|
clockworkshroom
Stranger


Registered: 02/20/20
Posts: 655
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#27231873 - 03/01/21 10:45 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Work ruined my agar plans so I have 2 media bottles of solid agar filled to over the 400ml, too full to microwave?
If I pc again how long does it take roughly to melt? Might just do another 15 at 15psi to be safe
|
mushboy
modboy



Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 32,281
Loc: where?
|
|
I nuke it on half power until it melts
|
clockworkshroom
Stranger


Registered: 02/20/20
Posts: 655
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#27231949 - 03/01/21 11:30 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Ok cool thanks, roughly how long does it take?
|
clockworkshroom
Stranger


Registered: 02/20/20
Posts: 655
Last seen: 2 years, 7 months
|
|
5 mins 30 at 360 watts was the magic number
|
Lenz
Misunderestimated


Registered: 08/17/20
Posts: 692
Loc: Fungistan
|
|

I have 4 PE monotubs looking like this.
About how much casing do I need per 66qt tub? Will 2qt per be enough?
And what’s the best to pasteurize a decent amount of casing without an inkbird or sous vide or anything like that? I was going to try FrankHorrigan’s method with an oven bag in my PC but will that partially sterilize the casing at the outer edges?
|
Fietchen
Stranger
Registered: 08/27/19
Posts: 233
Last seen: 2 years, 8 months
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
#27232036 - 03/01/21 12:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
I harvesting my fist KSSS Cubensis not what i expected from the Mushrooms how they look I saw some of these Crazy Cool looking KSSS but that's only Optics maybe I found some in later grows.
I prepare my second Flush know.
|
A.k.a
Stranger



Registered: 10/27/19
Posts: 16,782
Loc: Gaming the system
Last seen: 4 hours, 27 minutes
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27232039 - 03/01/21 12:30 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Usually PE likes a thicker casing so I’d make a bunch, Ive never measured how much I use so idk by quart.
You could bucket tek it, pour near boiling water in and leave it for an hour then pour a little more in.
Instant pots are great for pasteurizing.
--------------------
LAGM2020     
|
TedsDead



Registered: 01/03/17
Posts: 4,998
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27232043 - 03/01/21 12:32 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
It will if the temp is past 170F
My tubs end up with about 4 qts of casing. 2 should be fine but id 3 would be better
-------------------- weed gets you through times of no money better than money gets you through times of no weed... -the fabulous furry freak bros If you can buy it, you can burn it!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25947396#25947396
|
cronicr



Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle
Last seen: 2 years, 9 days
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27232049 - 03/01/21 12:35 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
it doesn't matter if you partially sterilize during pasturizing it's just the core temp that matters, from there the good bacteria spreads out during the cooling process
--------------------
  It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn I'm tired do me a favor
|
Fietchen
Stranger
Registered: 08/27/19
Posts: 233
Last seen: 2 years, 8 months
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Brian Jones]
#27232053 - 03/01/21 12:38 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Brian Jones said:
Quote:
Sankhara said: Hi people, I was going to build my food dehydrator before my first flush but life happened and now i've got my first flush and no dehydrator.
Do you think freezing them for a few days would turn them to mush?
I plan on dehydrating them anyways so I dont know if it would cause any issues or not.
I really dont want to fan dry them, its just... annoying
You can put them in a bag in the refrigerator for several days, no problem. Some people say a week. Don't freeze them.
I have my Shrooms drying on Paper Towel on fresh Air not good?
|
Lenz
Misunderestimated


Registered: 08/17/20
Posts: 692
Loc: Fungistan
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#27232063 - 03/01/21 12:43 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
@AKA, I didn’t know you could bucket tek casing like that. I’m just worried it won’t pasteurize properly since this is my first time running PE and casing. I do have a 8qt electric PC though that might be worth busting out.
@Ted, so I would be okay if I just kept the heat on the PC low enough that the water doesn’t pass 170? In that case would I want to use a bunch of water to nearly submerge the bag since there won’t be much steam below 170F? And is 4qt for the first and second layer of casing that you do?
@Cronicr, I thought you had to give the casing a week or so for the microbes to recolonize the partially sterilized parts of the casing if you did end up partially sterilizing. Is that not the case? I wanted to pasteurize then use it immediately once it’s cooled down.
Thanks guys
|
smalltalk_canceled
Babnik


Registered: 07/13/20
Posts: 2,862
Last seen: 13 days, 9 hours
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27232102 - 03/01/21 01:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Man boiling Popcorn so inferior to PC popcorn
4LIFE
-------------------- Willpower is the one true virtue
  
|
A.k.a
Stranger



Registered: 10/27/19
Posts: 16,782
Loc: Gaming the system
Last seen: 4 hours, 27 minutes
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27232105 - 03/01/21 01:23 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Do you have a meat thermometer?
I pasteurize by loading a bag or jars with wet sub/casing and then putting them in the instant pot and add as much water as it can hold.
The double boiler type methods are perfect.
--------------------
LAGM2020     
|
Sankhara
Trump's lost child


Registered: 02/11/18
Posts: 546
Loc: Argentina
Last seen: 10 days, 12 hours
|
|

Is there any reason why they grew so short? The veil is half the mushroom height. They are really thick and dense thats for sure
|
LtLurker
Lost Sailor



Registered: 01/03/18
Posts: 7,535
Loc: Borderlands
Last seen: 6 days, 4 hours
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#27232108 - 03/01/21 01:25 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Cute. Is it cold?
|
BrownBear
Warrior-Traveler



Registered: 06/05/20
Posts: 1,539
Last seen: 8 months, 7 days
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#27232119 - 03/01/21 01:37 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sankhara said:

Is there any reason why they grew so short? The veil is half the mushroom height. They are really thick and dense thats for sure
The ess is similar in that the veil detaches quite early. They are typically dense as you say also. As the mushroom matures it will hollow out and become a little squishy. I know what you are growing are a different variety than the ess but they have similar traits it seems. I would have let tthem go longer. Atleast another 1 or 2 days.
|
Lenz
Misunderestimated


Registered: 08/17/20
Posts: 692
Loc: Fungistan
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
#27232156 - 03/01/21 02:05 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
I do have a meat thermometer. I just bought some turkey bags as well so I could stick the probe in the center put it in the 23qt Presto with a bunch of water and bring up the heat slowly right?
|
joze



Registered: 11/10/20
Posts: 928
Loc: PNW
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27232173 - 03/01/21 02:21 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
natedawgnow said: Dude those are pretty much still pins.
They have a lot of stretching to do before veil break it looks like
Quote:
A.k.a said: Yeah I only see two or three that look mostly done.
I had a shoebox that kinda looked like his fruits on the first flush, they all were short and stout and then opened their veils when they were still super small. That's what I was basing it off of I guess.
|
Sankhara
Trump's lost child


Registered: 02/11/18
Posts: 546
Loc: Argentina
Last seen: 10 days, 12 hours
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BrownBear]
#27232239 - 03/01/21 03:13 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
LtLurker said: Cute. Is it cold?
I dont know is 80F too cold?
Quote:
Iambrownbear said: I would have let tthem go longer. Atleast another 1 or 2 days.
But they have just broke their veils, 2 days from now I would be arriving to sporecity!
I know first flushes tend to be small, but this got me a bit confused. Was it maybe the 1:4 spawn ratio?
|
Jarhead3521
Grindin’



Registered: 09/26/19
Posts: 514
Loc: Amongst the pines
Last seen: 5 months, 23 days
|
Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara] 1
#27232339 - 03/01/21 04:42 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
|
|
When you go on vacation for 4 days and come home to do work!
--------------------
|
|