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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27349009 - 06/15/21 09:20 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i got poly lids bro
and ya that grain prep is fucked my wife would throw the colander of oats at me if i dried them in the fridge.
take your freshly boiled oats and immediately dump them out and spread them on a screen. a simple screen door works fine.
ready to jar up before you can gather all the fucking jars.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27349019 - 06/15/21 09:25 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks guys. Been using whole SFDs between metal lid and ring. No RTV. If not SFDs then polyfill or MP?
I'll keep us all posted, no doubt, on the most recent oat jars/huatla progress. Will research WBS, wheat, rye berries.
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DERRAYLD said: Odd check your filters in that case, also confirm your grain prep is good.
SFDs from The Mycologist in Olympia WA - not a sponsor. I can't imagine they are not good.
I'm hearing get the fuck away from oats, but I do like the difficulty  Definitely boiled right and dried well. I extended the drying on the most recent batch of jars and noccd them with clean [T3or4] Huatla agar wedges.
This last batch of oats I dried for even more hours, this time a thin layer over about a 15 sq ft area move about regularly on a tarp and then put in collanders in the fridge overnight.
That said, 30-quarts of oats colonizing not withstanding, I am way new at this.
Thought I might try another grain. Lots of WBS talk lately, but RR vid is on rye berries. Is his exact TEK in his grain-prep video still considered current or is it outdated?
On a general note, I love so many of the names we pick...
SFDs are not fail safe. Been screwed before by them. Spent a year changing every aspect of my cult and the filters were the last thing I checked cause they were SFDs and I didnt think they could possibly be it.
Lotta work for a grain prep. Switch to wheat and accept wheats loving grace brother
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Willing to bet most cases of filter failure is actually old, defective or poorly applied silicone, glue or whatever you used.
Stuffed poly ftw, or else, whole sfd for 2 pieces lids.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH] 1
#27349021 - 06/15/21 09:26 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm hearing get the fuck away from oats, but I do like the difficulty 
You don't want that kind of challenge and even less when you're starting. Getting a canopy should be your goal, that's plenty challenging for a beginner.
If a batch of grain is giving you shit is going to keep giving you shit no matter what you do and switching grain could make a world of a difference and will also help in ruling out bad inoculant as the likely source of your problems. .
Also, new growers should try a bunch of shit to know where their niche is, blindly sticking to something is not the way to go imo.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27349031 - 06/15/21 09:34 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushboy said: i got poly lids bro
and ya that grain prep is fucked my wife would throw the colander of oats at me if i dried them in the fridge.
take your freshly boiled oats and immediately dump them out and spread them on a screen. a simple screen door works fine.
ready to jar up before you can gather all the fucking jars.

fuckin a, mushboy.
lol, the fuckton of $ i have dumped into tis personal use hobby is whack. i started adding it up and didn't get that far before i threw up in my mouth a bit. 
got a window sreen...doesn't hold 2100 grams [pre-prep] oats. now I can go to lowes and get screening and lumber. going now to measure large glass shower stall in lab bathroom, which gets no use but grain stuff. 
at least it's all fun. so far.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27349036 - 06/15/21 09:38 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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the screen im using is literally from my front storm door. it holds 2 batches of grain for me which is about 14 myco quarts. i should weigh shit...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27349048 - 06/15/21 09:44 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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SpaceBaby said: I have, so far, 24 shoeboxes spawned over 4 days.

I just have lids on, unlatched. Will the weight of the stack reduce FAE too much? Is there anything I should do to adjust the FAE?

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Your gonna want to shuffle those around a lot. I ran shoeboxes for a while and when I was up and running had 50+ going at once. You need to rotate them everyday if not more but no matter how much you do you will run into problems from all the heat created. I found it best to give them lots of FAE and mist often to replace the water lost. If you leave the lids latched you will get a lot of water pooling on the surface from the temp swings and that will fuck up your pin set. There was a point I found less is more. I’d run what you have room for and get 2oz per quart of spawn instead of doubling or tripling your work load and only getting 1oz per. They really don’t stack well but it certainly can be done if you babysit them and dance a bit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#27349050 - 06/15/21 09:47 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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2 5gal buckets hydrated turns into one big colander full. My homemade screen holds this quite evenly for drying when necessary.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27349136 - 06/15/21 10:55 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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SpaceBaby said: I have, so far, 24 shoeboxes spawned over 4 days.

I just have lids on, unlatched. Will the weight of the stack reduce FAE too much? Is there anything I should do to adjust the FAE?

TYIA
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Your gonna want to shuffle those around a lot. I ran shoeboxes for a while and when I was up and running had 50 going at once. You need to rotate them everyday if not more but no matter how much you do you will run into problems from all the heat created. I found it best to give them lots of FAE and mist often to replace the water lost. If you leave the lids latched you will get a lot of water pooling on the surface from the temp swings and that will fuck up your pin set. There was a point I found less is more. I’d run what you have room for and get 2oz per quart of spawn instead of doubling or tripling your work load and only getting 1oz per. They really don’t stack well but it certainly can be done if you babysit them and dance a bit.
Thanks and yeah. The pinsets are starting to pop well on the ones living, unstacked, in the bedroom, that I noccd spawned 06/07. T'hey are in 'Post your Cult Pic of the Day.'
CAN I PUT THESE FUCKERS ON THE FLOOR?? really don't want to build a 200 sq ft platform to get em away from contams. I know Bod put a mono on the floor...
In the interim, to increase Fae I fold in on side of the clasp, undr the lid:I never latch the lids, inand now to increase FAE what I have done is close the latch under one side3 of each lid and stacked them alternating sides.


ALSO - I was drawn inexorably, like in a tractor beam, into Target the other not...ended up with Glad plastic storage bins (waiting) and three Sterilite bin with non-latching lids. Here's how I'm adding a bit of FAE [though these were just noccd on Sunday]


I AM SO GRATEFUL TO YOUSE GUYS
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27349142 - 06/15/21 10:59 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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If your shits clean, the floor should be fine. It’s preferred to elevate them but if you feel good about it, just do it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#27349155 - 06/15/21 11:14 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have run many a mono on the floor without issue.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27349188 - 06/15/21 11:46 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most of my shit is on the dirtiest floor ever. It’s more dog hair than carpet at this point.
Clean spawn doesn’t even notice.
If those tubs don’t have gaskets to seal the lid they’ll be fine, I’ve run shoeboxes stacked 6-8 high many times.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27349240 - 06/15/21 12:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Floor When I put tubs on the floor, bugs took up residence in the space around the mycelia. I lost it mid-flush to infection, but I'm not sure if the bugs played any role in that. Now I'm leaving a tight lid on and using polyfill holes. No bugs this time. The tubs are still on the floor sometimes.
Grains Millet is really nice. I assume WBS is almost as good. It gives tons of inoculation points so tub colonization speed depends mostly on how well I mix them up. They don't need any prep before sterilizing--just add the right amount of water before popping it in the PC.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27349260 - 06/15/21 12:38 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks, Mr Piggy: Got a brand, source, URL?
I am moving to all organic everything.
I'm sure there are a fuckton of TEKs for WBS.
organic is often treated with bacteria
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27349265 - 06/15/21 12:42 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mr Piggy said: WBS has never failed me. Very easy to prep and produced some AMAZING flushes.
Thanks, Mr Piggy: Got a brand, source, URL?
I am moving to all organic everything.
I'm sure there are a fuckton of TEKs for WBS.
organic is often treated with bacteria
the shit we learn!!
RR is not god, among other things.
Organic bacteria; non-organic pesticides. Great.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
#27349267 - 06/15/21 12:43 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Ok so my control plate 7 days out has zero contamination and the one plate I snapped the spore swab off into is growing mycelium but it just looks different around the left edges of this photo, is this normal looking? 2 plates did contaminate so it's user error, I think I need a rack in my SAB because when I am working with the bottom few plates I am moving funny

Anyone? Thinking I'll let this go a bit more, make new plates and transfer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27349280 - 06/15/21 12:51 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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fahtster said: If your shits clean, the floor should be fine. It’s preferred to elevate them but if you feel good about it, just do it.
Faht
All the jars have been suspected of some bacterial issues, obviously not total killers...I ran some of the jars just sittint in a mono with a bit of coir over them and got the nicest fruits I've had...also the first non-PF TEK ones.
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good, but since stacks are cool with the ungasketed shoeboxes, I have enough square footage on all the camp tables I've gotten. 
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I look forward to 7 quarts of clean spawn...one day. 
You guys think the folded under clasp on one end is excessive. I watch these babies closely...and have a way cool mister from Lowes

Okay...I'll chec more threads when I get to my art studio.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
#27349289 - 06/15/21 12:55 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Ok so my control plate 7 days out has zero contamination and the one plate I snapped the spore swab off into is growing mycelium but it just looks different around the left edges of this photo, is this normal looking? 2 plates did contaminate so it's user error, I think I need a rack in my SAB because when I am working with the bottom few plates I am moving funny

Anyone? Thinking I'll let this go a bit more, make new plates and transfer
Good plan. Sometimes I've dragged the buried swab across the plate to spread out the myc and help separate contams and stuff.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27349316 - 06/15/21 01:09 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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What's the smallest size hood y'all reccomend. I'd maybe be running some small blocks for oysters or such. My fruiting chamber is just a small green house. Could I get away with a 12x12?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#27349326 - 06/15/21 01:15 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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12x12 is just barely enough room to do jars. No way youll be doing blocks in front of a 12x12 unless theyre tiny ass blocks
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#27349342 - 06/15/21 01:24 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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So more like 12x18 or 18x18 the cost difference is only like $50 I'm more concerned with space.
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