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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: psh]
    #27354500 - 06/18/21 10:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Clones can be bunk also. They really need to be tested. Although, there are some varieties such as PE and its crosses that you can count on for potency.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27354545 - 06/18/21 10:47 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I wish I had researched more before ordering spores. Going to wait until I'm not growing to order more, probably this Winter.

My plan is to clone the biggest fruits from several different tubs, then test the gen2 harvests for potency, move forward to gen3 with the most potent batches, then slant gen3's biggest fruits. This is the best way unless I try my luck breeding, right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: psh]
    #27354546 - 06/18/21 10:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Yes. Take clone tissue and put it on agar. Make sure you label everything properly. Then test each mushroom for potency and fruit the winners.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27354551 - 06/18/21 10:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet. Thanks again.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: psh]
    #27354887 - 06/19/21 07:28 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I’ve done...a lot of different grows since I mostly do shoeboxes of different cultures.


Only once that I know of I had totally bunk shrooms. Like felt nothing from an eighth. So it’s extremely rare to get totally unusable shrooms.


And once you get into cult you don’t need to worry about rationing them so you can always just take more if they’re on the weak side.

No more trying to figure out what size doses you want to divvy up your stash into :dancer:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27354929 - 06/19/21 08:10 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

My second grow out of like 30 grows I ended up with completely useless mushrooms, they were south american I believe.  I spent a LOT of time worrying/reading and began to think maybe most good mushrooms had to be isolates people more knowledgeable than me worked on.  I ordered another variety and have never had problems since.


It was actually this batch pictured below, they grew some monsters but almost zero potency

   


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
    #27355343 - 06/19/21 03:09 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the reassurance. I guess I haven't tripped enough. Only tried about 10-15 times and only hit a lvl 3 trip 4 times. My strongest trip was the lowest dose I took(2g), my highest dose (6g) was a very mild trip with no visuals. I started prepping my tea with less water and got better results, but I still just want a more reliable/consistent trip.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: psh]
    #27355344 - 06/19/21 03:10 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Are you taking drugs that affect your serotonin like an SSRI or something similar?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27355352 - 06/19/21 03:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Nah. I shared them with a few family members and they had the same experience as well - tripped about half the time.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: psh]
    #27355354 - 06/19/21 03:22 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Balls.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27356185 - 06/20/21 08:45 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Ready to swab? (Avery's Albino x Melmak):



The gills turning blue is a sign to me they are ready to harvest and should have produced spores. I might just swab the fck out of both caps, make some agar, swab it and see if something grows, then it's marketplace time... :mushroom2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27356356 - 06/20/21 11:37 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Yes. Take clone tissue and put it on agar. Make sure you label everything properly. Then test each mushroom for potency and fruit the winners.



Do you have any tips on testing for potency? Do you get a clearer picture with a small dose or a big one?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
    #27356376 - 06/20/21 11:58 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Eat a gram


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Vinci]
    #27356378 - 06/20/21 11:59 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27356441 - 06/20/21 12:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I like doing smaller fresh samples. I'll eat 10g fresh and see how I feel. You'll know if it's worth keeping:awesomenod:

Every so often i'll eat that 10g fresh clone sample and all the sudden ....:tripnoob:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27356444 - 06/20/21 12:39 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

So when you bioassay, would you say you can't tell a small difference, but you will discover the PEs and the duds?

Also, do you modify the dose based on your expected tolerance, i.e., when did you last trip?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
    #27356447 - 06/20/21 12:41 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Kinda.

When I clone hunt I want that small dose to fuck me up whereas normally maybe I'd barely feel anything.

Tolerance is user specific imo so do whatever works for you.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27356460 - 06/20/21 12:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Do you make tea out of the freshies or just munch em? That taste fucks me up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27356461 - 06/20/21 12:53 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

That’s the problem with running a ton of cultures, no time to test them all.


I usually take 3-4g for a real trip and 1g is definitely a good test dose. It’s enough to get a really good idea of what they’re like without taking over the whole night. Most of the time. Like mushboy said sometimes you get those face melters.


My first PE experience was a 1g “tester” that rivaled a lot of 3g doses I’ve had.


Coffee grinder to caps is the only way I take shrooms these days.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27356490 - 06/20/21 01:14 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Always tea. I only dose with teas.


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