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clockworkshroom
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27181269 - 02/01/21 03:57 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm using them too. Obviously not the cheapest but definitely the neatest.
I hate my polyfil lids now I have them. Also kind of hate my 2 piece metal lids now I have plastics.
Plastic, drill a hole, sfd sticker = win
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I love those SFD Stickies. I just remade all of my lids. Then I spit on them too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27181279 - 02/01/21 04:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe a dumb question but these filter paper stickers seem to have caught on big time. I just saw a ad for a roll of the filter paper for $40 instead of $16 for 64 stickers. Anyone tried that? May be cheaper than SFDs and could just cut a square piece and put it under the whole lid. Also, any idea what adhesive the stickers use? I love my SFDs and usually just use one whole filter per jar. If the paper works as well and is cheap, I am so in.
Just thought of this while typing, how to the filter paper stickers hold up against getting wet? are the hydrophobic like the SFDs?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27181283 - 02/01/21 04:03 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I put all this RTV on mine. The aluminum foil stuck to the RTV after a PC cycle and I ended up pulling most of it off.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27181286 - 02/01/21 04:06 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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SO I also struggled with this, but then realized that over the years I have spent way to much on SFD's (also on those paper SFD's that werent actual SFD's) and the last 2 years I have used MP tape layers.
It is the same as using MP tape layers but so much cleaner in terms of Jar appeal. I started grinding my lids with a drill and stone to make them nice and smooth. This really is the bee's knee's in my opinion.
Also Amazon, 124 stickers for 17 bucks. I put one on the outside and one in the inside and then im good to go.
Also I spit on them afterwards.
Edited by Sockadin (02/01/21 04:07 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
#27181299 - 02/01/21 04:12 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I literally just used the sticker, no RTV, only run them once but no issues at all so far.
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And I've only put them on outside not the inside, should I do both? Also I didn't spit on them so they will probably fail soon
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I don't know what is right, I just thought, "these look thin, might as well double bag them."
Also the spit is for Temp checking.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
#27181318 - 02/01/21 04:18 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spit Tek sounds too complex, you need to do a right up.
Sorry to repeat a question but it was in a long post I made about other things. Swab to agar, nothing at all in a week, is that normal? I used 2 swabs on 4 dishes and one I rubbed so hard I made a crator so must have transferred something.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
#27181326 - 02/01/21 04:22 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I used MP tape for a long time but when using lids with 4 holes and needing 4 layers of tape, it is just too much. 10 jars means tearing 160 piece of tape. Fuck that. This is why I love the SFDs. 1 hole, 2 holes, 4 holes; doesn't matter. Just throw a filter under the ring and above the lid and they are good to go.
 No rtv or glue or any of that shit. As long as the filter paper doesn't absorb water then I can just buy the roll and cut them into squares and use the same way.
clockwork, I would just wait longer. I have 2 z plates; one took 16 days to germ, the other took almost a month. If you have a scope, check and see if there are any signs of individual spore germination. I had almost given up on mine but just saw first signs of microscopic growth a few days ago.
Edited by GypsyBastard (02/01/21 04:25 PM)
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that is normal. but i always have better luck leaving the swab in the last plate I swipe.
@GypsyBastard, totally agree lol. i just switched back to metal lids with full sfds (from plastic lids) and couldnβt be happier. i even bought a heavy duty 1/8β hole punch to make lids easier. if i want 100 more lids, itβll be effortless
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: junk_f00d]
#27181355 - 02/01/21 04:37 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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In the UK I see 90mm SFDs being sold at like $40 for 12. I spent less than that on 12 Qt jars. I assume that is massively over priced but I didn't find many cheaper, not that I really looked hard to be fair.
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Quote:
clockworkshroom said: In the UK I see 90mm SFDs being sold at like $40 for 12. I spent less than that on 12 Qt jars. I assume that is massively over priced but I didn't find many cheaper, not that I really looked hard to be fair.
I'm not in the U.K. but did you try fungi.com? I buy the 90mm in sets of 100 from there for like $60, so it comes out to $0.60/lid. I like this option with metal lids as it requires the minimum amount of work to build/replace a lid (aside from unmodded), and is still cheaper than buying plastic lids. I used about 200 plastic lids regularly over the last year and about 20% of them developed warped threads and are now pain to get on and off (often causing contams for me). They also come out of the PC extremely loose, and if I pulled them out while hot I was sure to get contams without even opening the jar. I never thought I'd miss the two piece lid and band style metal lids but it's very nice going back IMO.
Just gotta figure out how the F$&! to prevent them from rusting so fast...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
#27181388 - 02/01/21 04:58 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
lookintolearn said: Also I spit on them afterwards.
Bruh  You did what?
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Sockadin said: Also the spit is for Temp checking.
Still confused 
Edit: I've decided adding "then I spit on them" to the end of any write up makes it way better
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: junk_f00d]
#27181390 - 02/01/21 05:00 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've only done 12 brf jars, about 20 grain jars and about 120 agar plates but I haven't seen a sniff of contamination yet on anything. I thought one of my jars was cobweb but I spawned it earlier and it smelt and looked beautiful. Very early days I know but I'm already getting a bit complacent with the sterile Tek, especially with agar. I need something to teach me a lesson soon 
I'm surprised though that a loosened lid out the pc is a major contam risk even if tightened pretty quickly.
I know I'll get my time soon.
Just ordered some cam, b+ and albino pe to expand my collection to more than just GT! Is a slant the only way to maintain albino pe real long term?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Vinci]
#27181395 - 02/01/21 05:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Speaking of spit, anyone ever follow up with this weird shit?
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LCs in the fridge top slants imo. Way faster to bring back to fruiting, won't dry out, plenty of myc food, shit you could put a wood craft stick in the jar for extra measure. Slants can be a bitch to transfer to plates from too. The obvious downside is a qt jar takes 10x the fridge room of a slant.
Mario that's pretty hilarious especially as a first post. I've certainly done some 24 hr soaks that expressed to my nose that some fermentation had occurred, never spit in it tho the idea that the myc might be able to eat it better is new to me. I'd expect that non fermented grain is a little more nutritious as nothing has started eating it until the myc does. If fermentation helps, I think it could only help colonization time.
Not worth my time to test that I don't think, so I'll just stick to not spitting all over the op. Tried and true.
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Quote:
clockworkshroom said: I've only done 12 brf jars, about 20 grain jars and about 120 agar plates but I haven't seen a sniff of contamination yet on anything. I thought one of my jars was cobweb but I spawned it earlier and it smelt and looked beautiful. Very early days I know but I'm already getting a bit complacent with the sterile Tek, especially with agar. I need something to teach me a lesson soon 
I'm surprised though that a loosened lid out the pc is a major contam risk even if tightened pretty quickly.
I know I'll get my time soon.
Just ordered some cam, b+ and albino pe to expand my collection to more than just GT! Is a slant the only way to maintain albino pe real long term?
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clockworkshroom said: I've only done 12 brf jars, about 20 grain jars and about 120 agar plates but I haven't seen a sniff of contamination yet on anything. I thought one of my jars was cobweb but I spawned it earlier and it smelt and looked beautiful. Very early days I know but I'm already getting a bit complacent with the sterile Tek, especially with agar. I need something to teach me a lesson soon 
I'm surprised though that a loosened lid out the pc is a major contam risk even if tightened pretty quickly.
I know I'll get my time soon.
Just ordered some cam, b+ and albino pe to expand my collection to more than just GT! Is a slant the only way to maintain albino pe real long term?
You can store it in grain as a master jar or slant too, or a wedge suspended in sterile water. I haven't tried either of those for cubes personally though. I've seen people just put colonized grain into a petri and use that as a slant. Slants are easier than plates though IMO, I follow hamloaf's tek.
Supposedly, the sterile water thing can be done with cubes at room temp.
Edited by junk_f00d (02/01/21 05:13 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: junk_f00d]
#27181423 - 02/01/21 05:14 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll do some reading, I thought LC only lasted a couple of months. I was talking a year or so.
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Yeah... i'd use SFD's if i could get them cheaply to argentina. Unfortunately is not an option...

Thats why im consifering polyfil "sfd's" from the linked thread
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