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Yeetusdeetus



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Don’t really gotta worry about core temp and cleaning with grocery bags tho
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GypsyBastard
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27076132 - 12/06/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You guys have me really wanting to grow oysters now! I have some agaricus bisporus culture but not sure how good it is. Will likely need to playing around with them a bit, oysters would be a good project in the meantime.
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LoadedFish
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27076423 - 12/07/20 01:17 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You guys think a spent mono sub would survive a northeast USA winter buried in the woods under some hpoo? Temps would almost certainly be below freezing at some points. Gonna have to get rid of it before January so I figure why not go for it regardless tho
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fahtster
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LoadedFish] 1
#27076432 - 12/07/20 01:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Probably not but there’s only one way to find out for sure
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Phony Phone

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#27076473 - 12/07/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello mushcult. Got this yet to be 100% colonize sub where grains are still expanding to colonize it. The issue is, there is a spot where the grain mycelium has an off-bluish color on it. I read old RR posts where he claims that non 100% colonized mycelium wont bruise but this spot doesn't have the look of a mold either, just regular mycelium (It started out white too). What could cause this?
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Sankhara
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#27076555 - 12/07/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Dalcassian said: I think you can do pink oysters on coir and grains in a monotub. Same as cubes. You can nocc most things up with grain as far as I know you then just need to work out substrate and fruiting conditions for each species.
Here's a page of links to get you started https://www.shroomery.org/11327/Gourmet-Mushrooms
Thanks! yeah i saw that link but feel it complicates the grows more than they really are.
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A.k.a said: There’s a bunch of good gourmet teks. If you search my threads I made one prob 6-7 months ago about switching from cubes to gourmets. People linked all kinds of stuff.
There’s a lot of straw teks for oysters, mostly buckets, baskets, and logs.
Thanks AKA! i will take a look at them!
EDIT: I'm really going crazy, I want to find something that is as easy as cubes but dont seem to find anything.
Everything seems to need crazy FAE and outdoor conditions.
Isnt there anything that can be easily grown in a shoebox or a mono?
Forrester seemed to recommend king oysters buy i cant find any info on them.
I'm beggining to get a little lost and demotivated here
Edited by Sankhara (12/07/20 05:24 AM)
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Stipe-n Cap


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#27076617 - 12/07/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't run oysters on coir, you can but they don't perform well.
Run oysters on sawdust blocks using hardwood fuel pellets. You can supplement with bran or mix with soybean meal. The more colorful oysters like pinks tend to like things a bit warmer than tree oysters or kings, they can be run as cool as you can manage.
If you're serious about gourmets you'll need to build a GH/martha/humidified fruiting room. Tons of stuff on the forums about these things.
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Inthepit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27076715 - 12/07/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow Yeetusdeetus, I had to show my wife your avatar! Considering it's kind of a redneck show, that's hilarious!
Today I learned to put 2 or 3 wedges in a dish for T1-3ish.
ComebackKid where are youuuuuuu! 
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Sankhara said:
EDIT: I'm really going crazy, I want to find something that is as easy as cubes but dont seem to find anything.
Everything seems to need crazy FAE and outdoor conditions.
Isn't there anything that can be easily grown in a shoebox or a mono?
Forrester seemed to recommend king oysters buy i cant find any info on them.
I'm beginning to get a little lost and demotivated here 
I know I've been trying the easy man's way too. I suppose here's what you don't do...LOL King Oyster Grow Log - A noob's journal
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GypsyBastard
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#27076755 - 12/07/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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It does seem a bit like throwing cube spores at any given sub will result in at least some fruits but gourmets take it personal of you look at them wrong. The only attempt I've made at oysters was a premade kit and while we all know the issues with those it was a utter and complete failure. Even buttons have been finicky. But I literally forgotten cubes existed and found them a month or 2 later still doing their thing.
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Stipe-n Cap


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27076804 - 12/07/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just check out RRs let's grow mushrooms series. He shows you how to make supplemented sawdust bags. Just noc up with grain master and place in a Martha when ready.
Watch out for the spores though, they're not like cube spores, not good for breathing.
No need for Tyvek, bags seal just fine without. Simply wrapping the bag around on itself works just as well.
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Sankhara
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27076839 - 12/07/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Inthepit said: I know I've been trying the easy man's way too. I suppose here's what you don't do...LOL King Oyster Grow Log - A noob's journal
Yeah i watched it while searching! It was sad finding out you didnt get to grow nothing.
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p9hu7 said: If you're serious about gourmets you'll need to build a GH/martha/humidified fruiting room. Tons of stuff on the forums about these things.
I just wanted to grow them for myself actually. Building a martha would bee waaay too much for my needs.
I thought of a bucket tek, but i dont known if leaving it inside and occasionally misting it would be enough. And if i can even grow them year round.
Thanks for sharing the video as well!
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GypsyBastard said: I literally forgotten cubes existed and found them a month or 2 later still doing their thing.
Its incredible how resilient cubes are
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Stipe-n Cap


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#27076851 - 12/07/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can grow in straw buckets, no problem. Youtube is full of how to videos on them.
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Yeetusdeetus



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#27076966 - 12/07/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Unless you live in a desert oysters grow just about anywhere even without added humidity. I just throw my spent grocery bag subs under my front porch and I’ll find huge ass fruits all the time.
Depending on your climate you might be able to grow them outside year round. I mainly run ostreatus but last summer I did some pulmonarius and they’re basically the same. Pulmanarius just prefers to fruit in warmer weather whereas ostreatus likes cooler temps like 50ish to 75ish fahrenheit
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Sankhara
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27076974 - 12/07/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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p9hu7 said: You can grow in straw buckets, no problem. Youtube is full of how to videos on them.
I thought they didnt fruit unless one misted all day round! I will go with that route then!
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Yeetusdeetus said: Unless you live in a desert oysters grow just about anywhere even without added humidity. I just throw my spent grocery bag subs under my front porch and I’ll find huge ass fruits all the time.
Depending on your climate you might be able to grow them outside year round. I mainly run ostreatus but last summer I did some pulmonarius and they’re basically the same. Pulmanarius just prefers to fruit in warmer weather whereas ostreatus likes cooler temps like 50ish to 75ish fahrenheit
Thats interesting... I thought they were not very resilient in seasons like summer or winter.
I'll go with a bucket TEK then! What species do you recommend better for summer and the rest of the year?
Should ostreatus and pulmonarius cut it?
Thanks for all the advice people! You are amazing
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GypsyBastard
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27076979 - 12/07/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I definitely will want ostreatus then. I need to run the PC today anyway, might as well get some stuff together for oysters.
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Yeetusdeetus



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27076999 - 12/07/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I should’ve mentioned that the area where I live is technically classified as a temperate rainforest, so the rh can get up to around 60 and almost 70 in the warmer months so ymmv.
I think if you set a sprinkler timer on your hose for dry days you could just water them that way. Just get the caps wet, let it evaporate, rinse repeat. It’d need dialing in of course, but it’d easier than setting up a Martha if you’re not looking to get max be and just feed your family a couple days a week.
There are over 200 species in the pleurotus genus so if I was you I’d just try to find one that appeals to you and does good in your temp range. Most people just run ostreatus and pulmonarius because they’re less finicky than most of the others I believe and they’re very aggressive.
A generous member is sending me a culture of pleurotus nebrodensis pretty soon and I’m pretty excited to try it out. It’s an endangered species that grows on limestone in Sicily
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27077065 - 12/07/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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How advisable is it to fruit king Oyster, pink and pearl oyster in the same temperature
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Stipe-n Cap


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smalltalk_canceled said: How advisable is it to fruit king Oyster, pink and pearl oyster in the same temperature
Pearl and king, yes. Pink, no. Place a clear plastic bag around the bucket for a FC, the bucket will have enough moisture in it already usually, mist if needed.
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Yeetusdeetus



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I’m far from an expert on oysters but iirc kings tend to prefer cooler temps compared to pinks, but pearls have a similar preferred temp range. You could technically do it I guess but the mushrooms would probably be pretty meh. You’d also have to figure out how you’d get enough fae for the pearls while keeping the CO2 higher for the kings if you wanted those meatier stems. I’ve seen some farms just top fruit kings in their oyster rooms and have the sides of the bags up to keep air a little more stagnant
If you really wanted to try it though I’d look for a good culture from an establish spawn producer. When I ordered my PoHu oyster spawn from field and forest I got a catalogue and it had a ton of of different shiitake varieties (or strains?) that had different preferred fruiting temps
You’d probably get better tips from the gourmet general cult thread than me though lol
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24417510/fpart/1/vc/1
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#27077132 - 12/07/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can grow them side by side, this isn't an issue, especially considering he's going to use buckets. Somehow I doubt that kings will perform well in buckets though. ...but yeah, gourmet forum is more suitable for discussion.
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