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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim]
#27243625 - 03/08/21 04:38 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Like me flushing semis!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#27243640 - 03/08/21 04:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm in Portugal and it's really dangerous to order since it's illegal. I ordered spores though, gray areas of the law hehhe, and did this jars.. Since I don't want to waste I started posting here. I have agar but only have plastic petri dishes so it's a no go for sterelization.. the jars were pressured cooked. Didn't know kits were crap shots, in my house in Spain while confined I've grown almost 3kg of them.. beginers luck for sure.. Spores-grain-substract is my first run
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim]
#27243652 - 03/08/21 04:57 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mandarim said: ...also I have a box inside a box...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27243654 - 03/08/21 05:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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So all the azurenscens outdoor bed threads are all about fruiting in fall.
I guess this means azurenscens never fruit in spring?
This will be the longest project ever, Most threads describe spawning in spring and fruits in fall.
Why don't super smart shroomery scientist just spawn a huge amount of spawn "in time" for fall rain and temperatures?
That way they don't need to baby a outdoor bed for 6 month's+ ?
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Mandarim
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#27243676 - 03/08/21 05:16 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's a fruiting chamber at a minor scale. Same principle of tents.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim]
#27243678 - 03/08/21 05:17 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mandarim said: Why overkill? This is a temporary situation for me, I start to work-travel again and then what? The system will work.
I've read the teks. Read all about the failures to fully automate the fruiting process.. yeah it's a challenge but it's doable and I'm going to prove that. Saw no one using temp and humidity sensors and act on fan and heat element accordingly.. also I have a box inside a box and the heating element uses water providing moister. I agree with you.. it's easier to have shoo box and light but that's a bit ugly to have in a living room.. I think they are beautiful to be on a exposición shelf or something like that. I bet I could even sell this peace of furniture to you. Hahahhaha
It's a steep slope. And I know because I've done it successfully with low-level automation (heat, humidity, fans, lights - with thermostats and timers). It took a couple versions to get it working, and it was all pretty inexpensive thanks to scrounging the main container (a styrofoam store shipping box). Fits in a closet in a spare room.
Bottom line though is you need to be there to monitor any such setup, what you end up not having to do is to mist and fan. Mushroom growing is mostly slow stuff punctuated by fast events (fruiting) and if you're absent harvest will not happen correctly - you'll return to a sporulated decaying mess.
So here's a picture or two of what I've used for many years off and on to produce reliable harvests during winter seasons:
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Mandarim
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This will be the longest project ever, Most threads describe spawning in spring and fruits in fall
I bought some miicelium of azurecens and did it all wrong also thinking of spring.. I've placed the thing in the ground in November and your post just made me realize I'm going to have nothing in the next months... I was still thinking spring spring spring..I know it's alive but yeah.. it's going to be a year.. you just ruined my day hahahaha
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim]
#27243725 - 03/08/21 05:47 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mandarim said: Why overkill? This is a temporary situation for me, I start to work-travel again and then what? The system will work.
I've read the teks. Read all about the failures to fully automate the fruiting process.. yeah it's a challenge but it's doable and I'm going to prove that. Saw no one using temp and humidity sensors and act on fan and heat element accordingly.. also I have a box inside a box and the heating element uses water providing moister.
You're describing old setups from like the 90's. They're extinct now, because they're over complicated and overkill. Sure you could grow mushrooms in it, it's just silly at this point.
KISS mr engineer. Accomplish room temp and adjust a monotub at the correct fae for your local conditions(rh). That's all they require, you shouldn't even really need to mist much once you dial in after a few runs.
Take the foil off your jars; it's not doing anything good, potentially detrimental. That one's not looking too good to me tbh.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
#27243733 - 03/08/21 05:52 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeahhh man really cool! With timers it's harder and like you say you have to be there to monitor. Nevertheless you could step away 2 days having that setup? I can easily be 4 days a week out of my house.. bunch of things can be done using more high level stuff, like mobile app to control the system.. different profiles for various growing steps.. that's my goal.. be able to go and be in peace with things at home.
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim]
#27243736 - 03/08/21 05:55 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mandarim said: Yeahhh man really cool! With timers it's harder and like you say you have to be there to monitor. Nevertheless you could step away 2 days having that setup? I can easily be 4 days a week out of my house.. bunch of things can be done using more high level stuff, like mobile app to control the system.. different profiles for various growing steps.. that's my goal.. be able to go and be in peace with things at home.
Thanks for sharing!
I've spawned my tubs, left for a week, and came back to pins on numerous occasions.
On a few occasions I've left and come back to a very over ripe harvest also
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#27243764 - 03/08/21 06:09 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seems you are only looking into the tech not the necessity.. Not everyone has the time requiredto be around mushrooms that's why the techs even exist. Archive room temperature is not an option.. not going to leave the house with the heat turned on for days. Let's not compare the 90s cause there was no retail microcontrollers.. if we all think like that we would be stuck in stone age. We would not fly cause someone failed 30 years ago trying. Automation is the only way for me, can't even have pets. Don't say they are extinct, big mushrooms farms do it at a large scale.. how do you even archive room temperature if not by automation? The monotub is just a passthrough in my journey but I'm not really building yetanother monotub tech.. it's a prototype.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim]
#27243772 - 03/08/21 06:13 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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So spring = forget it?
Is there no reports of people finding azur in spring
Always looking for the definitive answer.
I'm in good shape regardless if this can be w2w (???) To make more spawn, and outdoor bed on my terace suspect that will fail
There's also a infamous thread about a guy taking it in and out of the refrigerator and getting fruits. I'm not going that route but it was a consideration early in the thought process.
The most conservative approach would be to amass a lot of spawn regardless
Also working with luteoviridis and serbica, maybe I'll run a thread with the spawn I make
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim] 1
#27243786 - 03/08/21 06:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mandarim said: Real thanks man!
In this house had a bunch of problems.. gnats, coweb. 4 pre-made kits went all wrong. Let's see this time. This and a big oat jar is all I have now. Can't order nothing here.. totally forbidden.
I'm in the most perfect place to eat them though hehe
AM I the only one that wants to see what an IT engineer is gonna come up with? Lets not shut this one down. Mandarim, you go do you! Please PLease please document the setup and process with pictures. When you are all set let us know how it works out.
I will say there is plenty of room for a great engineering mind in the Flow Hood construction and all the funky gadgets we end up building. Can't wait to see what you create. If it fails, come back here and we can help you grow a shoebox or mono.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#27243815 - 03/08/21 06:34 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Take the foil off your jars; it's not doing anything good, potentially detrimental. That one's not looking too good to me tbh.
Just saw this now.. The jars have the lid in place and the foil it's been there since the pressure cooker, I just spined the foil after using the spore syringe to cover the little holes. I think it's starting to look bad cause it's been a long long time there with my temperature concerns I just put to subst the smaller jar.. maybe it's lost already? How much time can a grain spawn hold?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mandarim]
#27243817 - 03/08/21 06:36 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depends on if it is upside down or right side up. The sands of time and all.
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smalltalk_canceled said: So spring = forget it?
Is there no reports of people finding azur in spring
Always looking for the definitive answer.
I'm in good shape regardless if this can be w2w (???) To make more spawn, and outdoor bed on my terace suspect that will fail
There's also a infamous thread about a guy taking it in and out of the refrigerator and getting fruits. I'm not going that route but it was a consideration early in the thought process.
The most conservative approach would be to amass a lot of spawn regardless
Also working with luteoviridis and serbica, maybe I'll run a thread with the spawn I make
liteoviridis is pretty simple and serbica cant take awhile, captainfuture posted a growlog in them awhile ago
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
#27243846 - 03/08/21 06:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hahaha thanks for the support!
I cannot be the only IT guy around for sure. Plant kingdom is full of them
Thumbs up.. I,ll keep you posted
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#27243877 - 03/08/21 07:08 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Captainfuture was a bad ass, whatever happened to that guy?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#27243910 - 03/08/21 07:26 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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What i think you're missing is a plain old tub can be ignored for days just fine, it is set and forget once you dial it in. The Primal with the winter helper said much the same in a different way. Paraphrasing as i'd put it; You can leave a sub alone for a long time and let it pin, but if you're gone when they mature they start to die relatively soon and they'll be covered in spores.
Most people don't use PMP's, aquariums and TiTs any more for a good reason. The ones that do usually only use in certain situations like too cold and no other heat method. Cubes are very easy on the required conditions. Running a couple cube tubs is not nearly the same as running a gourmet warehouse, two very different things and different requirements.
I'm not gonna keep beating a dead horse. Just my 2c I think you're making it harder than it needs to be. Good luck.
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smalltalk_canceled said: So all the azurenscens outdoor bed threads are all about fruiting in fall.
I guess this means azurenscens never fruit in spring?
This will be the longest project ever, Most threads describe spawning in spring and fruits in fall.
Why don't super smart shroomery scientist just spawn a huge amount of spawn "in time" for fall rain and temperatures?
That way they don't need to baby a outdoor bed for 6 month's+ ?
Spawning a bunch in time for fall temps and rain is the same as s0awning in the spring. It takes time for them to colonize a woodchip bed.
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