/21 08:52 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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cutie said: Been having trouble reading the conditions on my monotubs and adjusting accordingly… seems like my monotubs just get downright soaked with moisture even when i put it straight to what I assume is “high FAE conditions”. While it’s colonizing, even if I have the lid cracked pretty decently and a fan on in the room, the tub will get downright soaked to the point where the lid drips water and needs to be wiped daily, and outside the liner the tub will fill with like an inch of water or so. Below you will see a picture of one of my modded tubs, this tub has had its lid cracked and slightly ajar in addition to the FAE holes.

Then, when I start fanning with the lid to encourage the evaporation of this shitton of water and hopefully get pins, I manage to dry out my substrate and abort my dank pinset. This happens when I do unmodded or the standard 6 hole monotub. Below you will see a picture of a tub that has been in the same room as the other tub, only this tub is unmodded and is already fruiting.

I’m under the impression that you increase FAE during the fruiting stage and are supposed to have low FAE in the beginning. Yet my shit gets ridiculously soaked in the beginning, seemingly requiring more FAE to reduce humidity, only to dry up as if the fruiting stage now has too much FAE. If anyone has simple advice or tips to de-noob my process please let me know.
go less water on your coir prep, that solved all my problems, now i can just leave my shit alone.
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SpaceBaby
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LeafyClark]
#27381202 - 07/09/21 10:07 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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LeafyClark said:
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cutie said: Been having trouble reading the conditions on my monotubs and adjusting accordingly… seems like my monotubs just get downright soaked with moisture even when i put it straight to what I assume is “high FAE conditions”. While it’s colonizing, even if I have the lid cracked pretty decently and a fan on in the room, the tub will get downright soaked to the point where the lid drips water and needs to be wiped daily, and outside the liner the tub will fill with like an inch of water or so. Below you will see a picture of one of my modded tubs, this tub has had its lid cracked and slightly ajar in addition to the FAE holes.

Then, when I start fanning with the lid to encourage the evaporation of this shitton of water and hopefully get pins, I manage to dry out my substrate and abort my dank pinset. This happens when I do unmodded or the standard 6 hole monotub. Below you will see a picture of a tub that has been in the same room as the other tub, only this tub is unmodded and is already fruiting.

I’m under the impression that you increase FAE during the fruiting stage and are supposed to have low FAE in the beginning. Yet my shit gets ridiculously soaked in the beginning, seemingly requiring more FAE to reduce humidity, only to dry up as if the fruiting stage now has too much FAE. If anyone has simple advice or tips to de-noob my process please let me know.
go less water on your coir prep, that solved all my problems, now i can just leave my shit alone.
It's the art part of cult. Me, I had to go to about about 5.25:1a to get my coir to FC.
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Lenz
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27381262 - 07/09/21 11:01 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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You mean you'd test it, it'd look clean, then you'd see something pop up on the plates 2 weeks later Feaso?
And I feel similarly about testing the LC, if I'm opening it I want to use it then and there but I figured if I have a couple PC'd inoculation loops wrapped in foil at all times there shouldn't be much risk opening it real quick, tilting the jar and then just dipping the loop in. Completely sterile loop for peace of mind and tilting the jar so I don't have to reach over the jar or get the handle/fingers anywhere near the mouth of the jar.
I really wanted to just cut out grain jars completely for the simplicity of 1 LC to 5 bags but yeah G2G might be the better option here AKA now that I'm thinking about it and I'd only ever really need to run a few grain jars every week to have enough G2G material. Plus less of a chance for contam doing one jar to 2 bags compared to keeping one LC open for the time it takes to pour and seal 5 bags. I'm just so bad at keeping tight track of the schedule for this kind of thing, gotta sit down and color code this shit tonight or something lol so I can make sure things get done on time.
Cool cool, thanks for the thoughts, gonna be a late one tn.
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D3_Myc
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion *DELETED* [Re: Lenz] 3
#27381280 - 07/09/21 11:31 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27381301 - 07/09/21 11:53 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now that my melmak jars are fully colonized, every single one is showing metabolites. All the LCs looked clear.
Ok...... Imma toss everything out cept the three Ape LCs i made yesterday (Each one was carefully inoculated inside my sab using a small wedge bout half the size of my pinky nail), and the batch of Melmak jars i inoculated yesterday cuz i knw them grains are sterile. So if they come up fucked i'll knw it was the LCs.
Maybe for injections im suppose to rub an actual alcohol swab on the SHIP for a timed 30sec, instead of using an alcohol soaked paper towel counting to 15sec. I dnt thnk getting the needle white fucking hot and waiting a whole 10sec b4 plunging it into the SHIP is causing me contamination issues. I wouldnt thnk so but is it an issue i do this outside my sab?
Dnt thnk it's the plates. I have a 1% contamination rate pouring plates. Two weeks after i pour and wrap 100 of them fuckers, one will pop up with something. The plates that i been using for these LCs have been sitting clean for two months.
If the Ape LCs turn out dirty, im stumped. Like seriously stumped. There is nothing about anything up to this point with them that even barely raises any red flags for me.
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Camera93
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: D3_Myc]
#27381323 - 07/10/21 12:22 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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D3monic said: Apollo Rust

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gone-pear-shaped
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#27381332 - 07/10/21 12:29 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are there any good teks about how to take notes for easy access and analysis later? I'm thinking paper notes (plus labeled/dated photos stored separately). Each note will correspond to a label (in the title) and it will refer to an earlier note for the lineage of the project, like the bulk spawn notes will refer to the notes about the G2G or jar inoculation or whatever. So for instance, observations about fruit could be tracked back all the way to the labeled petri dishes and the lineages they came from.
It's just a pain in the ass. Harder than the shroomery journal feature, but easier to refer to later.
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Lenz
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That sucks Feaso how bad are the metabolites? Not worth spawning? Can't speak to SHIPs as I've never used em but I'd imagine it's probably the SHIP or some minutiae in your sterile tek since it seems pretty unlikely that it's your plates as you stated. Maybe it'd be worthwhile to inject half the LC as you've been doing thru the SHIP and then pour the other half to see if both groups turn out the same?
Pear shaped, I was doing this for a while but I mostly gave it up as it wasn't really worth the time and energy for me. If you're into data analysis and keeping meticulous notes and such it could be cool but for me I wasn't really gaining much by it as I wasn't really doing anything with the numbers or all the referential data.
I like the idea of notes referring to earlier notes and so on in paper but the way I did it was with a spreadsheet. One single spreadsheet contains multiple different sheets, from Agar Pours to Jar Prep to Jar Inoculation to Coir Prep to Spawn. Almost every element had an alphanumeric ID to track it, so all the agar poured in one session would get an ID and all the jars prepped in a single PC run would get an ID and all the jars inoculated in a session would get an ID and so on. By the time you inoculate jars you'd have the Jar Prep ID and the Agar ID attached to the jars you inoculated, and then when you spawned those jars you'd be able to attach all the prior history of that jar and that agar inoculant to that specific tub to trace it back exactly. Or so that was the plan. I figured it'd be helpful in case I ran into a serious contam issue or if I just wanted to keep track of patterns more broadly but it was a lot more work than it was worth for me lol, at the end of the day I didn't get much out of knowing exactly what kind of plate these fruits came from and so on. Too much for me to keep track of as you could really try and track every unique element of the grow but it gets out of hand kind of fast when you're trying to grow bulk at the same time.
Could be cool to revisit and I think there could be some interesting information to be gleaned by meticulously tracking this data and the results but that's definitely not gonna be me for the time being. Would rather learn by observation and doing at this point.
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multifractal
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27381387 - 07/10/21 02:19 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey yall. I know this really isnt the place for it but I'm on the tail end of about 9 grams of cubes right now and just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate you guys putting up with me and all. i love you guys and we're all a part of that same, wisecracking and humorous in the face of imminent death, beautiful species. do yourself a favor and put your arms around yourself. tell you that you love you and that you just want whats best for you. remind you that you will always be there for you.
ok, probably gonna get banned for this but that's cool folks. im not here to rant and rave and make a distraction, just a blip in the midst of the usual chat and nothing more.
cya.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: multifractal]
#27381390 - 07/10/21 02:21 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gotta love that afterglow.
Hope you had a nice time Multifractal
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27381397 - 07/10/21 02:38 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Multifractal - Fuckin A!
Lenz - Yeah idk. Was laying here in the dark thnking bout them ships and the movements surrounding the actual inoculation. There are a few small things imma change with these Ape LCs.
Wonder if hitting the ship with a torch for a brief period of time wud sanitize the surface without melting/warping it or setting it on fire. Wonder if im chasing my tail.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
#27381401 - 07/10/21 02:47 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mr. Mushie said: Gotta love that afterglow.
Hope you had a nice time Multifractal 
For real always love when I'm coming down but still feel all the love haha. Also I'm quite certain you won't get banned multi don't worry. I'm glad ythan made this site and I'm glad it's still up and running all these years later. Especially glad all these knowledgeable folks share what they know and can teach someone that knows nothing about mushrooms how to grow pounds in a lot less then a year. Pretty cool to see!
Question that I'll throw out there though. I just had a shoebox of PEU start fruiting but my lanta was it slow. I had heard peu was slow but has anyone that's grown it had it be like 45 days from spawn to harvest? I had basically given up after not even seeing pins by day 30 but finally am getting a few mushrooms popping up. My casing layer had a few dryer spots when I checked it after some pins popped up but it was still pretty moist and a decent climate the whole time it seems. I misted now but ya spawned on 6-1 and probably won't harvest em for a few days still. Crazy slow strain for me.
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multifractal
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
#27381436 - 07/10/21 05:38 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by multifractal (07/10/21 05:47 AM)
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: multifractal] 1
#27381454 - 07/10/21 06:08 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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hit up bods journal or my i hate mushboy party thread if you wanna post bizarre thoughts at odd hours of the day
i live for bach - fox mulder
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#27381471 - 07/10/21 06:36 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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He isn’t talking about assholes though
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