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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fraki58]
    #27342613 - 06/10/21 09:43 AM (4 days, 17 hours ago)

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How do these look to you? This is like the 4rd flush and the caps look kinda odd, they have brownish stripes. Pic of a normal one for comparison. Big caps alert




It's mostly just spores, maybe a little mild bacterial blotch from being too wet for too long.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #27342663 - 06/10/21 10:11 AM (4 days, 16 hours ago)

APE doesn't need a casing, only PE. They usually take their time but not that long. Pics?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27342693 - 06/10/21 10:38 AM (4 days, 16 hours ago)

Yes crack thanks for chiming in. The long time passed is what worried me also, here some pics.


Tub 1


Tub 2:


I don't know if my camera captured all the knots but there are plenty of them, specially in the blotched tub
What do you suspect it could be the issue?
Next time I'll definitely drop the casing for next time:thumbup: maybe it was a vector of contamination or something (but idk, with pans this same recipe worked me wonders:confused:)

Edit: just to add something more. I forgot to mention the sub is 10cm deep (4inch). Maybe it helps in addition it's 1:1 ratio :lol: maybe should I change also those parameters?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27342784 - 06/10/21 11:29 AM (4 days, 15 hours ago)

Those white blobs of mycelium are concerning. I'm thinking you've got contams there.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27342818 - 06/10/21 11:48 AM (4 days, 15 hours ago)

Yeah... theres definitely something else going on there... APEs aren't that slow for me... they usually only lag about a week behind everything else.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27342830 - 06/10/21 11:59 AM (4 days, 14 hours ago)

Oh that's good to know thanks for the information guys.
If these doesn't move in one more week i'll throw them.. every day it pass they look more lifeless and painful to watch whenever I mist.. better let them rest in peace :lol::lol:
not much hope but gotta move on haha i'll transfer some plates tonight :smile::thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27342857 - 06/10/21 12:13 PM (4 days, 14 hours ago)

I put the bottle tek harvest photos in a cult pic thread...

This is one B+ fruit from the last flush of the cake. i'm binning it pre-trich...the cake, duh. I have one GT cake that I will harvest within the next 24-hours.



Thanks for the soothing words about the trich, Smart. :bow2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SpaceBaby]
    #27342973 - 06/10/21 01:43 PM (4 days, 13 hours ago)

Those blobs look like wet bubble that has matured fully. I've had that happen before, and after they put off their amber drops, they 'deflate' like that sometimes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Justweed]
    #27343014 - 06/10/21 02:08 PM (4 days, 12 hours ago)

So I realized I've been prepping subs wetter than I thought because the hallon jug had stretched from refilling repeatedly. Now I'm using a proper pitcher and a scale and recording measurements per tub.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27343070 - 06/10/21 02:44 PM (4 days, 12 hours ago)

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I'm having a real hard time growing APEs :mad2::mad2::mad2:
4/5 (38 days ago) I made two mini monos of about 1:1 ratio.. all from good nice clean agar, and they fully colonized at the week and knotted at about the second week.. that was good, but it seemed to stunt there, still today it's still the same. They don't seem to be fruiting.. they now with 38 days are getting old but one still seems decent, and the other one has two blotches of bacteria creeping in...
Trying to grow this shit is making me waste lots of sub :mad2::mad2::mad2:
What should I change for the next time? Does grain/sub ratio play a big role with APE?
What catches my attention is that these pins won't fruit ..:mad:

Edit: I forgot to mention I cased 50/50 Ted'sDead way.. I did it cause I heard it reduces blobbing.. next time I'll try fruiting without casing and see if that was the problem




Can be genetics you know.  I've had strains that just wouldn't fruit properly, like they were missing a big part of the game plan. :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27343140 - 06/10/21 03:25 PM (4 days, 11 hours ago)

When I grew APE from a reddit swab vendor (never again) I got some kind of revert that took nearly 2 months IIRC to fruit, it was ridiculous. After about a month and no pins I kind of just figured it was toast but I kept them around and they eventually started to fruit.

I didn't case though and if it's looking bacterial/not smelling great I'd try and up the FAE as much as you can and just be patient. I had probably like 3+ weeks from full colonization where it looked like literally nothing was happening.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
    #27343361 - 06/10/21 06:32 PM (4 days, 8 hours ago)

Ape swabs have been known to throw reverts regardless of who it's from. I'd go get a syringe.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27343370 - 06/10/21 06:45 PM (4 days, 8 hours ago)

I luv ape

Ya knw what, i got a syringe of ape from one of our most distinguished vendors... There is a large booger of white shit floating around in clear solution. I put a couple drops on plates yesterday and im still wondering how im suppose to get a culture going without dropping 100 plates till i get to the point where some fucking actual baby juice comes out.

Also, 1ml inoculation from LC to grain jar? I wud thnk at least two. 1ml doesn't even wet a grain berry let alone contain any of the floating mycelial rectal snot necessary for colonization.

What am i missing here? Jst started working with LC.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27343374 - 06/10/21 06:48 PM (4 days, 8 hours ago)

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Ape swabs have been known to throw reverts regardless of who it's from. I'd go get a syringe.




hey mush but what'd be the difference about reverts with using a syringe rather than just doing the typical a2g and then g2g and use it?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27343397 - 06/10/21 07:08 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

Word I think I did read a few posts about that at the time but didn't think it was super common/decided to be cheap. Lesson learned :rolleyes:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27343412 - 06/10/21 07:17 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

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Ape swabs have been known to throw reverts regardless of who it's from. I'd go get a syringe.




hey mush but what'd be the difference about reverts with using a syringe rather than just doing the typical a2g and then g2g and use it?




Nah, use a syringe for the genetics not swabs if you want a 100% guarantee ape. Most swabbed ape I've grown has reverted it's got nothing to do with method of inoculation.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27343414 - 06/10/21 07:19 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

Does anybody know why swabs would revert?

I remember a whole thread about ape swab reverts but never actually thought why it would be different than a syringe.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27343430 - 06/10/21 07:35 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

Am i fucking invisible?
Come on, i been half retarded the whole time. Gotta relearn shit. Sux for me too.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27343436 - 06/10/21 07:43 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

I would think that a swab should contain actual tissue along with the spores. So it sounds weird to me that they would revert. Is it a complete revert or is it a mix of ape and normal looking cubes?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27343438 - 06/10/21 07:46 PM (4 days, 7 hours ago)

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I luv ape

Ya knw what, i got a syringe of ape from one of our most distinguished vendors... There is a large booger of white shit floating around in clear solution. I put a couple drops on plates yesterday and im still wondering how im suppose to get a culture going without dropping 100 plates till i get to the point where some fucking actual baby juice comes out.

Also, 1ml inoculation from LC to grain jar? I wud thnk at least two. 1ml doesn't even wet a grain berry let alone contain any of the floating mycelial rectal snot necessary for colonization.

What am i missing here? Jst started working with LC.




To answer your question. Spores are microscopic and should essentially be throughout the syringe and not just in the clump of spores that you can see. So 1ml should be all that you need. If you are unsure, just give the syringe a good shake before using.

Edit: if using a syringe to inoculate a plate, I would literally use the smallest drop I could. 1ml for that type of application would be excessive.


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