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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
#27281682 - 04/25/21 03:35 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had a Very lucky hispanica plate that pinned in the refrigerator, but sadly, when transferred to new plates, the growth fizzed out. Pins ain't to be trusted 100% either
While another rustywhyte, pinned, fruited over a small Bacteria colony, sporulate, and then start growing again.
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Do spores have any negative effect on the sub? I’ve got a couple very annoyingly placed pins that tore their veils super early and I really don’t feel like fucking with the sub and other pins trying to just harvest these early dudes. Thinking about just letting them chill there.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LoadedFish]
#27281747 - 04/25/21 04:43 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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People usually say sporulating affects fruiting negatively, but I don't understand why or know the supposed reason.
Take them
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
#27281753 - 04/25/21 04:48 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Crackatoa said: I would go with clone tissue over spore
I had a lot of bad luck trying to do fruit-cloning, spread lots of bacteria! I feel more confident going spores to agar because then I feel like there's a higher chance of germination before contamination- also 1 spore print can be used more than one fruit for cloning. Maybe I should try different cloning teks
Where’d you take the tissue from? If you have a decent sized cap, you can split the cap in two and there’s a nice sweet spot right above where the stem connects to it that’s good for cloning.. don’t need much.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#27281766 - 04/25/21 04:58 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea that's the good spot. I always knew fahtster could find the g-spot.
I use the stem as a handle and rip upwards from the very base all the way through the cap. usually you get the 2 long halves and can get 2x that sweet sweet tip of cap tissue. So firm and not stringy like stem tissue. Mmmmmm
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27281773 - 04/25/21 05:04 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some of my jars show no colonization after a week. Do you guys recommend I wait longer? Could I reinject spores in the jars or is that not recommended and why? Thanks all.
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wait longer.
Reinjecting isnt recommended because for one thing there was probably a reason the first shot didn't go. Bacteria most likely. Plus the jars are 2+ weeks old by the time anyway. And grains are pretty cheap.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27281914 - 04/25/21 07:52 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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When you clone if you’re just getting bacteria with no mold you’ll be fine.
I’ve never successfully cloned a pan without having bacteria. If you let it sit long enough the bacteria will run it’s course and then myc will explode out of it and you can get some clean growth once it’s outgrown the bacteria colony.
Particularly nasty ones will take a few weeks but it’s happened every time for me so far.
I’m also on board with the 50% air until pins. Up until recently I was just full blasting the fae from day one but I started experimenting and the surface stays in better condition if I wait. It doesn’t seem to really affect pinset or yield though it’s just kind of a little detail thing. It does seem like it might help the second flush come in stronger but I haven’t run enough to know for sure yet.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27281924 - 04/25/21 08:01 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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sandman420 said: wait longer.
Reinjecting isnt recommended because for one thing there was probably a reason the first shot didn't go. Bacteria most likely. Plus the jars are 2+ weeks old by the time anyway. And grains are pretty cheap.
Appreciate it.
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Quote:
verum subsequentis said: Both ways work but our enemies love stagnant moist conditions. Fresh air is a good thing. I spawn to tubs that are getting about 50% fresh air (compared to what I give them at "fruiting time") and then open it up to 100% once the pin set is in (for most cultures).
Are you doing this with MP tubs?
I've been doing this with EZ dials.
I tape the 3 holes on both of the long sides with masking tape and removing once pinning begins.
Kind of a pain in the ass if you're running more than just a few tubs.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
#27282075 - 04/25/21 11:25 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes.
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Is it bad to take a transfer more from the inside of a culture if the leading edge is surrounded by contam? Not a big deal right?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27282110 - 04/26/21 12:34 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't see why not as long as its not sporulating mold
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tiptrippy] 1
#27282114 - 04/26/21 12:47 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's totally fine. Even if it's sporulating mold you can do it in a SAB with proper tek.
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This plate pin has become a plate fruit!
T2 from a golden teacher clone, 03/26.
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Damn. Plate "fruits" are normal but that rhizomorphic growth is crazy.
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It’s the first culture I started working with, and has been my best producer so far. Strong growth, good potency. My friends say things like “two grams is like taking three!” but I suspect that’s only because they’ve never had mushrooms that went straight from harvest to a dehydrator before.
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Maybe. Or maybe we're just getting better and better at this. Generation after Generation after Generation of selective breeding can have that impact on things.... your friends have just never had good shit. I run into folks sometimes that say shit like, "i generally like 5-7 grams doses". I laugh and give them 7 of mine and dare them to eat it. The only ones that do come back mind blown. Literally.
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Plate fruits are the truth. I've got a crazy Melmak plate around here that put out so many pins at once that had it had enough water it would have been a plate canopy. From my experience so far it's also a good sign of excellent CO2 tolerance which means great genetics for bag growing.
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