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Mr. Mushie

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr.Hyde]
#27278686 - 04/22/21 10:33 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mr.Hyde said:

Growing well. Greenhouses are adjustable steel shelves wrapped in painter's plastic. All the humidity comes from evaporation off the substrates. The shelves are spaced very close together and every shelf gets filled completely full.

I may try some of these in the future.
What do you yield per bag on average?
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tututotutut
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
#27278692 - 04/22/21 10:42 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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well my worry was there was a potency loss from air drying also i had mine in a pile and some fuzzy mycelium was growing connecting separated shrooms !! that had me a little worried but i guess "turning" them some will remedy that but ok ok I'll get one thank you!
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
#27278784 - 04/23/21 12:13 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was a hardcore air dry enthusiast till LtLurker straitend me out. You will have some potency loss and you'll never actually get them cracker dry. I havent seen a presto dehydo price increase in 3yrs.
However i did buy my first 23qt presto canner 3yrs ago at 90bux, and my last one at $130.
Imma ask this again cuz im really fuckinv curious. Ive seen this posted with questions a few years ago but dnt remember anything else cuz i was psychotic.
 Wat the fuck is goinv on here?! Looks like a fruiting substrate from a long bag that's been cut and opened, spreading the contents out atop a bed of perlite. I aint saying im into it. Jst wanna knw wtf im looking at.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27278797 - 04/23/21 12:33 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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yo, any of you use reusable glass petris? i love the way they look, but this test batch all has contams growing around the outside edges. i usually use pasty plates & never get contams like this, so i'm assuming it's from the petris. i didn't have them wrapped at first, which i realize was probably a mistake. put them in plastic bags after that but i think it was too late. am i only supposed to wrap & unwrap them from seran wrap in the SAB? even plates i haven't opened are showing signs of contams. are there any tricks for utilizing them better?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#27278844 - 04/23/21 03:00 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Glass petris are great but they have to stay sealed at all times or the contam creeps in from the rim.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27278856 - 04/23/21 03:32 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Disappointed in myself but I won't let it upset me.
Had a lovely 700-800g flush that I had to dry in the oven due to my heater fan melting and messing plastic on my mushrooms. The oven door closed while I was working and only noticed it an hour later, opened the oven and everything had turned dark blue/black due to the moisture not being able to escape causing all the water to pool onto of the mushrooms. Hoping they are still active so that I can make some jellies or similar.
Time to get my dehydrator game on. On to the next flush though, no reason to even harp on it.
Edited by DERRAYLD (04/23/21 03:57 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tututotutut]
#27278896 - 04/23/21 04:58 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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tututotutut said: air drying vs dehydratod main difference is time needed, right? I'm neglecting buying one because y'know, broke sumbitch and all.
Dehydrator is obviously fast and takes up less space. You can't stack trays when air drying your fruits. The upside to air drying is that the fruits look so much better. They lose almost none of their natural color.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#27278908 - 04/23/21 05:25 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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hazyhorse said: yo, any of you use reusable glass petris? i love the way they look, but this test batch all has contams growing around the outside edges. i usually use pasty plates & never get contams like this, so i'm assuming it's from the petris. i didn't have them wrapped at first, which i realize was probably a mistake. put them in plastic bags after that but i think it was too late. am i only supposed to wrap & unwrap them from seran wrap in the SAB? even plates i haven't opened are showing signs of contams. are there any tricks for utilizing them better?

Glass plates have a pretty large rim gap compared to plastic disposables so they must be wrapped up. Preferably in the SAB. Also the gap is more on the bottom of the dish instead of the side so it's a bit tricky to wrap them, mind the gap.
Pouring plates in a SAB is not 100% effective. You can expect a 10%+ contam rate or maybe even more for something like that. There can't be still air when there is hot agar making air currents, now can there? I'd go with no-pour or pasty plates or whatever yall call em for a SAB personally. Even AC air blowing in the same room can mess up poured plates in a flowhood same with a SAB too.
Only other trick I have for glass plates is to sterilize the in the oven instead of in the PC. They come out dry as a bone from the foil packs. But yours look nice and dry, good work there.
Edited by sandman420 (04/23/21 05:30 AM)
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DERRAYLD
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#27278913 - 04/23/21 05:35 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why use glass plates and pour agar in the sab? Seems a bit counterintuitive but I don't pour anything, pc everything.
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Mr.Hyde
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
#27279004 - 04/23/21 07:41 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr. Mushie said:
Quote:
Mr.Hyde said:

Growing well. Greenhouses are adjustable steel shelves wrapped in painter's plastic. All the humidity comes from evaporation off the substrates. The shelves are spaced very close together and every shelf gets filled completely full.

I may try some of these in the future.
What do you yield per bag on average?
I mix a 4lb bag of grain with coir to fill 3 (sometimes 4) of the polytube bags. I pull at least 4oz, and hopefully closer to 7, per 4lbs of oat spawn. This KSSS clone has pretty consistently been giving me just over 6oz from each bag of spawn.
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LadysKnight
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#27279006 - 04/23/21 07:48 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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hazyhorse said: yo, any of you use reusable glass petris? i love the way they look, but this test batch all has contams growing around the outside edges. i usually use pasty plates & never get contams like this, so i'm assuming it's from the petris. i didn't have them wrapped at first, which i realize was probably a mistake. put them in plastic bags after that but i think it was too late. am i only supposed to wrap & unwrap them from seran wrap in the SAB? even plates i haven't opened are showing signs of contams. are there any tricks for utilizing them better?

Ziplocks are fine, no need to wrap. Take stack of plates from pc to sab, apply ziplock baggies, done.
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr.Hyde]
#27279147 - 04/23/21 10:17 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mr.Hyde said: ...per 4lbs of oat spawn.
Fuck oats!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27279154 - 04/23/21 10:25 AM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Have you guys ever used popcorn? I found it to colonize way faster than any of my rye
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Popcorn and rice is my go to blend.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
#27279222 - 04/23/21 12:13 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ran out of space in my lunchbox for refrigerated cultures.
Are there any issues that arise from excess condensation forming inside fridged plates or am I okay to just throw them wrapped extra tight with cling into double ziplocks? Won't be able to cult for a little bit and I wanna move all the cultures I have going right now into the fridge.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27279254 - 04/23/21 12:37 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oats are commonly overhydrated, but their shape is awful. I have moved on to wheat. I just pour boiling water onto the grain ,in brew bags, in buckets for an hour or two. Same works well for oats too. Seems aldente is just right before the PC run. So much faster over all. I can crabk out 8-16 fat ass bags every day with 2 prestos. Got an AA75X lined up tho
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
#27279293 - 04/23/21 01:01 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeesss..YEESSsss!! That's what im talking bout Quirk. Get you some of that egyptian wheat and never look back.
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Iambrownbear said: Popcorn and rice is my go to blend.
I been eying the bulk tri colored popcorn kernels at winco. Got a few lbs yesterday. All my jars are colonizing atm so i gotta wait but im antsy make some tri colored popcorn spawn.
I dnt remember why popcorn and rice aren't commonly used and are frowned upon. Seems like they wud be the fastest colonizing. Popcorn seems fine but i would thnk rice wud be a bizatch to get not to clump 2gthr. Prolly have to rinse it a bunch of times to get all the rice flour off. Fuck, i dip my hands in a bag of rice i keep by my sab b4 i slide gloves over mine fat irish paws.
How do you prepare your corn/rice "go to"?
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Failboat
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27279302 - 04/23/21 01:07 PM (2 years, 9 months ago) |
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Popcorn is a bit pricey, but feed corn is as cheap as it gets. Rice is easy to overcook and also kinda pricey. I'm gonna need a truck to move all this wheat I'ma be buying. I crush a bag bout every day and that's just limited by my prestos. That hot soak tek is just so practical.
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