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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jcm4620]
#27103516 - 12/23/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It’s definitely an art. Getting the focus on the myc with no glare over it and no identifiable reflections takes some work. Or just well placed lights really
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Phony Phone

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27103543 - 12/23/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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How do you do your prints guys. I just take out some foil, cut some strips and do them. But I see some culters laying all the prints in 1 giant foil , how does that work later on? hovering my hands above so many prints to cut them into squares would be a contam nightmare.
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Inthepit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phony Phone]
#27103556 - 12/23/20 05:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Phony Phone said: How do you do your prints guys. I just take out some foil, cut some strips and do them. But I see some culters laying all the prints in 1 giant foil , how does that work later on? hovering my hands above so many prints to cut them into squares would be a contam nightmare.
That's funny, I know huh, every time I see caps all on one sheet, no sheet!
I like OG SPORE PRINT TEK™

Edited by Inthepit (12/23/20 05:25 AM)
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Sankhara
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27103583 - 12/23/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know here we care a lot about sterility, but prints are and will be dirty. Taking a lot of care will definetively reduce contaminants, but wont get rid of them entirely.
2 weeks ago i dropped some spores on agar from a print that was not stored in any ziploc back whatsoever and that i had in my drawer. That print was taken only in a SAB without any single fuck about sterility , i didnt even put foil in the oven. I had clean growth from T0.
Was it clean? Absolutely fucking not, very far from it. But even if mold or bacteria were to appear it should be gone by t4 at most. And we shouldnt be using any agar less that t3 to begin with.
It's just my opinion though, i wouldnt use such a print for syringes and direct inoculation. But unless you have a micropore monotub (as a minimum) and open that shit in front of a flowhood you are guaranteed to get any sort of contamination in a print.
Very basic sterile tek care should be more than enough. Picking a fruit from a closed (not open air) tote and taking that to a piece of foil in the SAB
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Edited by Sankhara (12/23/20 06:17 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mtbromo] 1
#27103736 - 12/23/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mtbromo said: My jars been taking waayyy to long its annoying like 3-4 weeks
That's pretty standard for a2g.
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Mr. Mushie

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mtbromo]
#27103765 - 12/23/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Verums tek works well for me.
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ReverendMyc

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 0ptiquest]
#27103776 - 12/23/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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0ptiquest said: This is my first attempt with oysters using straw. All pictures are 24 hours difference except the last one that is 36 hours. I like how they look but they are so small 

I second that, mushhead! Nice grow Optiquest, but what are the containers? They look like 4 liter water bottles. Do you have a tek for that?
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Phony Phone

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27103787 - 12/23/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Inthepit said:
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Phony Phone said: How do you do your prints guys. I just take out some foil, cut some strips and do them. But I see some culters laying all the prints in 1 giant foil , how does that work later on? hovering my hands above so many prints to cut them into squares would be a contam nightmare.
That's funny, I know huh, every time I see caps all on one sheet, no sheet!
I like OG SPORE PRINT TEK™

This gotta be the best method for large amount of prints however bod's is the most simple especially if you have a low amount of prints.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ReverendMyc]
#27103826 - 12/23/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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MuthaFudpucker said:
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0ptiquest said: This is my first attempt with oysters using straw. All pictures are 24 hours difference except the last one that is 36 hours. I like how they look but they are so small 
  
I second that, mushhead! Nice grow Optiquest, but what are the containers? They look like 4 liter water bottles. Do you have a tek for that?
I used RR straw tek, the same but using a bottle.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Mushie]
#27103840 - 12/23/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mr. Mushie said: Verums tek works well for me.
Link to the post?
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roarkell
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phony Phone]
#27103867 - 12/23/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Phony Phone said:
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Inthepit said:
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Phony Phone said: How do you do your prints guys. I just take out some foil, cut some strips and do them. But I see some culters laying all the prints in 1 giant foil , how does that work later on? hovering my hands above so many prints to cut them into squares would be a contam nightmare.
That's funny, I know huh, every time I see caps all on one sheet, no sheet!
I like OG SPORE PRINT TEK™

This gotta be the best method for large amount of prints however bod's is the most simple especially if you have a low amount of prints.
My process is a bit more involved but I feel it yeilds a far better spore print than 80% of the prints I've received... ill pre-cut 6" squares of foil and fold em on half... they get sterilized on a cookie sheet in the oven at 400* for a while... I usually forget them in there for a while... then, in the flow or an SAB, ill place 2 caps, evenly spaced on each foil. Let em do their thing for 12 to 36 hours and then remove the cap. Cover again and allow to dry for 24 hours. Once the prints are dry I go thru and flatten the foils down, cut em in half and fold the edges up. Label em properly and then send them on their way!
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Schemenhaft
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
#27103917 - 12/23/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am so damn happy, my Albino Penis Envy Revert sporeprint arrived today. Read for hours here about growing PE and friends, but not that much of information about APER.
Any first-hand tips of growing these guys? Till now just grown GT and B+ but PE and friends should be more difficult, but APER is a bit easier I’ve heard.
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starbones
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Schemenhaft]
#27104244 - 12/23/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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@Pastywhyte if you see this.
We were talking in the cult pics thread there about the grains and what the myc leaves behind. Any idea what is actually being left behind for the most part? I wonder if I could jazz things up a bit by providing more of what they do use and less of what they don't. These muda style bots are very easy to plug-and-play experiments.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones] 2
#27104253 - 12/23/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Switch from grain to bran in your bottles. When I would run bottles I would supplement with coffee or worm castings along with the rest of the bulk. Finding a good culture is key if you want success in bottles. I had a clone that did awesome in monos but hated bottles. On the other hand I had a clone that did excellent in bottles.
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starbones
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27104279 - 12/23/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck, the bran part is difficult here because I'm essentially just spawning to bulk. Mixing grain spawn with CVG then bottling it as you saw so I can take 1 PC run and get 30 bottles worth, usually averaging 300-320 wet grams over the course of three flushes.
I wonder though if I could take bran and castings, PC it like grains then inoculate it in a bottle, bust it out with a spoon then spawn it to CVG the same way by blending it. I'd like to keep the 1 PC run to make 30 bottles aspect. I need to isolate my Averys because they're all over the place, some bottles will produce just stupid good amounts of big fruits, others a billion tiny ones.
This is why I need to isolate. Good bottles.

Not so good.
 The one with a ton of tiny fruits.
I'll wait for a real gem to clone and isolate on agar then I guess I'll attempt to fuck around with bran and castings. Thanks PW
Edit: Guess I could scoop out a jar of colonized and bran castings and whip it through my grain mill but I hate using the same tool for multiple things due to cross contamination by something sneaky. Or try bags again and make gigantic bricks of bran and castings haha.
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Edited by starbones (12/23/20 02:01 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
#27104281 - 12/23/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you’re just spawning to bulk in bottles then there isn’t much else to do, other than culture work and dialing in conditions.
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starbones
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27104316 - 12/23/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah that's what I been doing with WBS but was wondering if that bran and castings mix you were mentioning would give them an increase in yield. Not that I'm hurting for yield but if the same time PCing could be spent on a better producing mix then why not eh.
Conditions with the Pasty EZ Dials have been great. Enough FAE to stave off the green without drying my fruits/sub out hard so thanks for that.
I'll snag some bran and castings and give it a shot side by side then go from there. I wonder if adding some canola seed to it for the lipid content would work as well.
I'm trying coconut oil in my CVG right now to see if it has any effect on yield or holds up contams. Most of the bottles can make it to the 3rd flush no problems but every one in maybe 40-50 goes green during the first flush. Usually ones that an errant sidepin created a big gap between the container and the substrate, no airflow there but very moist.
Juggling 30 of these tubs is a handful but fuck me sideways it's really hard to want to ever go back to normal monotubs, I love harvesting these motherfuckers just slide it out of the bottle a bit, grip the rim, slice it with a utility knife into the bin and go onto the next one.
I wish Canada Post hadn't gone to shit. My Reishi LC was supposed to be here to make bottle gifts but I went with cubensis instead using a 2L bottle as a humidity dome like you did, gifts for the friends who eat all my fuckin mushrooms anyways lol.
Thanks PW
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
#27104605 - 12/23/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does anyone have experience with the company "Max Yield Bins" products?
https://maxyieldbins.com/
I was thinking about buying one of these bins for my BFR PK tek cakes. Will it work better than SGFC?
Edited by BondVillain (12/23/20 05:39 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BondVillain] 1
#27104641 - 12/23/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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BondVillain
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
#27104650 - 12/23/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mycolorado said:

I knew that’d be the reception. Everything here is DIY!
What’s wrong with it? I have plastic tote ready but if I can spare it from drilling dozens of holes then I would do that.
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