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Inthepit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27170553 - 01/26/21 09:26 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Josex said: I like to soak, grain takes a boiling (or pressure hydration) better this way imo. I feel alone sometimes.

OMG yer soooo funny! So, why a 20 min blast from the PC, instead of the recommended 10 min blast?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27170564 - 01/26/21 09:33 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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If I boil I would not think of doing it for 10 minutes even if I soak, haven't found an instance in which I did that and was satisfied with the level of hydration in the grains. Ten minutes is just too little and the grains still look raw for me. I ditch the timer and go by feel but I don't think I've boiled any large grain for less than 30 minutes even after a overnight soak. YMMV and your preferences too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27170570 - 01/26/21 09:37 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Ok, so in the PC you are using it to first boil for 20, then you PC it. Do you happen to have times for doing oats?
Edited by Inthepit (01/26/21 09:40 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27170585 - 01/26/21 09:45 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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No man, that's an experimental prep I'm doing. I'm putting the grains in a bucket with water and run the PC for 50 minutes to hydrate it in the bucket. Shouldn't have posted that because is just that, something I'm messing with atm. I haven't done oats in a very long time, those need a serious boiling for at least 45 minutes, like bod's prep.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27170599 - 01/26/21 09:54 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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I'm going to try the blenderless Tek to grain for 8 jars in the morning.
Just took the jars out the pc and put them in the sab and am now pc-ing 250ml water in a jar, will do 20 mins or so at 15psi and let it cool over night.
In the morning I'll take the water out the pc and put 1 maybe 2 fully inoculated agar plates in the jar, shake the fuck out of it then evenly distribute in to the 8 jars.
Anyone in here tried this before? My plates are 20% light malt extract so am not sure if they will be soft enough to break up at all
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27170601 - 01/26/21 09:56 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Ok, my bad, sorry to get ya all misinterpreted! LOL I'm happy with Crackatoa's easy oats Works great! I was just thinking hitting endospores more. I'll be quiet now.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27170608 - 01/26/21 10:02 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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I just bring the water to a boil, turn the heat off, throw in the oats, soak for 45-60 minutes, strain, and throw in the PC. Havent had any issues.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27170609 - 01/26/21 10:02 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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just tested shaking a non germinated LME plate in 250ml cold tap water in a jar. It broke in to about 8 pieces eventually but not like the softer plates in the examples I've seen. Still think I'll try it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27170615 - 01/26/21 10:04 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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What do you think about this blowers for a 24x24x11.1/2" or a 24x12x11.1/2" HEPA filter.
This is what i found locally, it goes to 240 cfm.

And my other option is this aliexpress one , it says 11m3/m that its like 388cfm.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27170625 - 01/26/21 10:10 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Doctor Mario said: I just bring the water to a boil, turn the heat off, throw in the oats, soak for 45-60 minutes, strain, and throw in the PC. Havent had any issues.
Didja forget the drying cycle Chief? Sounds just like Crackatoa's easy oats Works great!

I'm down to 2 hrs, drying, but next time I'm locking it up in the bathroom over the tub. I'm suspicious that airborne contams are flying by outside.
Edited by Inthepit (01/26/21 10:12 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27170640 - 01/26/21 10:21 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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You can dry grain outside. You are going to PC it anyways. If we had to worry about keeping things contaminant free before PCing it would be an uphill battle and your bathroom would only be marginally better. Maybe.
I dry outdoors every time. My screen is HUGE. When I steam dry 88 pounds of hydrated grains all the windows fog up and start dripping pools of water on the window sills if I do it indoors 
Also, are you going all Howard Hughes on us??? Those yellow bottles look suspect. It IS okay to take bathroom brakes when doing myco activities my dear myco-man, you don't have to stay in the room to watch them dry.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: EZPZyaBZ]
#27170653 - 01/26/21 10:28 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Bod's tek is 30-60 mins drying in strainers (not spread out) only stirring once or twice if at all. It seems everyone in here dries out way more than that, why?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: EZPZyaBZ]
#27170658 - 01/26/21 10:33 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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EZPZyaBZ said: You can dry grain outside. You are going to PC it anyways. If we had to worry about keeping things contaminant free before PCing it would be an uphill battle and your bathroom would only be marginally better. Maybe.
I dry outdoors every time. My screen is HUGE. When I steam dry 88 pounds of hydrated grains all the windows fog up and start dripping pools of water on the window sills if I do it indoors 
Also, are you going all Howard Hughes on us??? Those yellow bottles look suspect. It IS okay to take bathroom brakes when doing myco activities my dear myco-man, you don't have to stay in the room to watch them dry. 
OMG, I get piss cracks almost every time I post that pic, it's such an easy target!
Ya, PCing, guess I'm just grasping at excuses for bad spawn...
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clockworkshroom said: Bod's tek is 30-60 mins drying in strainers (not spread out) only stirring once or twice if at all. It seems everyone in here dries out way more than that, why?
Well for meeee, oats too wet - major contams. Oats too dry and it stalls till contam takes over! I've done both, it's an art getting the moisture content to match your needs and they can differ!
Edited by Inthepit (01/26/21 10:42 AM)
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Ever need to add sterile water cause your no prep was too dry?
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That is just one more possible vector. If my prep didn't turn out right I would refigure my approach and just re-prep and PC.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27170685 - 01/26/21 10:54 AM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Inthepit said:
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Doctor Mario said: I just bring the water to a boil, turn the heat off, throw in the oats, soak for 45-60 minutes, strain, and throw in the PC. Havent had any issues.
Didja forget the drying cycle Chief?
Nope. I stopped drying and saw no difference in the end result. I get more condensation in my jars but I shake and roll oats twice a day for a few days and it goes away.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27170788 - 01/26/21 12:06 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Does this look dry ?
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No, I see condensation on the substrate.
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I have a few control bags of PC'd wheat that I've left un-inoculated. Their LI noc'd sister bags made very bacterial monotubs, but two weeks in, these control bags still smell fine through the patch. Could it be that the act of adding clean LI and having growth in the bag can cause bacteria to start up? And maybe lie dormant if left un-inoculated?
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Theres lots of big water droplets in the fuzzy myc happy clusters and more pins forming. Looks good to me.
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