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mushhead
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#27068711 - 12/02/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Better safe than very sorry." is the term I live by.
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Culliganman360
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushhead]
#27068715 - 12/02/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’ve ruined 4 pc’s on my propane burners.. Lol 1 blew half way threw cooking .
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Sankhara
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Can somebody help me understand why low nutrient agar is considered 1% when people are getring great mycelium growth wit LC at 0.1% LME?
Would there be any benefit of going that low? Like for example, contaminations?
I've always done 2% but i'm curious as to why i do what i do
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#27068743 - 12/02/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it has to do with agar being a 2 dimensional media. The mycelium doesn't have access to all of the nutrition in the agar as it does in the nutrient water.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#27068763 - 12/02/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said:

If you have to ask maybe you shouldn't. If you have any sense at all you should be fine. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out how not to ruin a presto with propane burners
Holy shit in completely forgot I own one of those until I saw that pic. You guys rock also, thanks for all the info. It's why I love this place! 🍄💚
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blo0mz
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: GypsyBastard]
#27068774 - 12/02/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apologize for potato quality in advance
I spawned to shoebox 10 days ago, surface not colonized fully but I'm getting primordia / small pins with brown at the top.
Should I keep the lid on the shoebox for a while longer and let the surface colonize fully or just crack the lid at this point?
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mushhead
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: blo0mz]
#27068778 - 12/02/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You have a bacteria or mold in there preventing proper growth. I bet those fruits come out long, skinny, and spear shapped.
EDIT: Perhaps I should have asked if it was cased or anything before responding so negatively. Is it cased?
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blo0mz
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushhead]
#27068785 - 12/02/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushhead said: You have a bacteria or mold in there preventing proper growth. I bet those fruits come out long, skinny, and spear shapped.
EDIT: Perhaps I should have asked if it was cased or anything before responding so negatively. Is it cased?
Yeah, all coco coir
Edited by blo0mz (12/02/20 06:34 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: blo0mz]
#27068788 - 12/02/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep just keep the lid on it at this point, I do have a hunch that its contaminated though so be on the look out.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushhead]
#27068816 - 12/02/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any of you doing the WBS prep in jar stuff and having good times with it? Seems like far more work than it saves.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
#27068833 - 12/02/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Should I spawn this or top fruit it? I feel like it's bacterial.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#27068998 - 12/02/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said:

If you have to ask maybe you shouldn't. If you have any sense at all you should be fine. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out how not to ruin a presto with propane burners

I literally only run mine inside/on the stove when running agar(just for the ease of it) but 5months later my pc is just fine other than a heavy bottom coat of soot every now and then! And that's only due to a 10 year old/recycled propane burner!
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Mtbromo
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum]
#27069023 - 12/02/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yesum said: At least a 20lb cylinder. Little green camping ones are no good for running a PC. I wouldn't think. All my grills are fitted for 20lb. Cylinders
Go old school and try PCing on a camp fire to save $$$ 💪
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mtbromo]
#27069175 - 12/03/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Went to put my RW LC's on WBS, got prepped blah blah. LC is crystal clear, nice looking growth in it.
First 18g on a 50, can't suck up fucking nothing, stopped up immediately. Swap out needle and syringe for another thinking I may have bent the tip or got a chunk of SHIP stuck in it. Same. What the fuck I think. Examine the needle coming out of the LC, massive fucking booger blob.
Start over on the 2nd jar. Same.
I've never had a problem like this before. I've made an used enough LC to float me along and then some. Fuckin gross shit I've never run into before.
I did say fuck it yolo and poured a dozen jars expecting to toss them or at the very least top fruit them to get my clone. Never had this happen before.
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sh4d0ws
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
#27069211 - 12/03/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never use needles anymore, that is the reason I stopped actually...always getting clogged to the point I could barely use them.
If anything I have less contam problems since I started pouring instead.
You may find pouring to work better 
If you are assuming that it was contaminated because of how thick it was, that might not be the case but it could be.
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Culliganman360 said: I’ve ruined 4 pc’s on my propane burners.. Lol 1 blew half way threw cooking .
How exactly did they get ruined? Did all 4 fail in the same manner? Warped bottom? Too much heat? I've been running a presto and 921 on propane for 6 months and both still look brand new. Seeing this I'd like to know more on why PC's fail on propane burners.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mcnugget]
#27069281 - 12/03/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Question for the pros!
Which will produce more, one 8 wbs quart 50Qt mono tub OR 8 shoebox tubs with 1Qt in each?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mtbromo]
#27069289 - 12/03/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not a pro, if you are worried about output use a lower spawn ratio...
Maybe more surface area would give you more yield in the first flushes which could lead to higher yield if it contaminates after the third flush (shouldnt with clean spawn unless its too hot). But shoeboxes could lead to higher yield if one of the jars is contaminated.
Eventually they should both give the same yield if it doesnt contaminate
You do the math, you choose how much risk you wanna take. I dont think nobody but you could have a definitive answer to a personal decision
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mcnugget] 1
#27069319 - 12/03/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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mcnugget said:
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Culliganman360 said: I’ve ruined 4 pc’s on my propane burners.. Lol 1 blew half way threw cooking .
How exactly did they get ruined? Did all 4 fail in the same manner? Warped bottom? Too much heat? I've been running a presto and 921 on propane for 6 months and both still look brand new. Seeing this I'd like to know more on why PC's fail on propane burners.
Operator error
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mcnugget] 1
#27069323 - 12/03/20 05:31 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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mcnugget said:
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Culliganman360 said: I’ve ruined 4 pc’s on my propane burners.. Lol 1 blew half way threw cooking .
How exactly did they get ruined? Did all 4 fail in the same manner? Warped bottom? Too much heat? I've been running a presto and 921 on propane for 6 months and both still look brand new. Seeing this I'd like to know more on why PC's fail on propane burners.
On page six of the manual for the induction version of the 21q says that they recommend it not be used on propane because too much heat can soften the metal. The manual also specifically mentions that you shouldn’t use the pc to sterilize mushroom substrate/spawn on pg 4 
https://www.gopresto.com/uploads/01784_4033_014A_Eng_Web_instr.pdf
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