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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27247949 - 03/11/21 10:03 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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How many dikaryon are in a mushroom and responsible for spores? 1 dikaryon isn't producing these billions of spores, right? Because if that was the case wouldn't it be an isolate straight from the get go when you cloned it? Also what other mycelium and strains could be in it? Do the hyphae have to go through plasmogamy in order to be a part of the primordial formation or can the fungus use other mycelium to help build its structure?





I'm sure I'm just fagtarded and no one is paying me any mind but these T2's from a natalensis clone are what got me questioning



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27247956 - 03/11/21 10:07 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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How many dikaryon are in a mushroom and responsible for spores? 1 dikaryon isn't producing these billions of spores, right? Because if that was the case wouldn't it be an isolate straight from the get go when you cloned it? Also what other mycelium and strains could be in it? Do the hyphae have to go through plasmogamy in order to be a part of the primordial formation or can the fungus use other mycelium to help build its structure?





I heard that even a clone transfer can contain up to 9 individual sectors. Idk if that’s true


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
    #27248132 - 03/11/21 11:56 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Lol that’s pretty specific.


They have way more, ime clones are still close to spore in genetic variability.


This is an old clone with a ton of sectors. I was looking for a playa clone plate that had like 30 perfectly divided sections but idk where it is.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27248528 - 03/11/21 04:11 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Like natedawg stated earlier. The mea lc's are much cloudier so pics aren't much to look at. However, these are the results after 3 days. Each qt was noc'd up with 3 cc's of lc.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27248535 - 03/11/21 04:19 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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Like natedawg stated earlier. The mea lc's are much cloudier so pics aren't much to look at. However, these are the results after 3 days. Each qt was noc'd up with 3 cc's of lc.






Is that a mix of popcorn, brown rice and oats? Does the mix perform noticeably better than just one grain?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27248546 - 03/11/21 04:26 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Corn & rice, BrownBear... Wtf?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm] * 1
    #27248555 - 03/11/21 04:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Yes. Its corn, rice and oats. Typically I just use corn and rice. I'm not a big fan of oats or wbs. However, I bought a 50# bag of oats back in September when I started cultivating again. So now I just add a little to each batch just to get rid of it.

Corn and rice colonize faster than oats but yields seem to be the same when compared side by side.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27248580 - 03/11/21 04:45 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Oats 4 lyfe!:rockon:

I've used rice, wbs, grass seed, oats, rye, wheat(s), barley (whole and rolled), millet, and milo. Corn is 7.50/50lb and I got long bags. The money saved on corn could go towards the pricey millet.:shrug:

Milo>Oats has been working well, but millet is much faster. Millet has to be prerinsed to remove cracked grain IME. Milo just needs boiled gently, but it's pretty clean.

Maaaybe I'll get some corn to noc via my millet Melmac jars, just for science fun.:awesome:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27248593 - 03/11/21 04:54 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I cannot find milo, milllet, wheat, rye or barley in my locale. I get popcorn for $.80/lb. I use rice for multiple reasons such as adding inoculation points and it helps absorb excess moisture from the popcorn so that I don't have to strain or dry the popcorn for long before bagging or jarring it. Rice also makes for a fantastic slurry.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27248608 - 03/11/21 05:08 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

You can't get feed corn?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27248615 - 03/11/21 05:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Feed corn would hydrate to twice the size of popcorn which would give even less inoculation points. It also has more busted kernals than grocery store popcorn. Tbh, I've never tried feed corn for cultivation. I'm sure it would work but I don't think I want to try it though..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear] * 1
    #27248622 - 03/11/21 05:19 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

How do you prep the corn and rice?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27248624 - 03/11/21 05:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

No wbs?

Adding a grain to counter another grains poor prep is kinda redundant dont you think?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] * 2
    #27248642 - 03/11/21 05:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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How do you prep the corn and rice?




I add 6 qts of popcorn to a stock pot. Fill the water so that the level is twice the height of the popcorn. Then I boil it for 45 minutes. Turn off the burner. Add 2 qts of rice, mix and let it sit for 10 minutes. Than I strain it on a window screen until it is cool to the touch.

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No wbs?

Adding a grain to counter another grains poor prep is kinda redundant dont you think?




Sure. I can find wbs around my way but I am not a fan of it.

It would be redundant if it were the primary reason why I use it. I use rice because the combination of popcorn and rice make a great grain spawn.

I don't post telling anyone in this community to follow my methods. If someone asks, I will gladly explain. I couldn't care less if anyone ever used any of my methods, tbh. In fact, most of what I do is completely against community standards. I don't care, I am satisfied with my results. That is all that matters to me.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27248748 - 03/11/21 06:36 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

It just reminds me of people putting verm in grain jars to suck up excess moisture.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27248749 - 03/11/21 06:39 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry I didn't mean to start any shit lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27248754 - 03/11/21 06:41 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

neither did i:lol:  ..for once.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27248756 - 03/11/21 06:41 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

But that is not the main reason why I use it. It is just an extra benefit that makes grain prep a little less time consuming. While adding verm would only be a crutch with no other reason for its use in that particular application.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
    #27248771 - 03/11/21 06:47 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

we all do shit differently sure but hearing someone say they dont like wbs and prefer to put rice into popcorn jars kinda head fucks me.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #27248789 - 03/11/21 06:56 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I don't particularly like any feed quality grains and prefer to spend the extra cash on grocery store grains. If I could find bob's red mill millet at my local grocerer then I would give that a try.


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