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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: joze]
    #27105507 - 12/24/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Okey thanks faht!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara] * 1
    #27105547 - 12/24/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I take my Presto fully apart every once in awhile and soak everything in CLR to remove hard water build-up then I clean and polish it the best I can with Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish. The poor things seen a year of nearly non-stop use so I can't wait until AA/Presto get stock back as I'd like to retire this one.

The Prestos were never designed for doing 12 hours a day of work so many times a week. Grandma Mable doesn't put them through those kinda paces. I've just replaced my rocker as the old one was just fuuuucked with mineral build-up even with using vinegar and even the CLR wasn't gettin that nonsense off.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27106013 - 12/24/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Anyone got some rough ballpark math on what a hydrated quart of coir would weigh dry? Trying to calculate some BE here using napkin math.

Just doing my own ballparking here in that lets say I hydrated a ~650g brick to 8 quarts then add two quarts of verm and each quart of verm is 110g.. So that's what 760g/10 giving me something like 76g dry substrate in a full quart.




I use Plantonix coir and it's approx 60-65g dry coir.

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I take my Presto fully apart every once in awhile and soak everything in CLR to remove hard water build-up then I clean and polish it the best I can with Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish.




The CLR is a really good idea, i was thinking of how to clean mine up. Never thought to use Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish :lolsy: but that's literally what it's for! I'm a car guy so the combination of worlds was funny to me. I used Barkeeper's Friend to clean my flowhood's table the other day, it's aluminum too so :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #27106027 - 12/24/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Mothers Mag and Aluminum works like a hot damn on Prestos, I use it for finishing motorcycle forks/wheels the only problem with using it was that I was gonna take a before and after shot for the cult pictures thread but due to the mirror reflection I couldn't get anything that didn't show me/my home. Not good shit to put on this forum for reasons.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27106215 - 12/24/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the help guys.

Idk what it was but I made sure everything was screwed in tight and the lock pin moved smoothly, then wiped down the gasket and put everything back on with higher heat. Locked up and hit 15 no prob.


Now I can finally take advantage of my tiny cold weather window and fruit some gourmets in the garage.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27106269 - 12/24/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Europe is such a shitty region to get the stuff for cultivation..

Impossible to buy a big pc here without importing from the US for like 250% of the usual price..but okay, did it because it lasts for years and I just need one.

Because I get the PC next week, I wanna get jars around 1qt, currently I use maximum 435ml jars.

Its fucking impossible to get jars around 900-1000 litres without paying horrible prices.
Mason jars or something similar around 3-4€ for one in 0.5qt, this is just usury...

Tried to get something similar for less prices, made in an european country or something, because they all import just mason what makes it so expensive.
But just possible to get jam/jelly jars in this size or again crazy ass prices - But the jelly-jars are awful, they break really fast and the lids are opened just with a 1/8 twist so there is close to zero space to play between loose and fixed lid.

Anyone here from europe, best EU because of shipping, who could recommend jars for a good price or very nice quality?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
    #27106330 - 12/24/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Oh that reminds me has anybody ever gotten a deformed mason jar?

I opened a new case of ball quarts this morning and one was bowed out where the seam is so the rim wouldn’t screw on right. Never heard of that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27106335 - 12/24/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I sometimes get mason jars where the dimensions make no sense to differ. Normally I can fit 10 no problem in my Presto 23, sometimes I have difficulties fitting in the last three laying down across the bottom seven. It's very, very odd.

I can switch out the jars from the same flat and throw another one in and they'll form a triangle but go back to the one I had prior? No dice. No grain in the threads, rings tightened. It doesn't happen often but it does happen and it weirds me out.

I bulk grow using jars only so I usually have a few hundred on the go and a few hundred clean waiting around. Sometimes I do run across a weak jar that breaks when I smack it with my hand for a shake but if 1 in 400 does that I'm not worried.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones] * 1
    #27106414 - 12/24/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

If you want nice jars and lids check uline. Clear jars, no bumps and all that labeling stuff. (You can get the 'ball' ones too)

Their plastic lids are super sturdy too. Pay a little for shipping but I've not seen nicer jars.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27106418 - 12/24/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Found a Shop now with "decent" prices for Ball Mason jars, but they still don't have the two-parts-lid, just a usual screw-lid in one part.

For 500ml 2€, für 750 3€ - still hurts.
Bought now two of both, just to look how they fit in my Presto which arrives from the US next week as it seems.
If they fit well and I can use the space good to stack them and I am also satisfied with the jars itself, I'll think I just pay the money and go for a bigger amount of these jars - Then I shoud have like everything all I'll need in close future in good quality or a decent amount.

Also bought 25 800ml+ jam/jelly jars with lid, they are just around 0.80euro and I'll have enough jars for the next weeks - They work, but they are just okay, the lid is shit and they break easily.


Europe feels like third wold while doing this hobby..very sad..

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Damnit, had hope they maybe ship for a decent price to europe - But no chance, they don't even ship to europe. :confused:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
    #27106433 - 12/24/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I order jars when I find them on sale. ..
Unfortunately, that means the seller is often just chucking them in a box with zero packaging.
Last two orders each had one jar smashed to bits, but the rest held up okay.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
    #27106463 - 12/24/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Schemenhaft said:
Found a Shop now with "decent" prices for Ball Mason jars, but they still don't have the two-parts-lid, just a usual screw-lid in one part.

For 500ml 2€, für 750 3€ - still hurts.
Bought now two of both, just to look how they fit in my Presto which arrives from the US next week as it seems.
If they fit well and I can use the space good to stack them and I am also satisfied with the jars itself, I'll think I just pay the money and go for a bigger amount of these jars - Then I shoud have like everything all I'll need in close future in good quality or a decent amount.

Also bought 25 800ml+ jam/jelly jars with lid, they are just around 0.80euro and I'll have enough jars for the next weeks - They work, but they are just okay, the lid is shit and they break easily.


Europe feels like third wold while doing this hobby..very sad..

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@filthyknees

Damnit, had hope they maybe ship for a decent price to europe - But no chance, they don't even ship to europe. :confused:




Don't trip about the cost. I had to pay 3x price for a presto during Covid (in the US). Just got to bite the bullet. If you take proper care of your jars they will return the investment in a run or 2.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27106475 - 12/24/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

you guys in the US don't have access to pickle type jars? I mean without the pickles. I get them cheap locally at a chinese mall.

these:


Way easier to work with than any 2 pieces jar.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27106499 - 12/24/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Schemenhaft said:
Found a Shop now with "decent" prices for Ball Mason jars, but they still don't have the two-parts-lid, just a usual screw-lid in one part.

For 500ml 2€, für 750 3€ - still hurts.
Bought now two of both, just to look how they fit in my Presto which arrives from the US next week as it seems.
If they fit well and I can use the space good to stack them and I am also satisfied with the jars itself, I'll think I just pay the money and go for a bigger amount of these jars - Then I shoud have like everything all I'll need in close future in good quality or a decent amount.

Also bought 25 800ml+ jam/jelly jars with lid, they are just around 0.80euro and I'll have enough jars for the next weeks - They work, but they are just okay, the lid is shit and they break easily.


Europe feels like third wold while doing this hobby..very sad..

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@filthyknees

Damnit, had hope they maybe ship for a decent price to europe - But no chance, they don't even ship to europe. :confused:




Don't trip about the cost. I had to pay 3x price for a presto during Covid (in the US). Just got to bite the bullet. If you take proper care of your jars they will return the investment in a run or 2.





Same here with the PC, payed around 200€ for the Presto 23qt just because they don't sell something similar in europe.
80€ for the PC, 120 for shipping, duty etc.

But jars are not just 3x or something..The mason jars 1qt are sold for around 8-10$/12er set.
The 1qt jars here from mason ball or something similar are sold for around 5-7€ whats like the same price I need to pay in the US for 12 of them.
I know they'll last long, but a price which is 8-10 times of the basic-price..thats not reasonable and in my current situation the 200€ for the PC was a huge amount of money for me in this hobby.

Maybe I'll go in the next months for the jars but spent all in all over 400€ this month now for  restarting, need to take a break of buying stuff now if its that expensive.


@Josex I use the same ones currently and for the next time, hope they'll fit well in the Presto PC and dont waste space.
Do u like their lids? I don't like it that they fully open that easy with just a 1/8 twist


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #27106503 - 12/24/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

quick question :smile:

i always incubate from MS LC jar....

after 3-4 months when the jar is close to empty i take a syringe from it to another new honeywater jar..... was never sure if potency or quantity of flushes getting bader/weaker like this?

better take always new spores from a print? sorry for shitty english

was looking for a multiply LC answer but didnt found anything facts....

merry christmas


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
    #27106505 - 12/24/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Schemenhaft said:
Quote:

CocaineBuffet said:
Quote:

Schemenhaft said:
Found a Shop now with "decent" prices for Ball Mason jars, but they still don't have the two-parts-lid, just a usual screw-lid in one part.

For 500ml 2€, für 750 3€ - still hurts.
Bought now two of both, just to look how they fit in my Presto which arrives from the US next week as it seems.
If they fit well and I can use the space good to stack them and I am also satisfied with the jars itself, I'll think I just pay the money and go for a bigger amount of these jars - Then I shoud have like everything all I'll need in close future in good quality or a decent amount.

Also bought 25 800ml+ jam/jelly jars with lid, they are just around 0.80euro and I'll have enough jars for the next weeks - They work, but they are just okay, the lid is shit and they break easily.


Europe feels like third wold while doing this hobby..very sad..

-______________

@filthyknees

Damnit, had hope they maybe ship for a decent price to europe - But no chance, they don't even ship to europe. :confused:




Don't trip about the cost. I had to pay 3x price for a presto during Covid (in the US). Just got to bite the bullet. If you take proper care of your jars they will return the investment in a run or 2.





Same here with the PC, payed around 200€ for the Presto 23qt just because they don't sell something similar in europe.
80€ for the PC, 120 for shipping, duty etc.

But jars are not just 3x or something..The mason jars 1qt are sold for around 8-10$/12er set.
The 1qt jars here from mason ball or something similar are sold for around 5-7€ whats like the same price I need to pay in the US for 12 of them.
I know they'll last long, but a price which is 8-10 times of the basic-price..thats not reasonable and in my current situation the 200€ for the PC was a huge amount of money for me in this hobby.

Maybe I'll go in the next months for the jars but spent all in all over 400€ this month now for  restarting, need to take a break of buying stuff now if its that expensive.


@Josex I use the same ones currently and for the next time, hope they'll fit well in the Presto PC and dont waste space.
Do u like their lids? I don't like it that they fully open that easy with just a 1/8 twist




Like Josex said pickle jars work, also if empty jars are too expensive look at pasta sauce jars.

Edit: I bought a 23qt Presto for 75$ and during the pandemic I paid about $300 dollars. Its just a time we are living in because everyone and their mom decide they want to attempt pickling for a month.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27106510 - 12/24/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Hello Everyone!

Myco newbie here, having great success with agar and inoculation with all the knowledge on here.

I'm getting ready to throw my spawn to substrate but I have a couple of substrate/ tub questions.

-I have read a lot of substrate preparation posts but most of them talk about bricks of coco... I only have loose coco coir, could I still use that? If so will I add less water... I'm a tiny bit confused...

-I'm thinking of running a 64qt modified monotub, when colonizing I know I have to duck tape the holes, and close the lid, but should I put it in a dark plastic bag until its ready to place in fruiting conditions?

Thank you all the for the guidance and help!

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27106513 - 12/24/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Schemenhaft said:


Do u like their lids? I don't like it that they fully open that easy with just a 1/8 twist




That's precisely the best part, it opens and closes so easily with a short turn and yet they have a tight af seal and are reliable as hell... love 'em.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #27106537 - 12/24/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)


They didn’t have the big jar of pickled okra at Walmart so they just gave me 4 little ones. I’ll have enough to fill the 21qt by February  :awedance:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #27106543 - 12/24/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Schemenhaft said:


Do u like their lids? I don't like it that they fully open that easy with just a 1/8 twist




That's precisely the best part, it opens and closes so easily with a short turn and yet they have a tight af seal and are reliable as hell... love 'em.




Have to mention, I flame them jars with a torch... specially underneath the lid. Pretty sure you could just sanitize them but I don't trust doing this with these.


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