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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rooster Cogburn]
    #23621972 - 09/07/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking an immersion circulator and a plastic trash can might be another good way to do it, but those immersion circulators are so expensive...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23622006 - 09/07/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

True, but the atmospheric steamer is really cheap to build and it would just take a few runs of experimenting to dial it in for pasteurizing.
I built mine off of gr0wer from here, actually his youtube video.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
    #23622010 - 09/07/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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filthyknees said:
Yes fewer cuts and thus much less time with the plate open.

Yes you can imagine tic tac toe but i just use a rectangle. With one scalpel sterilization i can have 10 transfer pieces made.

Best i can do on a picture, i just googled rectangle made of squares.


If i was doing twenty transfers from one plate id cut two rectangles on opposite sides of the plate,
cut the rectangles into ten pieces each muchcfaster than twenty individual square cuts.

Since the squares are precut, after the grid is cut the plate iz open for literallyless than one seconds to retrieve each of the next squares to transfer



Heres the pics of what this looks like. One plate to 20 in a few minutes.
After the first cut ill resterilize inbetween every few transfers.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Rooster Cogburn]
    #23622135 - 09/07/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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True, but the atmospheric steamer is really cheap to build and it would just take a few runs of experimenting to dial it in for pasteurizing.
I built mine off of gr0wer from here, actually his youtube video.





Okay that's really neat. I'd want to use a bigger element than that, like the element out of a 75x.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23623462 - 09/07/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can do about 4 tubs worth in my oven I put them into either vacuum bags wrapped in foil or oven bags you may even be able to get 6? But 4 at a time is pretty decent being hpoo is free it helps butcoir is so easy it's hard to not wanna buy if


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23623490 - 09/07/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Man I still haven't had the courage to try oven pasteurization. Eat has been telling me to try it for a while but old habits die hard. I've tried the spawn bag pasteurization on my stove top before, doing 2 8qt clear polyethylene bags in a 23qt presto, and I used an electric burner to keep the water temp a steady 160-170. I'm kind of paranoid about that now. I took a 5 month break from the forum and growing and just recently started a couple tubs. The coir tub I made using the bucket tek took 6 days to fully colonize and now has a patch of rhizopus growing on the casing layer, but the tub I did with properly pasteurized hpoo took 3 days to fully colonize and looks incredible.

I guess I've had too many failed grows where I didn't properly pasteurize, and all the really good grows have involved properly pasteurized 50/50 hpoo/verm.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23623538 - 09/07/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I been using professor pinheads hpoo/coir and fahtsters hpoo/straw tweaking the tek just abit to get field capacity right but I tried two tubs on the stove in the bag problem was it took forever and then I did a pot in pot which worked but the oven is the best for me as long as I don't space it out I have gas so my lowest is 225 I just run it at 350 and about an hour I am at 135-140 and I turn it off usually have to take it out at 30 minutes to start letting it cool or I'll go over temp but never had an issue when I'm focused haha


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23623886 - 09/07/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Man I still haven't had the courage to try oven pasteurization. Eat has been telling me to try it for a while but old habits die hard. I've tried the spawn bag pasteurization on my stove top before, doing 2 8qt clear polyethylene bags in a 23qt presto, and I used an electric burner to keep the water temp a steady 160-170. I'm kind of paranoid about that now. I took a 5 month break from the forum and growing and just recently started a couple tubs. The coir tub I made using the bucket tek took 6 days to fully colonize and now has a patch of rhizopus growing on the casing layer, but the tub I did with properly pasteurized hpoo took 3 days to fully colonize and looks incredible.

I guess I've had too many failed grows where I didn't properly pasteurize, and all the really good grows have involved properly pasteurized 50/50 hpoo/verm.




I feel you man. It really sucks to have beautiful spawn, close to perfect field capacity on the sub, and then fuck it up on pasteurization. Good agar and culture>grain>sub and ratio> then fuck up the last step.

That said I will have to check out Eat's info on that because I hate proper pasteurization on a stove its a real pain and you have to baby sit it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23625082 - 09/08/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Almost have 5 quarts of spawn ready. So excited.

Typically, you do 5 quarts, to 1 brick of coir/Verm via Damian's 5050 tek right? (I know it isn't half and half by the way)

I feel like a 66qt tub is just huge and could give me less good of a canopy than say a smaller tub like 50qts or so. 

Anyone chime in on this?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23625099 - 09/08/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Man I'd love to build a big steam box for pasteurizing stuff. It would be so awesome to have something I could fit tons of substrate in and control with a thermostat. I need to look around for some more build ideas, but being able to properly pasteurize 5 tubs worth of hpoo/verm in one go would be incredible.

Moabfighter I've switched from 66qt to 45qt tubs. They have a slightly smaller footprint and aren't as tall, the one I started recently colonized really fast, but that was due to the spawn ratio and substrate. I switched to the 45qt tubs to save space. Plus they're 15 bucks for a 3 pack at Costco.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23625104 - 09/08/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

if you give it the right conditions you should be good but pasty says the mini monos give you better BE I think he uses 27qt monos for those but smaller monos dry out faster from what I read.. 5 qts of spawn with a brick of coir will give you like a 4" sub in a 66qt


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: NumeroEno] * 1
    #23625114 - 09/08/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Man I'd love to build a big steam box for pasteurizing stuff. It would be so awesome to have something I could fit tons of substrate in and control with a thermostat. I need to look around for some more build ideas, but being able to properly pasteurize 5 tubs worth of hpoo/verm in one go would be incredible.

Moabfighter I've switched from 66qt to 45qt tubs. They have a slightly smaller footprint and aren't as tall, the one I started recently colonized really fast, but that was due to the spawn ratio and substrate. I switched to the 45qt tubs to save space. Plus they're 15 bucks for a 3 pack at Costco.



Damn that's cheap ... what if you took an old drier and rigged up some sorta steamer? I'm not sure what would produce enough steam but if you drilled a hole and put the hose through then put putty around it I think the drier would hold 5+ tubs worth


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23625181 - 09/08/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm thinking about getting a 55 gallon drum and putting a heating element with a thermostat on it. A heating element like the AA electric sterilizers have would be ideal. Someone posted a video of one in another thread and I'm thinking about using that basic design but with really good parts.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: NumeroEno]
    #23625616 - 09/08/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i need help i inoculated three jars with same syringe the first got contaminated. should i throw out the other ones as well? they have not really showed any signs of contamination


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: I love mushr00ms]
    #23625628 - 09/08/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No.  Wait until they contam.
Sometimes its 1 in 10. Sometimes 1 in 3.  Sometimes none. (sometimes all)

Good luck.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: guyute22]
    #23625832 - 09/08/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sitting on my couch munching when I realized no wonder they are so delicious they were made for it duh... oh and mushrooms


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: d0urd3n]
    #23626148 - 09/08/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That said I will have to check out Eat's info on that because I hate proper pasteurization on a stove its a real pain and you have to baby sit it.




Have you tried MudaFuka's bucket pasteurization? It's super simple, and pretty hard to screw up. No need to babysit.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: herrenvolk]
    #23626805 - 09/08/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

check out the pasteurizer I built that uses steam
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23341904


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: liloldme]
    #23627002 - 09/08/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I've made them out of a number of containers(coolers 55 gal drums both insulated) using the stanley steamer and some thermometers with probes on cords to monitor internal temp of substrate.

they work great just yours looks more safe with that temp regulator?

I had to manually shut the steamer off when necessary to not over heat

edit:

anyway at least for cube cult, pasteurization and any substrate that needs it is way over rated.

Stick with cvg and a bucket. and possibly the oven for further cooking the coir.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tombosley8]
    #23631874 - 09/10/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have a question. The tub I have going now, BRF to bulk, I cased immediately, and let it colonize 100% before fruiting. Now I'm getting pins. Should I case it again, or leave it be?


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