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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lemgrub]
#27119490 - 12/31/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#27119620 - 01/01/21 03:36 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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For a tub that requires multiple jars of spawn is it better to do g2g transfers rather than split an agar plate between them to isolate even further? Or if you have a good plate is the difference it would make doing g2g negligible?
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My wife is ok as long as I balance cult and family time and as long as shit stays getting done around our place but at first she hated it. She kept saying shit like are you ever going to stop. I told her no I probably will never stop, it’s something I love to do and in one form or another I’ll probably do it for the rest of my life even if it’s growing medicinal/gourmets for personal use. Then she tried microdosing and now she does it a couple times a week and has finally stopped complaining. Like last night I just brought my SAB in the living room to do agar work and had he kids sitting on my lap while I made transfers. There just has to be a balance though.
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Still bamboozled over this contam:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27120799 - 01/01/21 05:19 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Lemgrub said: Took a couple grams of PE, ground it and mixed in yogurt with turmeric/black pepper/spicy honey a lil bit ago and did some shots with friends. Cheers y'all.
Do you want indigestion? This is how you get indigestion lol.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#27121524 - 01/02/21 05:02 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Hey Shroomery,
at first a happy new year to everyone!
Need an opinion about these jars - They are made with a clean T2 Agar-Cubensis (Multispore) inoculation, 120min sterilized. These jars started as an experiment what happens if I just PC them with a completely closed unmodified lid. Obviously, they vacuum seal but forgot about this and all jars absorbed air in my sab when I opened them. I have eight jars, decided to play a bit more whats happening with these even If I thought they'll all be contaminated like hell.
I decided to lay the lid just on top of four of them and tape it - I'm that kind of person who pick the jar rapidly and the lid falls down. The other four are still closed and I gave them a shake at 30% 2 days ago, but till now not that much happening, think thats the conclusion of this part of experiment.
The four with opened lid grow crazy fast, two of them are close to 100%, other 2 at around 90% - They were just shooked like crazy after inoculation to split the agar in thousand parts. Not sure why they grow so fast, the inoculation-day was the 23rd of December and they passed some jars inoculated at the 19th of dec.


Those pics are from the two almost 100% jars with the lid just laying on top. Do they look healthy for you? Seems like clean of mold or other unwanted mushrooms, but not sure they look a bit bacterial? Think yes because there are still minimal spots on the grains which are like "rubbed off"
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft] 1
#27121548 - 01/02/21 05:35 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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They look a bit bacterial. Fwiw the last jars i had that colonized relatively fast ended up triching in the tub. It was either the bacteria weakened the myc to the point it contammed or the trich was already in the jar (I have a hard time believing the latter as there were no signs of that) they also looked to have thicker marshmellowy growth compared to the healthy jars. Not saying yours is the case but id keep my eyes open for possibilities
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phony Phone]
#27121583 - 01/02/21 06:23 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Phony Phone said: They look a bit bacterial. Fwiw the last jars i had that colonized relatively fast ended up triching in the tub. It was either the bacteria weakened the myc to the point it contammed or the trich was already in the jar (I have a hard time believing the latter as there were no signs of that) they also looked to have thicker marshmellowy growth compared to the healthy jars. Not saying yours is the case but id keep my eyes open for possibilities
Thanks for your opinion - I had the same problem with Trich with the jars in my signature. Jars were looking absolutly fine, also shaking and recovering in 24h no problem - THe result was Trich during 2nd flush.
I thin I'll use these jars for selfmade-Growkits or mini-shoeboxes with just one jar per box, so if one is infected I dont kill all other jars. For g2g or something they are useless, even if they look 100% fine in the end because they absorbed unfiltered air.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
#27121631 - 01/02/21 07:15 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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My case was even worse, trich appeared before any flush took place. it was a total catastrophy  I didn't have any problems with trich sporeload even though I let it grow out a bit to really know what I was dealing with. This was because I did not let it get into sporulation (Risky? perhaps) but as soon as I saw the faint emerald color, it was out . I made sure to seal it really well with saran wrap to avoid spores flying around. But yeah, you can spawn it and see what happens. You can also try and case with an alkaline pH, trich doesn't like that and if anything's going to happen, that can perhaps buy you time and get some nice flushes.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phony Phone]
#27121695 - 01/02/21 08:23 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Nah, I'll toss instant if it any kind of mold or other invasive mushroom appears, these jars were just time-killers and kind of playing a bit with stuff which is well known a stupid idea here at shroomery - But sometimes its useful to test it on my own.
Any opinions about this golden teacher growkit-cake I bought at my restart to get some prints and genetics? This is the second flush now, humidity is almost all time at 99%, temperature between 17.5 and 22 degrees, most of the time its around 20-21degrees.

This is the second flush now, humidity is almost all time at 99%, temperature between 17.5 and 22 degrees, most of the time its around 20-21degrees. I tried this cake at its first flush with bodhs unmodified tub TEK, changed after soaking 24h for the next flush to a box with pastywhytes tub-guide with just holes. First flush was okay for a first multispore flush from a random kit, almost 6g dried - But nothing special for good genetics or prints except one decent shroom - But got no spores from this guy, seems like he won't print.
I'm a bit unhappy about their shape - They grow like sitting-bags (is this the word for these bags laying just on the ground and you can sit on?) means they grow like fatty fattedy fatboys. They did it in the first flush and I I thought maybe its because of the unmodified-tub-tek (I use other boxes, the space between lid was not working that well - So I had to increase FAE. But still with pastys TEK they grow like fattys now - And I also have sidepinning now  Maybe its still fresh air? The box is modified for around 3-4,5" cake-height, this cake is just a bit less then 2" so the holes are maybe too high? Read also about lightcycle, but the effects should be different to this kind of fattys right? Failed the cycle sometimes so these guys got 5h of light or something - Like one time per week, rest is around 10-12h.
Other ideas except genetics?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
#27121871 - 01/02/21 11:22 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Surface looks dry What final height did the first flush fattys reach?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phony Phone]
#27121894 - 01/02/21 11:35 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Phony Phone said: Surface looks dry What final height did the first flush fattys reach?
Really, dry? Soaked the cake for over 24h on Monday, Misted them all day if humidity dropped. Not 100% sure about the height, the biggest one around 3-4“, rest 1,5-2,5“ and less.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
#27121904 - 01/02/21 11:43 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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For open air fruiting what is the lowest tolerable humidity that cubensis can roll with. I'm gonna start blocks on shelves but open air is new to me.
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#27121915 - 01/02/21 11:49 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Fwiw if they grow between 3" and 4.5" they are normal sized. As for their shape, I particularly like the fatties as they end up making fat fruits. I cloned fatties and I tend to prefer tall and fat mushrooms, right after that follows just talls and the rest are just worst case scenarios. If they are not midgets I wouldnt worry. As for the midgets, i have no idea what that cake is composed of and perhaps you may need more FAE. From the pics the surface just looks dry, make sure you lightly mist and it has light droplets on it. that would actually indicate high fae if they disappear fast (since your temps are low) but if the surface is wet and remains wet, upping the fae is what i'd do.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phony Phone]
#27122162 - 01/02/21 02:03 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Pulled some jars from cold storage because I want to get some genetics. Lots of metabolites in some and it looks like a touch of bacteria.
They are regular mouth jars unfortunately. I want to top fruit them so I can pull some clones. If you're top fruiting a jar should you add water to the grains at all before topping it with CVG?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
#27122165 - 01/02/21 02:06 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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@star I wouldn’t add water that would make the bacteria thrive if I’m not mistaken
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No don't add water, just a top layer.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#27122190 - 01/02/21 02:24 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Aight right on. How thick of a CVG layer are ya'll doing when fruiting a jar?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
#27122215 - 01/02/21 02:40 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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just a thin layer, maybe a 1/4"? I tend to eyeball and i do those thinner than i would top layer a tub.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phony Phone]
#27122283 - 01/02/21 03:19 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Phony Phone said: Fwiw if they grow between 3" and 4.5" they are normal sized. As for their shape, I particularly like the fatties as they end up making fat fruits. I cloned fatties and I tend to prefer tall and fat mushrooms, right after that follows just talls and the rest are just worst case scenarios. If they are not midgets I wouldnt worry. As for the midgets, i have no idea what that cake is composed of and perhaps you may need more FAE. From the pics the surface just looks dry, make sure you lightly mist and it has light droplets on it. that would actually indicate high fae if they disappear fast (since your temps are low) but if the surface is wet and remains wet, upping the fae is what i'd do.
Nah, just the Bobby-King was around 3-4, then around 20% were like 2" and the rest was way less, something between pin-stadium and a bit more All in all they look way too short in relation to my further grows in 2016 from growkit-cake. Wanna find out if its a condition-problem of just genetics. If its genetics, I'll need to get a descent print and regrow from Multispore, also make a slant from a Bobby-clone. If its conditions I'll just inoculate 1qt of spawn with clone-agar from them and regrow these guys in a Mini-Mono to find out it was just a FAE problem because of the missing sub-height.
Edited by Schemenhaft (01/02/21 03:26 PM)
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