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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287236 - 04/29/21 10:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Damn dude, make me feel like an idiot why dnt ya.
Might be better now that i have a 200qt sab with some depth.
But the thought of lc is making me hard as a rock. And once i get my mind pointed towards something, that's where im going.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27287246 - 04/29/21 10:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

That was not my intention at all. It's just, If you can do agar transfers successfully, I see no reason why you couldn't do G2G. It's a much simpler and smoother process. Dollars to doughnuts you just have some little thing wrong.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287282 - 04/29/21 10:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Was jst joshin' ya homie. Your a diplomatic man and i appreciate that.

I thnk with my 100qt sab, the bottom of the master jar wud bump into the bottom (top as i sit) of the sab changing the air pressure and whooshing in shit air at the least opportune moment. That and i notice a sharp increase in contamination when something im working with is ever over something else, say for plates. I have a 1% contam rate with plates.

Actually im looking at my jars now. Their almost fully colonized and ive found one or two little metabolite squirt drops in four so far. That shit is upsetting, but then again there are some parts of my procedure i cud tighten up. Gonma have to go get some shoeboxes 2mrrw. Told myself i wasnt ever gonna knowingly spawn contamination to a tub again. Them gst shoeboxes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27287289 - 04/29/21 11:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I'd shoe box shit with a little metabolite action if I wasn't busy with "other things" and wanted some fruits.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287291 - 04/29/21 11:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah thats my standard. Metabolites get shoeboxes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27287304 - 04/29/21 11:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Word.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27287309 - 04/29/21 11:22 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I had problems working in SAB for quite some time, but mostly my troubles would come from cutting corners. I do feel like infinitely more confident doing G2G infront of flow. As for LC, I'll try again with the lovely growth I haz meow, but G2G is fast and functional. Running >100 jars now and it's nice.

I just lined and prepared coir in 18 tubs to spawn in the morning.:smoker:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27287312 - 04/29/21 11:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Nice. You don't do bags?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287575 - 04/30/21 07:48 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I’ve actually started using lc to test clones. I make them in the half pint wide mouths with a ship. The second I can grab a sliver of clean myc I’ll drop it in the lc and then 5-7 days later it’s ready to go while the plate is still a small colony.


Plus if it turns out to be a good culture I’ve already got a nice thick month old lc of it. If not it gets flushed.


It’s also much quicker and easier imo to just suck some lc up and shoot it into a jar instead of opening the plate and dropping wedges. But really the speed and having a whole jar of the culture ready by the time it fruits is the main draw for me.


Speaking of wedges what I’ve been doing to avoid getting them stuck is to tilt the jar before I open it so that the grain sits at a slant. Then I drop the wedge in the middle and put the lid back. Then I tilt the jar again so the grain is level with the floor and gently smack the side which causes a wave of grain to cover the wedge. Once it’s coated like that you can do whatever.

I know that’s gotta be a super confusing description :uhoh:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #27287742 - 04/30/21 11:03 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I've been using agar 2 LC. Then LC 2 everything.
I pour LC into 4lb grain bags. I mean like pour 50-100ml per bag. Give it a good mix and it's ready in no time.

I love using G2G. That's fast as heck too.

I've also tried LI with blended grain spawn and sterile water. Blended and poured into bags.

I can be easy to screw it all up with one dirty move. You have to figure out the science between gravity, air flow, mold/bacteria. Learn the movements of how they could end up in your stuff.
Strategize where you put your hands and where items sit. Ect...
That's what I try to think and learn. I also use flowhood so it makes it different . Horizontal flow. I want to try vertical flow and see how many plates I botch.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27287746 - 04/30/21 11:06 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Made perfect sense.

I can see having an LC of whatever ready to go being nice. I don't think I'd bother though, when testing. Interesting idea though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27287761 - 04/30/21 11:19 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Hobbit GDF said:
I've been using agar 2 LC. Then LC 2 everything.
I pour LC into 4lb grain bags. I mean like pour 50-100ml per bag. Give it a good mix and it's ready in no time.

I love using G2G. That's fast as heck too.

I've also tried LI with blended grain spawn and sterile water. Blended and poured into bags.

I can be easy to screw it all up with one dirty move. You have to figure out the science between gravity, air flow, mold/bacteria. Learn the movements of how they could end up in your stuff.
Strategize where you put your hands and where items sit. Ect...
That's what I try to think and learn. I also use flowhood so it makes it different . Horizontal flow. I want to try vertical flow and see how many plates I botch.




How much coir are you mixing in with that grain?

I saw you post some killer melmak bags the other day.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27287831 - 04/30/21 12:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

A.k.a said:
I’ve actually started using lc to test clones. I make them in the half pint wide mouths with a ship. The second I can grab a sliver of clean myc I’ll drop it in the lc and then 5-7 days later it’s ready to go while the plate is still a small colony.


Plus if it turns out to be a good culture I’ve already got a nice thick month old lc of it. If not it gets flushed.


It’s also much quicker and easier imo to just suck some lc up and shoot it into a jar instead of opening the plate and dropping wedges. But really the speed and having a whole jar of the culture ready by the time it fruits is the main draw for me.


Speaking of wedges what I’ve been doing to avoid getting them stuck is to tilt the jar before I open it so that the grain sits at a slant. Then I drop the wedge in the middle and put the lid back. Then I tilt the jar again so the grain is level with the floor and gently smack the side which causes a wave of grain to cover the wedge. Once it’s coated like that you can do whatever.

I know that’s gotta be a super confusing description :uhoh:





Thats a pretty good idea for using LC to test clones but I just wouldn't want to have to swirl 20 jars around every day :facepalm3: All this LC talk is making me want to give it a go though.

Also someone needs to make a don't get your wedge stuck tek with pictures haha. I typically drop it in then hold upright and make a rotating jiggle motion while keeping it upright so that it kinda sinks down into the grains due to gravity.


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Looking to start growing? Read through Bod's Introduction to Everything
Looking to start agar? Start with Alien's Holy Grail
Looking to perfect your transfers? Start with D3monic's Perfect Transfers
Looking for easiest prep to Coir ever? Eat's UNBUCKET Tek
Looking to start LC? Try LI first! Munch's super easy Blenderless LI


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn]
    #27287838 - 04/30/21 12:51 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It's all about the cartwheel... for me. If the first quarter of the cartwheel is done gently, the agar doesn't stick. Unless it was made really soft.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287920 - 04/30/21 02:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

So you like, hold it then flip it to the side? I think I'm picturing it right. I'll have to give you guys methods a try haha.

Also, I'm trying to buy some more coir on amazon and mother earths for some reason says ships in 1 or 2 months instead of the usual 5 days. I also had been using one called coco bale but it's not even for sale anymore :facepalm3:

Anyone have some recommendations?


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Looking to start growing? Read through Bod's Introduction to Everything
Looking to start agar? Start with Alien's Holy Grail
Looking to perfect your transfers? Start with D3monic's Perfect Transfers
Looking for easiest prep to Coir ever? Eat's UNBUCKET Tek
Looking to start LC? Try LI first! Munch's super easy Blenderless LI


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn]
    #27287929 - 04/30/21 02:19 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I liked Cocobliss, HydroCrunch is also good but IMO wasn't as nice as Cocobliss. Cannacoir is great, what I prefer now but much cheaper to buy irl if you can find it than BezosMart.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
    #27287948 - 04/30/21 02:31 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Hey whens this corn ready to be dried?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn] * 1
    #27287951 - 04/30/21 02:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Here, i think this is how the cartwheel works. At least thats how i do it. The trick is to get a few grains on both sides of the wedge, so that it doesnt stick. Sometimes even that is not necessary. Just turn it really careful in step 2 to 3



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
    #27287963 - 04/30/21 02:44 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I tried coco bliss but it turned out really mud like for me when I used my typical water content if 3500-3700ml. Never tried hydrocrunch or cannacoir but I'll look into it. Unfortunately I dont have any hydroponic shops near me I've tried to look but no avail. I keep hearing about ecoearth but looks cheap to me.

And I love that cartwheel diagram Haha Microsoft paint for the win


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Looking to start growing? Read through Bod's Introduction to Everything
Looking to start agar? Start with Alien's Holy Grail
Looking to perfect your transfers? Start with D3monic's Perfect Transfers
Looking for easiest prep to Coir ever? Eat's UNBUCKET Tek
Looking to start LC? Try LI first! Munch's super easy Blenderless LI


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Regis]
    #27287966 - 04/30/21 02:45 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Man I got a new brand of WBS and this shit turned so dark after a PC cycle. Never seen it. My last brand (Penningtons) never did that. Here it is vs a jar of the previous brand (ignore the myc in the jar on the right. It's 36 h post shake. Just comparing the color)



What yall think? I doubt the myc will care. I have a bunch of jars to g2g so I'll find out soon enough


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