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OfflinePrimalSoup
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27336774 - 06/05/21 09:03 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I'm doing one 1:4 in my current batch of 8 tubs because...miscounted.  :lol:  The others are somewhere around 1:2.  :waitingpatiently:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27336777 - 06/05/21 09:06 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

If you put an oven bag in a pot of hot/boiling water, does it melt? Like from touching the sides or bottom.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #27336782 - 06/05/21 09:11 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

It shouldn't. I keep big oven bags for turkey in hot water for hours to pasteurize casing.

Also spawn to sub ratio I usually go 1:3 but I noticed that some of my cultures don't really seem to benefit from the extra substrate and do just as well on 1:2.
My TOC clones for example usually don't move all that much wet weight and so I'd get pretty much the same yield from 1:2 vs 1:3. 1:3 is still nice tho...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
    #27336808 - 06/05/21 09:41 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Even if I’m wrong I bet if he switched to wheat or rye his problem would go away


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Loomy]
    #27336810 - 06/05/21 09:43 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Why, exactly, do you think that?  If you pressure cook correctly, and don't introduce contaminants, you're fine.  I used rye berries for a decade, switched to oats, will never go back.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
    #27336815 - 06/05/21 10:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

PCed over 6 months ago. They might be dry but they're not contaminated. If you prep any grain correctly you won't have issue. I do prefer wheat over any grain but I keep oats, wheat and millet on hand and use what I feel like.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27336818 - 06/05/21 10:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Wow
Hey Crack, may I ask why you have unused +6 month old grain sitting there? Is it for experimental purposes?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
    #27336823 - 06/05/21 10:05 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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It shouldn't. I keep big oven bags for turkey in hot water for hours to pasteurize casing.

Also spawn to sub ratio I usually go 1:3 but I noticed that some of my cultures don't really seem to benefit from the extra substrate and do just as well on 1:2.
My TOC clones for example usually don't move all that much wet weight and so I'd get pretty much the same yield from 1:2 vs 1:3. 1:3 is still nice tho...




If you are getting the same yield from both why wouldn't you stick with the 1:3? This would mean you are getting the same results with less grain which means better efficiency.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27336824 - 06/05/21 10:06 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I wanted to see if they would eventually contaminate. They have not. I might pour some grain in one next time I G2G.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27336830 - 06/05/21 10:12 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, I wanted to see if they would eventually contaminate. They have not. I might pour some grain in one next time I G2G.



Nice Crack, thanks :thumbup:  was planning these days to test it for myself. You saved me a ton of time :smile:

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If you are getting the same yield from both why wouldn't you stick with the 1:3? This would mean you are getting the same results with less grain which means better efficiency.



It'll vary on your costs and times. I'd do 1:2 or 1:1 sometimes because grain cost me way way way less than the substrate itself. Plus it takes less time to reach 100% colonization :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gabbk]
    #27336835 - 06/05/21 10:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

That's a good point, didn't really think of it cause my default is always just 5 myco quarts of spawn per tub. I'll clarify that yield was constant with the same amount of spawn but less sub. Coir's a bit harder for me to get than WBS anyhow.

It'd be interesting to know the relationship between the total amount of water in the substrate and the subsequent yield though. Obviously you need a large amount of water to push a heavy ass flush but I wonder how much water is wasted/unnecessary for some cultures.
A lot of my just okay TOC clones put out around 350g wet per quart at both 1:2 and 1:3, so the extra water in the sub in this case didn't do much, probably just because the genetic potential wasn't there?

Typing it out like this I guess it's pretty basic at the end of the day, a good culture will move a lot more of the available water whereas a shitty culture might just tap out at a certain yield regardless of if there's a lot more water or not.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #27336914 - 06/06/21 12:31 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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If you put an oven bag in a pot of hot/boiling water, does it melt? Like from touching the sides or bottom.





no but double bag it because it looses alot of its integrity and it can rip if theres too much weight in it.


good call crak.  good to be able to prep and use any grain incase they run out of your preffered choice


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #27337018 - 06/06/21 03:36 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Although impractical, an incredibly overhydrated jar of grain should colonize 100% eventually if inoculated axenicly. If it grows in liquid and grows through cakes then so long as you grain is not too dry it will colonize if clean. Wet jars of grain may contaminate when skaken due to wet threads.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27337147 - 06/06/21 07:31 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Wet jars of grain may contaminate when skaken due to wet threads.



Wtf are you talking about?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27337243 - 06/06/21 09:08 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Yea. Yea. Yea :lol:

I was using a true 1:2 but I got better effeciency when I cut it back 2.5:6. I actually went from pulling 1.5 oz dry per qt of spawn to pulling 2.15. Could just be a coincidence but I didn't see the point in going back.

Edit: I guess it would be better to say 1.25:3 than 2.5:6.





5:12 gets nice round numbers.




Serious question. Are round numbers what we are looking for when typing ratios?





yeah, they're easy to remember.  5:12 could be the new 1:2 especially if it ups the output. :hereyougo:





This makes me wonder why tape measure in the US aren't just read in 1/16th increments instead of 1/4, 2/3, 5/8? It is so hard to find good help that can read a tape.

I think  10/24 makes more sense. :slowreaction:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27337352 - 06/06/21 10:49 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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PCed over 6 months ago. They might be dry but they're not contaminated. If you prep any grain correctly you won't have issue. I do prefer wheat over any grain but I keep oats, wheat and millet on hand and use what I feel like.




I think I have those same slippers. Anyway, I'm having trouble pulling vacuums on my bags in my 75x (I had the same issues in my prestos, and thought a 75x might fix it - nope!). Do you have any tips? You must be getting great vacuums if they can sit that long.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RodgerRabbit]
    #27337355 - 06/06/21 10:53 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I pc bags in my aa915. I dont think it pulls a
vacuum but my test bags are 2 months old no mold.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27337360 - 06/06/21 10:55 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Are your gussets sealed when taking bags out of the pc?

If so then it pulled a vacuum. I have a 915 also and it definitely pulls a vacuum


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27337362 - 06/06/21 10:57 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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I pc bags in my aa915. I dont think it pulls a
vacuum but my test bags are 2 months old no mold.



I just recalled that the other day I autoclaved a couple bags of grain that were nicely dried and apparently they all sucked a little steam inside. I didn't notice it right away but along the days after G2Ging them. How do you prevent that? These bags are all condensed now (My first guess is that I'm folding the bags incorrectly :mad2: if so, is there any instructional video that I could follow?)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27337365 - 06/06/21 11:00 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Quirkmeister92 said:
Wet jars of grain may contaminate when skaken due to wet threads.



Wtf are you talking about?




:lol:  I had the same thought and then realized he’s probably talking about getting the poly filter (threads) wet.

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