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GrinchGrower
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BondVillain]
#27165857 - 01/23/21 05:24 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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Yeah those are going to be some bigguns!
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Crackatoa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GrinchGrower]
#27165862 - 01/23/21 05:27 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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Is there a difference between the KSSS phenotype UFO and Peyote? Or it just whatever they first heard them as?
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AyePlus
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
#27165948 - 01/23/21 06:15 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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Theyβre all just ksss, (koh samui super strain)
They are just differentiated now because there was hella confusion and prints that were the normal Koh Samui variety getting passed around as KSSS, or someone was printing reverted ksss or something. That was a few years ago and now people make sure to note the mutant ones,
Heres a semi reverted one I had a lot of fun growing for about a year. Lots of variation in phenotype, and conditions would bring out different expressions,
  
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Khan38
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#27165977 - 01/23/21 06:34 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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About a week from my last update.
First grow; is everything looking good so far? From what Iβve been looking at on here I believe everything is good but is going a little slow I guess.
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Mr. Mushie

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Khan38]
#27165994 - 01/23/21 06:47 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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This tub looks like the surface of the moon.
It looks pretty dry from the pic in certain spots but in others I can see a slight glimmer of water, i'd give it a mist.
What's your fruiting environment like? Temps?
I bet it'll pin soon.
Those dark areas look kind of strange to me but ill let someone else chime in on that.
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junk_f00d


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#27166016 - 01/23/21 07:02 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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dang those are nice Aye, they almost look like porcinis
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Sankhara
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: junk_f00d]
#27166083 - 01/23/21 07:46 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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What do you guys think? Would this be a viable alternative to myco bags? The filter would be polyfil
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Also contaminated air cannot travel through obscure pathways in all circumstances
Here i cant get unicorn bags or anything like it
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Jarhead3521
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#27166092 - 01/23/21 07:58 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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I would think if you cannot PC them, youβre pissing in the wind. But I canβt read what the ad says, so I may just be a schmuck
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alaskappalachian
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Jarhead3521]
#27166122 - 01/23/21 08:16 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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Yeah I am not sure about those based upon the ad, but oven bags and food storage bags (for Foodsaver-type setups) both work fine. I've used both.
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Yeetusdeetus



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
#27166147 - 01/23/21 08:32 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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Crackatoa said: Is there a difference between the KSSS phenotype UFO and Peyote? Or it just whatever they first heard them as?
I thought Willsolvem created peyote
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AyePlus
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27166167 - 01/23/21 08:43 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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Yeetusdeetus said:
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Crackatoa said: Is there a difference between the KSSS phenotype UFO and Peyote? Or it just whatever they first heard them as?
I thought Willsolvem created peyote
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20183488/fpart/1/vc/1
Peyote was a KSSS isolate with an induced mutation, the spores were spread around but it wasnt a stabilized variety. If you have βpeyoteβ spores its just mutant ksss from that line
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TheBoJim
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#27166171 - 01/23/21 08:45 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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Schemenhaft said: I harvested my MonoTub yesterday - Made those without a liner, don't ask me why. I harvested in the way to tape all holes and fill the box with water.
Now I have the problem that there are small amounts of water on the bottom because I was not able to take out the cake and dry it a bit. This water on the bottom will be a big problem for bacteria I think. Any ideas what to do? I am very unsure I am able to get out the cake without damaging or breaking it in two parts.
A bit of water isn't going to be a problem if the tub is healthy but if it bothers you too much you can put an empty tub inside that one, flip both over, remove the original tub and then use a paper towel to soak up the water. Since I'm pretty sure I explained myself with my ass here you have a couple pics so you can see what I mean.

Also good for harvesting bottom or side shrooms if you get them.
Floating a sub in a tub with holes was an outrageous mess for me the couple times I did it, would rather endure the pain of having to harvest normally.
Whats going on in the first picture? I am having the same issue and wold like to know how to prevent this.
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Yeetusdeetus



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#27166224 - 01/23/21 09:09 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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AyePlus said:
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Yeetusdeetus said:
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Crackatoa said: Is there a difference between the KSSS phenotype UFO and Peyote? Or it just whatever they first heard them as?
I thought Willsolvem created peyote
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20183488/fpart/1/vc/1
Peyote was a KSSS isolate with an induced mutation, the spores were spread around but it wasnt a stabilized variety. If you have βpeyoteβ spores its just mutant ksss from that line

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ivey77


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27166230 - 01/23/21 09:13 PM (3 years, 6 days ago) |
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All of the names vendors give can confuse the fuck out of me. I've been studying up more on it. And realized most is bullshit and gimmick with the exception of mutants and a few sub species. It seems it mostly comes down to domestication. So the Golden teacher spores I collected on a hike in Florida I could clean up, isolate and name any fucking thing I want as a 'strain' but ultimately it's just golden teacher
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Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ivey77]
#27166300 - 01/23/21 09:55 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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How do you know they were golden teachers that you collected on the hike? Was it a patch you started?
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ivey77


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27166310 - 01/23/21 09:57 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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No it was my friends patch. She started it a couple years ago.
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ivey77


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ivey77]
#27166315 - 01/23/21 09:59 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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I go down about once a year on my way to other bucket list hiking spots. She has been collecting throughout Florida for decades.
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Crackatoa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#27166371 - 01/23/21 10:46 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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AyePlus said:
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Yeetusdeetus said:
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Crackatoa said: Is there a difference between the KSSS phenotype UFO and Peyote? Or it just whatever they first heard them as?
I thought Willsolvem created peyote
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20183488/fpart/1/vc/1
Peyote was a KSSS isolate with an induced mutation, the spores were spread around but it wasnt a stabilized variety. If you have βpeyoteβ spores its just mutant ksss from that line

Yes, I understand this. What I'm asking is, I have the print of the UFO phenotype, is this the same phenotype as the peyote. Is it a thing where some people know it as UFO and some know it as Peyote? Are they 2 completely different phenotypes? I grew out the UFO's and they don't exactly look like those in the link but mine are almost there but I had trich going in inside that tub and picked asap.
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AyePlus
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
#27166393 - 01/23/21 11:04 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Yeah theyre both basically the same, The peyote phenotype was a mutation on the βufoβ variety forcefully induced by uv light and so the look wasnt a stabilized trait, just a trippy isolate so the spores will produce about the same as any other mutant ksss, maybe with a slightly stronger tendency to produce mutants. It you read through the willsolvem thread pasty pretty much says the same
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#27166399 - 01/23/21 11:08 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Iβd count them as different. Peyote seems to be ufo with no cap or a tiny cap instead of the normal giant wavy ones that cover the stem.
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