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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27136659 - 01/09/21 12:22 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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I like to make big batches of tea and freeze it





What's your favorite tea and method to use? Basic herbal ginger and lemon for me. Maybe A dash of honey.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RhYzo]
    #27136710 - 01/09/21 01:22 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

How is your experience fruiting on pure cococoir without grains? Is it possible get good flushes or do you have to add some other source of nutrients?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RhYzo]
    #27136720 - 01/09/21 01:40 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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What's your favorite tea and method to use? Basic herbal ginger and lemon for me. Maybe A dash of honey.




Can't speak for mushrooms consumption as I lack enough experience with it, but for Ayahuasca I can confirm ginger tea is my go-to and absolutely wonderful at mitigating nausea / stomach ache. Best way is with fresh ginger - just cut it up in small pieces, put it into boiling water for a while, strain.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Shr0]
    #27136723 - 01/09/21 01:41 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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How is your experience fruiting on pure cococoir without grains? Is it possible get good flushes or do you have to add some other source of nutrients?




What do you mean without grain ? using shredded BRF cakes instead ?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Shr0]
    #27136724 - 01/09/21 01:42 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

You need to have colonized grain to mix into coir.



Breaking up a bunch of shrooms and mixing them together is definitely the way to go if you’re looking for super consistent dosing.

Like they said you can have two mushrooms growing next to each other and one could be 5x stronger than the other. So instead of eating the strong one the first time and the weak one the second time you break and mix them so you get half of each both times.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27136734 - 01/09/21 02:05 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I have problems with contamintaion in grain jars. I don't know what seems to be the problem but I keep trying to get it right. As I'm doing this I dropped some grains (half a jar) in monotek cococoir and it's doing fine without signs of contamination.

My questions: is half jar of grains sufficient to colonise and fruit in only cococoir (I know this gonna take forever but I don't mind waiting).


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Shr0]
    #27136749 - 01/09/21 02:35 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Half a quart into a full mono, like 650g coir? You'll get something. Why speculate though. Be sure to record the amount.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Shr0]
    #27136750 - 01/09/21 02:35 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

In theory any spawn:sub ratio would work. In practice the less spawn you put in the longer it'll take; and that additional time is more time for potential competitors to take over the substrate.

More spawn = more growth fast = less uncolonized sub for nasties to exploit. Also, less spawn = less end produce of course.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zsuzsi]
    #27136751 - 01/09/21 02:38 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

You can also only get so much yield from half a jar of spawn.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27136757 - 01/09/21 02:47 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

But how much? He's gonna find out! :lol:
I guess he could add more spawn still if he's got it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27136770 - 01/09/21 03:18 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Is it possible to make the polyfil in the jar-lids to tight?
It seems like my Polyfil-jars need like 4x of the time my "experimental-jars" with a lid just laying on the mouth fixed with tape need.
There is not that much happening in almost 10 days now not even 10% colonized - Jars from same petri-dishes with the laying lid are like 80% colonized.

Hat the same issue with unmodified full-closed lids, the jars were growing ultra-slow and it seems very similar to this.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Shr0]
    #27136796 - 01/09/21 04:08 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

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I have problems with contamintaion in grain jars. I don't know what seems to be the problem but I keep trying to get it right. As I'm doing this I dropped some grains (half a jar) in monotek cococoir and it's doing fine without signs of contamination.

My questions: is half jar of grains sufficient to colonise and fruit in only cococoir (I know this gonna take forever but I don't mind waiting).





  My first go to if your having contamination issues but using clean inoculation is to check and make sure you are venting your pressure cooker properly before putting the weight on the vent. You want to let it vent until it stops burping gas and steam and is a full vent of steam rushing out. Just my thoughts.

Also if you have less spawn, just mix it in a smaller container, but you still want to keep your ratios pretty close to normal.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
    #27136799 - 01/09/21 04:09 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I needle nose that poly tighter than prom night and have no issues.  That's the best filter other than a SFD IMO (for speed especially). Curious what you mean by your experimental lids/just sitting on there with tape.  European style lids or ball jar lids?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #27136843 - 01/09/21 05:38 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)



Here is an example of the lid.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
    #27136847 - 01/09/21 05:40 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Those lids are not going to give you the seal that you want in terms of keeping contamination out.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #27136864 - 01/09/21 05:54 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Those type of lids are all I use (grain jars and LC jars) and the seal is perfectly air tight. There's a reason the food industry chooses those type of jars and lids for canned food, sauces, pickles...

I'm seeing what looks like MP tape covering what I imagine is a poly filter.  That's totally unnecessary, poly by itself is a reliable filter for jars if you make it nice and tight and it can take lots of cycles before going bad.

@Schemenhaft, your jars growing slowly could be caused by a number of things, dry grains and low temps are common. I don't think it's the filter. Do you have a pic of those slow jars?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #27136873 - 01/09/21 05:59 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I don't think it's the lid that's the concern it's the fact it's just resting on top of the jar and hasn't been screwed down at all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: The Dalcassian]
    #27136877 - 01/09/21 06:08 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Yea I know they look like they're not screwed down all the way even if they are. Next time you go to the supermarket take a quick look at any pickle jar or sauce jar, you're going to see the same. I don't know what's the point of those extra threads on the jars but it seems to be something standard.

Here's a pic of my jars. The lid opens and closes with a very short turn but the seal is as reliable as it gets.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #27136882 - 01/09/21 06:15 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Btw, between you and natedawg I think I've got the wheat prep down. The grains look darker than in your pics but I managed to get the opaque center without bursting many along the way so thanks a lot dude.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: The Dalcassian]
    #27136885 - 01/09/21 06:18 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Wheat's the bomb, glad you got it down. That pic is barley though :lol:


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