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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27191822 - 02/07/21 01:29 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, if I was made of money I might consider that, lol. I think I've got it sufficiently dialed in now but it requires squeeze testing every bag very carefully. I've had a LOT of trouble with bags but I think I'm finally turning the corner. Wasn't really an issue so much with oysters cuz they colonize so quick and can just run right over trich and still flush out.
The bags were $100 for 1,000 so I'm just taking it as a cheap, bumpy road to learning how to work with bags but I'm definitely buying straight from unicorn next time.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27191828 - 02/07/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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GypsyBastard said: Maybe leucistic. If you let it open to see spores color you could tell if it was albino. May be another way that I'm not aware of, I just know true albino spores have no color whereas leucistics look albino but still have colored spores.
Interesting. Going to clone it and see what comes of it
Edited by shadyshroomie (02/07/21 01:31 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27191865 - 02/07/21 01:44 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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This isn't really apropo of anything just want to yell cause damn I thought Reddit was dumb but some of the stuff people say on FB mush cult groups is just next level stoopid.
One of the many things I see all the time is people saying you can't do agar work in a SAB. It's always "get a hood" any time someone talks about contam issues in an SAB. 
Why do people even say shit like this... anyways...
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shadyshroomie said: Noticed this harvesting my TAS shoebox. Is this second one to the right an albino variant by chance?

Nah that looks environmental to me.
Lol if you canβt do agar work in a SAB then what do these people use them for?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27191887 - 02/07/21 01:57 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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They say it cause they have shitty sterile technique and it's masked by using a hood over a SAB.
Not gonna lie, I can be a lot more relaxed and get away with a lot of shit in front of my hood that I couldn't dream of getting away with while in my SAB. But, you'll never hear me advocate someone to get a hood if they're having contam problems in their SAB. It's almost always an issue with sterile technique, not the use of a SAB.
Even though I haven't used a SAB in almost a year now, I'm glad I started out in one because it taught me a bunch about sterile work that I might have ignored if I started out immediately in front of a hood.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#27191923 - 02/07/21 02:12 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is what spurred my post earlier about a similar sentiment. This is happening in our getting started forum right now. Name removed to avoid starting shit.
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**** said: I just shared my own tek that ive had success with. Give it a look! You can have successful agar without even steaming or PCing. Peroxide works wonders!
I am no expert but I do know peroxide is not going to sterilize agar.
Edited by GypsyBastard (02/07/21 02:13 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27191928 - 02/07/21 02:15 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol cron just moved it so itβs about to get ugly up in there
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27191952 - 02/07/21 02:29 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Nah that looks environmental to me.
Can you expand on this? Is it just an oddly white fruit due to some environmental reason?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#27192006 - 02/07/21 02:52 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gan said: Whats the farthest yall will take a g2g expansion? I've always made master jars and each master goes to 10 g2g. Anyone ever expanded those 10 g2g jars to 10 more each? If so, do you notice any difference in the vigor of your culture on the grains after two expansions?
I have a few really good looking g2g jars of a clone I like and I'd love to make about 40 more jars with them but I've never taken it out farther than the first g2g transfer
Here's something I saw awhile back.
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TedsDead said: Dayum! Whats the colonization time with that? Ive been doing 1jar to 5-10 bags and then bag to bag from there for maybe 10-15 generations
Whered u get those sweet plates ?
Ted does 10-15 generations allegedly, which is the most i've seen thus far.
Edited by Mr. Mushie (02/07/21 03:03 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27192015 - 02/07/21 02:56 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: 16" perhaps ; )

Having the flexibility to do both is nice. AIE-405HIM for the win
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27192016 - 02/07/21 02:56 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: lol cron just moved it so itβs about to get ugly up in there
Just read through all the comments and replies. Just wow. The stolen avatar pic... Though I felt a little called out by the comment about "anyone whose avatar isn't the moon or a wizard". Haha Ok I'm done. Really not trying to talk shit on anyone
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
#27192028 - 02/07/21 03:00 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm a spoiled bitch, I've had a hood since day one. I used a SAB once when I sold most of my equipment years back, Quote:
Mr. Mushie said:
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p9hu7 said: 16" perhaps ; )

Having the flexibility to do both is nice. AIE-405HIM for the win
Nice, mine will be here on wed.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#27192036 - 02/07/21 03:02 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gan said: They say it cause they have shitty sterile technique and it's masked by using a hood over a SAB.
Not gonna lie, I can be a lot more relaxed and get away with a lot of shit in front of my hood that I couldn't dream of getting away with while in my SAB. But, you'll never hear me advocate someone to get a hood if they're having contam problems in their SAB. It's almost always an issue with sterile technique, not the use of a SAB.
Even though I haven't used a SAB in almost a year now, I'm glad I started out in one because it taught me a bunch about sterile work that I might have ignored if I started out immediately in front of a hood.
Makes sense, it's just crazy that people drop hundreds of dollars on something as specialized as a FH and aren't aware that one can do nearly as much in a SAB.
I'd love a hood to be able to relax a bit and not worry about leaving a plate open or a jar lid off for a second but at the end of the day I'm pretty confident I can do most things adequately in my box.
Hurts to see and it's not even worth the time to disprove lol.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27192087 - 02/07/21 03:26 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I feel like some of this shade on noob's needn a hood is directed toward me and my question above. I asked what is the proper size hood filter for large bags, and if there is a way to cheat it and have a smaller one. My history is all SAB. I've done hundreds and hundreds of transfers at very low contam rates. grown hundreds of pounds dry. 12 years in.
But I expand out to bags. Lots of them. And I'm done jerryrigging a SAB to do this.
My question still goes unanswered... or do you all want to throw more shade for a while longer. I looked first, couldn't find the answer.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27192094 - 02/07/21 03:29 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've seen people do bags in front of really small filters and very large filters. I think its all just preference.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27192098 - 02/07/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Doctor Mario said: I've seen people do bags in front of really small filters and very large filters. I think its all just preference.
But don't people complain about it if its small and always want a larger one?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27192103 - 02/07/21 03:34 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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2ft tall filters are where you'd start for having a fully opened bag comfortably. I've done bags in front of a 12" tall filter but I had to lay it on its side to pour grain in. My new hood is 2ft tall and is the perfect height for doing regular 3t spawn bags.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27192108 - 02/07/21 03:35 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is it possible to have a dip for the bag to sit lower in, or does that cause turbulence?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#27192111 - 02/07/21 03:36 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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tedoro said:
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Doctor Mario said: I've seen people do bags in front of really small filters and very large filters. I think its all just preference.
But don't people complain about it if its small and always want a larger one?
I'm sure that some do and some don't mind too much. I was gonna get a Meyers 2x4 and saw a couple people say that they wished it was just a little bigger so I bought a 3x4 instead. It's too big for what I'm currently doing but everyone has said that it will be nice when running a lot bags for gourmet grows.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lenz]
#27192113 - 02/07/21 03:36 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lenz- Same man. I have no doubt that a FH would be so much more easy\convenient\comfortable\nicer\etc to work with but in my 3+\- years of active cult and lots of agar work, I have done everything in a SAB. Were my contam rate 0%? No. Did I produce more fruits than I could give away, absolutely. As others have said too, I feel like it is far less forgiving way to learn sterile work. Hard learned lessons are well remembered lessons.
tedoro- not directed towards you. Nothing but love here.
Edited by GypsyBastard (02/07/21 03:37 PM)
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