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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut] * 1
    #27287161 - 04/29/21 09:14 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I luv weed. Growin' it, smokin' it, distilling it, fucking on it. Carts, candy, and dabs. I fear no dab. However if you bind thc to a lipid like in a cookie or cake, i get every negative effect in the book. Fuck that! Jealous of yall who can drink that fire-water cuz my body & mind completely reject it.

Bout to order me some syringes for LC. Jst got more masons and a fucking radiant heater for my lab.. fucking piece of shit wall heater.
Getting a hard on for this LC shit. Jars must colonize faster.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27287166 - 04/29/21 09:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Noo no sucking air OUT of the box!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
    #27287167 - 04/29/21 09:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Negative pressure SAB


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
    #27287172 - 04/29/21 09:22 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

:willfredjoint:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
    #27287173 - 04/29/21 09:23 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, we know. Soo...sucking air out of the box draws air into the box via arm holes etc....it also Stirs the contaminates already in the box via turbulence.

The air is no longer still and has now been transformed into a turbulent air box that spins tornadoes of invisible contamination around your work area.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #27287175 - 04/29/21 09:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Ok got it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
    #27287177 - 04/29/21 09:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Look an SAB has bacteria no matter how much you spray it down. It's not a clean area it's meant to keep things still because there is no actual clean air like a flowhood has. Sucking air in or out of the box isn't going to make it any better.

You're still blowing particles around that will inevitably cause contams.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27287180 - 04/29/21 09:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Feasoghorm said:
Bout to order me some syringes for LC. Jst got more masons and a fucking radiant heater for my lab.. fucking piece of shit wall heater.
Getting a hard on for this LC shit. Jars must colonize faster.




LC is fucking great. As is G2G. Can't quite figure which I like more


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287184 - 04/29/21 09:29 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I want to get into LC but I always have so many clones to test out before I want to LC them. Seems like a waste of LC if I'm not satisfied with the cultures going in


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn]
    #27287188 - 04/29/21 09:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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lookintolearn said:
Look an SAB has bacteria no matter how much you spray it down. It's not a clean area it's meant to keep things still because there is no actual clean air like a flowhood has. Sucking air in or out of the box isn't going to make it any better.

You're still blowing particles around that will inevitably cause contams.



Sure, don't flowhoods use a hepa filter? This device has a hepa filter. I get it though, really, thanks.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287189 - 04/29/21 09:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I've been dabbling with LC.

I prefer G2G at the moment, maybe cause of how far you can stretch one colonized quart.

It feels less risky to me to make 10 master jars and expand that to 100 bags.

Might switch to LC when I get to 250 tubs.

I'm having a hard time solving the "whats the least amount of plates I can have" math problem.

I will be making spawn for a local gourmet farm now in addition to my cube projects.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn]
    #27287191 - 04/29/21 09:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Any genetic testing is best done with agar to jar (i suppose you could blend it but, i wouldn't bother). LC and G2G are for turning one agar dish into.... Something really cool. I'd say it's best to know what's going into them.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lookintolearn]
    #27287192 - 04/29/21 09:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

On another note someone awhile back said something about not fitting alot into their presto. Here's an ez no modded solution I've been using.



I just fill each tray like 5-6 inches tall with shrooms. Like I just put over 7000 wet into this 6 tray. Then cover with towel around like so and clip.



Then just wrap another towel around and clip.

Everything dries great in 24-30 hours usually, sometimes a little longer.


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Looking to start LC? Try LI first! Munch's super easy Blenderless LI


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287195 - 04/29/21 09:36 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

And yeah I figured that's why I've yet to give it a go. I've had some really good cultures performance wise but not good enough for me to want to make a LC for multiple bags of the same thing. Maybe some of these PE clones will be worthy.


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Looking to start growing? Read through Bod's Introduction to Everything
Looking to start agar? Start with Alien's Holy Grail
Looking to perfect your transfers? Start with D3monic's Perfect Transfers
Looking for easiest prep to Coir ever? Eat's UNBUCKET Tek
Looking to start LC? Try LI first! Munch's super easy Blenderless LI


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27287196 - 04/29/21 09:38 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Mr. Mushie said:
I've been dabbling with LC.

I prefer G2G at the moment, maybe cause of how far you can stretch one colonized quart.

It feels less risky to me to make 10 master jars and expand that to 100 bags.

Might switch to LC when I get to 250 tubs.

I'm having a hard time solving the "whats the least amount of plates I can have" math problem.

I will be making spawn for a local gourmet farm now in addition to my cube projects.




I've done that math. The answer is 2 per culture. Well, could be 1 but I'd rather not dive back into the slant as often so 2. A master plate in cold storage and a slave plate that comes out of cold storage from time to time to make LC. You can take a sample so small you can't see it off of that plate and make enough LC to dose the world. Use that LC to noc up however many masters you want, expand those masters to however many masters you want... (insert wayne's world "and he tells two friends" clip here), expand those to however many bags you want. Shaazam.

If you manage not to poop in your slave plate, you could make hundreds and hundreds of LCs out of that plate and those LCs could make thousands and thousands of Masters and those masters...... To infinity and beyond.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27287206 - 04/29/21 09:45 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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I’ve been in contact with a lawyer who’s on the committee that’s setting up the laws for Oregon’s legalization. It’s awesome they just had people from relevant industries and also just regular citizens appointed to the board.

Nothing’s set yet but there’s going to be permits for cultivation, the place that people trip, and then “trip guides”. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to get any price estimates yet cuz that’s for sure gonna be the issue.

Also until 2025 only people who’ve lived in Oregon for two years can apply.



I think the big difference between weed legalization and shrooms is going to be how much easier it is for any one person to produce massive quantities cheap and in super small spaces with quick turn arounds.

Imo that’s going to make things a lot different. No way could I easily produce 100 doses of weed for $5 in material and no maintenance whatsoever in a 3 square foot area.

Way more people will be doing it for personal use too. Just imagine if you could start growing significant amounts of weed for a few bucks with no lights, smells, or monitoring and in a space the size of a shoebox.





The problem with all of this anticipation should be obvious.  The market is never gonna be as large as for weed.  It's not a daily driver for most people, and the institutional approach (at least in Oregon, but fuck yeah, at least it IS an approach) will drive that potential demand way down as well.

Now, growing for personal consumption sales, that might have more legs, but still mushrooms are self limiting and the only way you'll make a buck from supplying it is to have the best shit on the planet with a recognizable brand name and serious quality control.  Even then it'd be a struggle.

But that's just my prediction and the cart is way ass forwards of the horse for anybody thinking they're "getting ready" for a consumption boom here. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287213 - 04/29/21 09:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I'll probably start a thread when I get to that size because i'd love to have people chime in with all tips related to efficiency.

I find that I spend too much time in the lab with ridiculous plate counts and it's incredibly time consuming.

I'll admit, I originally decided not to pursue LC after seeing growlog 2019 and reading about lotkid expanding 1 qt -> 18 bags.

Those captain morgan bottles you recently posted look like a solid idea for large quantities of LC.

Do you just pour a little LC into a plate to test the culture before expanding it? The idea of inserting an inoculation loop and streaking a plate has always made me nervous.

I guess I never realized the true power of one slave plate. Makes sense why dudes like Pirate and Lot would talk about only having 20-40 plates max at a time.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
    #27287219 - 04/29/21 09:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I use an inoculation loop. Flame sterilize it and use proper sterile tek and there is nothing to fear.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #27287228 - 04/29/21 10:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I have contamination issues with g2g. Dumping from one jar into another.
Lc seems far more delicate. It arouses my meticulous nature.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #27287231 - 04/29/21 10:07 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Wonder what you are doing wrong? Dumping is pretty simple. Or maybe it's like learning anything else and I've just done it enough.


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